Commander Shepard is Female

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darthzew said:
The first and most obvious reason I can give, is that Jennifer Hale is a better voice actor than Mark Meer. She can lend a much stronger humanity and flexibility to her portrayal than Meer ever could. Sure, male Shepard sounds great when he's making heroic lines or threatening people, but he just doesn't cut it on the human side of things. Jennifer Hale pulls off both and shines doing it.
I have to disagree. I think she sounded bored most of the time. Whereas, as you said, Mr. Meer has those really great moments with the heroic or threatening lines. But everything I heard playing as a female Shepard just made me think "Man, that voice actor must be thinking of a million other things they'd rather be doing right now."
 

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MasochisticMuse said:
Just to clear something up - in the Shepard/Jacob thing, there are a number of options for what you can "share" with Jacob about yourself (either you're lonely, you have survivor guilt, or you feel burdened by command), or you can choose a neutral option and not share any emotions at all (either tell him it's none of his business or just say nothing)- the scene is still defined by the character and isn't any different from any other the chat options throughout the game. There is still choice, and if you don't want to share anything, you don't have to. Also the scene is very brief. At no point does Shepard become a "gushing ball of emotions".

I suggest you play as female Shepard. I played as my own gender the first time around, but then switched to the other because it's a whole nother part of the game. Why buy a game if you're only going to play half of it?
Gushing ball of emotions was hyperbole. Choosing a different gender isn't another whole game, because everything would play out the same way. Really, the only difference would be the looks and the voice and the fact that I can now only romance guys. It's not a whole 'nother game, it just opens up a few different options. Nothing besides who you can romance is gender specific.
 

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DominicxD said:
We've already established that the Male Shepard is cannon because he appears in the trailers.

It's not like it matters anyway, the choices in the game are yours to make.
-_- There is no Canon on this... The trailers are NOT CANONS

The novels are, the comics books are, and both thosue medium never identify the gender of Shepards...
In the comic book there is even a character pointing out that the corpse of Shepards was such bad state after his/her death that they could not identify the gender from sight
 

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reg42 said:
I didn't read the whole thing, because you lost me when you said Jennifer Hale is a better voice actor. Both actors are very bland in the Mass Effect games; it's quite astonishing really, because the other actors are very good. I dunno, it's almost like the Shepards are trying to be bland.
I have to agree, I didn't find either voice particularly good.
 

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Talvrae said:
DominicxD said:
We've already established that the Male Shepard is cannon because he appears in the trailers.

It's not like it matters anyway, the choices in the game are yours to make.
-_- There is no Canon on this... The trailers are NOT CANONS

The novels are, the comics books are, and both thosue medium never identify the gender of Shepards...
In the comic book there is even a character pointing out that the corpse of Shepards was such bad state after his/her death that they could not identify the gender from sight
Oh I see, so everything that you could possibly scrounge a few points out of to back up your point is cannon but the big fuck off "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GAME" advertisment which also proves you wrong is not cannon?
 

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DarthInfernus said:
You're not enough of a BioWare fanboy! That "minor" shopkeeper was Gorim, your right hand as a Dwarven noble origin. He also played Oghren.

In Mass Effect 2 he played the major role of Grunt, and the minor roles of Wilson (the mole in the first Cerberus facility), Vido Santiago (the Blue Suns leader in Zaeed's loyalty mission), and one of your crew members leading up to Joker's cockpit. His voice is instantly recognizable.
Actually, I never played either of the Dwarven stories. I'm currently on my third playthrough (I took a break because I had other games to play like Final Fantasy XIII, Red Dead Redemption, and I just recently got a friend of mine to lend me The Orange Box). In those three playthroughs, I did the Human Noble, Daylish Elf, and the Magi origins.

You know, I never recognized him as Oghren, I suppose because he gritted it out so much to play off the drunken Dwarf.

Again, I didn't recognize him as Grunt. I guess I just never thought much on it, but it adds up now that you mention it.

I mentioned Wilson.

I never played Zaeed's missions (I lack LIVE, long story, don't ask).

And that crew member with his voice is quite easy to miss.

It's true, I'm not the most Bioware fanboy... fanboy... thing (shut up!), but I think I'm fairly good considering I just played my first Bioware game like a year ago (Mass Effect 1)
 

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godofallu said:
Just the idea of a female Shepard pisses me off, but maybe that's because I read the books.
I also have read the books... there is no mention of the gender of Shepards in them... so it's not that
 

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McNinja said:
Let's go over this.

darthzew said:
Or at least should be. Allow me to explain.

Slight spoilers ahead.
No.
The first and most obvious reason I can give, is that Jennifer Hale is a better voice actor than Mark Meer. She can lend a much stronger humanity and flexibility to her portrayal than Meer ever could. Sure, male Shepard sounds great when he's making heroic lines or threatening people, but he just doesn't cut it on the human side of things. Jennifer Hale pulls off both and shines doing it.

She's probably the best voice actor of all time. Look her up if you want to see what all she's done. It's an impressive list.
I actually never cared much. I'm a male, so I preferred male Shepard.
The second reason is because of the romance with Jacob Taylor in Mass Effect 2. If you get into that, Jacob asks Shepard to share her problems. There are a couple of possible answers, but each of them lend a humanity to the Shepard character that simply isn't present anywhere else. There are other romance plots with emotion, true, but none of them give much of a glimpse into what makes the commander tick.
That's assuming someone wanted to romance Jacob in the first place, so many people don't even know about that. Also, shouldn't you already know how Shepard tick? Shepard is your character, defined by the actions you make. Female Shepard is female, and they like talking about their feelings a lot more than guys do.
I think Commander Shepard should have been female from the beginning. Yeah, Mark Vanderloo is a great model for the standard Shep, but what's there is pretty much a standard RPG cutout character.
Same goes for the female.
And on another argument entirely, I feel like Bioware should have given Jennifer Hale the spotlight here. She's done a lot for Bioware. I'm not saying Bioware did anything wrong, just that it would have cool.
How did they not? She's the female lead in an awesome game. I'm assuiming this is tied into the next one.
And finally, a female protagonist like Shepard would have gone miles for the current big-breasted Lara Croft stereotype prevalent in gaming today. She's exactly what the male character is. It's a powerful argument that video games aren't the sexist things that some people seem to think they are.

I don't want people to think I'm complaining; I'm not. I love Mass Effect. I just think it may have turned out better if they had chosen a female face for the standard Shepard.

Anyway, please, let's discuss this.
Ok. Starting last: Then males would have just picked male Shepard instead. As many people have said, most gamers are male, and males (generally) like being badass dudes.

I don't get what you're getting at. She is the female protagonist. I do agree that if there was a female on the box art more women would be playing the game, but it would have turned off more men, and men are the vast majority of gamers.

female Shepard is exactly what the male character is, because she quite literally is. The same lines, same actions, everything. It all boils down to who is playing, and as I said before, men wouldn't care, they'd just choose a guy. Most of us, anyway.
Ummm what you said. Actually, exactly what you said. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
 

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DominicxD said:
Talvrae said:
DominicxD said:
We've already established that the Male Shepard is cannon because he appears in the trailers.

It's not like it matters anyway, the choices in the game are yours to make.
-_- There is no Canon on this... The trailers are NOT CANONS

The novels are, the comics books are, and both thosue medium never identify the gender of Shepards...
In the comic book there is even a character pointing out that the corpse of Shepards was such bad state after his/her death that they could not identify the gender from sight
Oh I see, so everything that you could possibly scrounge a few points out of to back up your point is cannon but the big fuck off "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GAME" advertisment which also proves you wrong is not cannon?
The story of Shepards is our Story, we decide what is canon for ourselves.. there is no fofficial canon cause Drew Kapinky wanted that this way... The comics books and novel dont affect or very little Shepards story... It dont affect how the game play out
 

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Tell me this: Do you want Shephard to CRY whenever he does something human? Hes a professional killer and soldier; Hes been through all means of hell. What do you expect?
 

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darthzew said:
She's the best voice actor of all time*.
Fixed.

Anyway. While I do love Jennifer Hale, and yeah, her voice is much better than Meer's... (One of the main problems I have with male Shepards is the voice. Especially in the first ME. ME2 he was better) I don't really think it matters, to be honest. In the game, there's nothing the female Shepard can't do that a male one can. (Well, um... excluding that Jacob is one of the absolute most boring characters in any form of media I've ever seen... Seriously, it's as if they based a character on me) I think Hale should get more credit, yes. But in the end, putting a male Shepard in the marketing is going to help BioWare the most. Though I do wish BioWare would grow a quad. (What I mean by this; Mass Effect might as well not be a trilogy. The way they incorporated the choices you made in the first game in the second game was pathetic. BioWare just has to make the game "accessible" to new people that haven't played the first game. I wish BioWare would just get freaking OVER that and tell everybody "There's a reason there's a TWO on the end, people!") Perhaps putting a female in the marketing would have helped them.
 

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My FemShepard was so much more badass than my male Shepard. Mainly coz i picked renegade actions for her and pretty much assassinated anyone who stood, sat or kneeled helplessly in my way. But the voice acting was much more genuine, i felt the evil vibes!
KILL THEM FEM-SHEPARD MUAHAHA!
 

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McNinja said:
Gushing ball of emotions was hyperbole. Choosing a different gender isn't another whole game, because everything would play out the same way. Really, the only difference would be the looks and the voice and the fact that I can now only romance guys. It's not a whole 'nother game, it just opens up a few different options. Nothing besides who you can romance is gender specific.
By not playing it through a second time you're also missing out on seeing either the renegade or paragon options (depending what you played first time). My first play through I was paragon femshep, second time through I was renegade maleshep.

If you didn't play it through a second time, you're missing out on seeing the other gender, the other faction, reaching max level and getting an achievement.

If you did play through a second time but didn't change you gender, well, I just don't see the point in that. Although maybe being a chick in real life and having to constantly play as male protagonists has desensitized me to having to change my gender.
 

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I can't stand the Male Shepard. I tried to play as him but after playing as Female Shepard for so long I just couldn't stand it. His voice was just too painful to listen to. I love my Fem!Shep and would be thrilled if they made Fem!Shep cannon over Male!Shep.
 

MortisLegio

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the 6/7 times Ive played Mass Effect I had a girl shepard

she just seemed better than the male version
 

Miumaru

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Shouldn't be Shepard. My shepard wont be in the movie. Your shepard wont be in the movie. I dont care about the director's or the writer's shepard.