Communities that ruined the game.

[omega_peaches]

So, I don't know how, but a friend on PSN and I got into a talk about MW2, and I brought up an interesting point, MW2 could have been the best Call of Duty, ever! But, the community, the ones that use the OMA noobtubes, campers, all that, is what ruined it. So, thanks to the community, MW2 MP turned out to be really mediocre.
What can the escapist think of?

 

[Johnnyallstar]

Because I rarely play online, the community rarely kills it for me. I don't judge a game based on the nitwits who play it.

 

[Konatacalypse]

Halo.

My dear God Halo.

 

[Radeonx]

I'd say Halo, but it isn't as bad as Call of Duty.
I've encountered many more 8 year old kids who scream "fag" at me in Call of Duty.

I'd also like to nominate many of the hardcore Valve fanboys.

 

[thepyrethatburns]

Half-Life 2.

Oddly, the honorable mention goes to another Valve game:
Left 4 Dead. (I can still play versus but Co-Op with randoms is to be avoided like the plague.)

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

So, I don't know how, but a friend on PSN and I got into a talk about MW2, and I brought up an interesting point, MW2 could have been the best Call of Duty, ever! But, the community, the ones that use the OMA noobtubes, campers, all that, is what ruined it. So, thanks to the community, MW2 MP turned out to be really mediocre.
What can the escapist think of?

The community may have ruined it in the sense that having obscenities randomly screamed at you tends to ruin a game, but the fact that there were broken weapons and perks, and the fact that camping was game breaking, instead of useless or a fair, valid strategy, suggests that it was the game design that was broken, not the community. I'm not one of those guys who goes around quoting Sirlin, but I do agree with him that these things aren't a problem in a well balanced game. Now the problem is finding a game that actually has the kind of balance that his book requires; most of the people who parrot it tend to forget the fact that, in Sirlin's own words, "degenerate games" aren't worth playing competitively.

 

[Accountfailed]

Starcraft 2, I liked the original Starcraft and I got into the beta, then I realized that everybody who plays starcraft multiplayer is a douchebag with no grasp on the concept of good sportmanship, then I stopped playing. I never bought the game, thanks for saving me 60 euro, Blizz!

And now we wait for the flames to roll in.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Games like MW2 that are SO mainstream and have SO many different people playing them never stood a chance.

It's not like with niche games like Disgaea which you know that if you're into it, chances are everyone you talk to who also is into it has a somewhat similar background, has enjoyed Persona and Okami and maybe even an occasional anime here and there, if not actually knows the Japanese language and has preordered the import of Disgaea 4 from Japan.

These fps games are so mainstream that people from all over the place come together into the game and obviously they won't meld as harmoniously together as my above example of like-minded fans of something.



So, no, the community didn't ruin MW2, the marketing and business-mind behind it did.

 

[Caligulove]

It always feels like Halo is waging an endless war between people trying to play the game and people intent on destroying its community by annoying every single person that's apart of it. Any shooter that could be big or possibly be competitive is always going to have people that ruin it for the people who play for fun.

 

[cryogeist]

Call of duty because the people are assholes for almost NO reason
same with halo
and in battlefield
1 DURRR KD RATIO WHAT DOES PLANT THE BOMB MEAN?!?
2 you can have a missing arm and a knife in your head and the "medic" wont heal you

 

[Carlston]

Black Ops, servers who have stupid rule like, no running, no crouching, then of course kick you even if you follow them.

Oh and getting on a server where a "clan" dork is such a bad player he Tk's one person 7 times and gets a body count of his own team around 26, who did they kick and ban? The people the clan noob tk'd.

Oh and Ultima Online. I admined on that game and never seen a group of people so trollingly hateful to the game they slaughter every person who tries to walk out of town.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

World of Warcraft. The community became so bloated and self centered that they had to create a server to keep the elitist assholes on so they wouldn't ruin it for anyone else.

It is also holding the MMO genre back from growing, because everyone will compare it to WOW. No matter how good a game is, it is always going to be compared in a negative light to a game which mechanics are about as outdated as the phonograph.

 

[Cat of Doom]

Guild wars, Emo capital of the gameing world

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Starcraft 2, I liked the original Starcraft and I got into the beta, then I realized that everybody who plays starcraft multiplayer is a douchebag with no grasp on the concept of good sportmanship, then I stopped playing. I never bought the game, thanks for saving me 60 euro, Blizz!

And now we wait for the flames to roll in.

I don't play games online, but from what I can tell just from visiting the Escapist here and hearing people whine, I think the same could be said about EVERY FUCKING GAME THAT HAS ONLINE MULTIPLAYER.
...Hence why I don't play games online. Also that's hardly Blizzards fault.

 

[Reece Stevens]

anyone here ever attempted to play metal gear online?

don't do that, the vastly widespread eleitist attitude coupled with the overload of cheaters really forced mediocre players (like myself) to basically quit the game with no hope of improvement

 

[BRMXJzjsoawk321]

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[Dreiko_v1legacy]

anyone here ever attempted to play metal gear online?

don't do that, the vastly widespread eleitist attitude coupled with the overload of cheaters really forced mediocre players (like myself) to basically quit the game with no hope of improvement

I played it back when MGS4 was new for like a month...it was great but I don't like that type of multiplayer game in general (and MGS shouldn't be about action, it's about sneaking around and long complex story) so I gave it up for fighting games and never looked back...it's sorta obsolete now...so yeah...only elitist hardcore fans would still be left on, makes sense.

 

[Zedar0]

TF2. See the Demopan thing for example. It's become more about hats and trading than actually playing for a lot of people, and whenever there are promotion items for another game, they all pay for a new hat and get a free game.

For example, the Killing Floor christmas event. If you had both games over the holidays, you'd get a pyro skin in KF and some pyro items in TF2. That brought a lot of players over, sure, but they made the game nearly unplayable. They'd go into harder games without any leveled perks (whose bonuses you need to take on the tougher enemies), buy the weapons that were practically useless for their class, etc. That can be blamed on being new, but these guys absolutely refused to listen to any advice, and kept right on hurting their teams.

The last few updates have only fed this. See: Mannconomy, Medieval update, 90% of the community hats, etc.

Edit: for clarification, I'm referring to the general playerbase portion of the community. Most of the modding community is all right, and it's really Valve's fault for not playtesting the community weapons and not bothering to restrict community hats to fit within the game's context, so I don't really blame the people who make them as much.

 

[redisforever]

Well, I quit playing games where the stupidity is everywhere. For example, Counter-strike. May be a good game, but I only play it over LAN, with my friends, so I can punch them when they're being assholes. But it's the anonymity, and as far as I know, you can't report people on Steam for being asses.