Hazy992 said:
Can't believe I'm gonna humour you but OK here we go:
chuckdm said:
Because then I couldn't use mods.
Some people don't care about mods. Next!
chuckdm said:
Because then I'd have to buy 3 $800 machines to play everything instead of 1 $800 machine and 3 free emulators.
$800?! What world do you live in because no console costs $800. Also, good luck trying to run a 360 emulator that works as good as the console on an $800 machine, which by the way the legality of is questionable
chuckdm said:
Because then I'd have to buy a separate $2,000 monitor instead of the one already attached to my laptop.
Again, what? Do you really think you need a $2000 TV (I assume that's what you mean by monitor) to play consoles? This isn't 2005 you know. My TV cost £150 (about $250) and it outputs at 1080p.
chuckdm said:
Because then I'd have to pay $10-$20 more for virtually every game.
I can buy used and sell my games when I'm done with them XP
chuckdm said:
Because then I'd be stuck with a joystick-based system instead of being able to use both a joystick AND a mouse whenever I choose.
You can use a keyboard and mouse on a console. It's personal preference anyway so it's irrelevant.
chuckdm said:
Because then I'd have to buy 3 separate controllers and learn all 3 of them instead of using a single PS2 controller, a $7 USB adapter, and custom key mappings that makes the single PS2 controller capable of controlling every emulator.
The controllers usually come with the console so you don't have to buy one. Is it really so hard to use both a PS3 controller and a 360 controller? Is that really so much of a chore?
chuckdm said:
Because then I couldn't run all of this on battery as I can now, and I couldn't play any of it when the power goes out.
Uh, what? I don't even understand what point you're trying to make.
chuckdm said:
Because then if the game is broken, as almost all are, I'd have to re-apply a patch every time I load the game rather than installing it once and being finished with it.
No you don't, you only have to install a patch when there is one, not every time you turn the console on. And are console games the only games with problems? Wait don't answer that because the answer is no
chuckdm said:
Because then I am limited by the graphical capabilities of a box with little-to-no heat dissipation instead of being able to upgrade anything and everything whenever I choose.
OK I'll sorta give you that one because the graphics are better, but let's be honest; it seems the people complaining about graphics are PC gamers.
chuckdm said:
Because then everyone wouldn't think I'm nearly as 1337 as they do now. (This is the only joke on this list. Seriously.)
HAHAHAHAAHAHAH *claps*
chuckdm said:
Because then I'd have to drop the security on my router from WPA2 a.k.a. "Cracked in 2 trillion years" to WEP a.k.a. "Cracked faster than I can make a cup of coffee."
Pretty sure my PS3 uses WPA2 or whatever it is.
First, you asked about >>>ME<<< not the gaming public at large. So yes, some people don't care about mods. Some people also ONLY play games on ONE of the current consoles, and ONLY on a 20" TV. For those people, they could certainly get a Wii and a small flat screen TV and save a whopping $100. So before I begin, good work, for a section of the public even smaller than PC enthusiasts, you have now defeated 3 of my points. Now for your other points.
The PS3 was $899 upon initial release. The initial price of the 360 was just $599 and the Wii was $299. Google it. So yeah, you're right, $1,797.00 is SO much cheaper than my laptop, and you're right, all of these consoles can emulate a PC. Oh wait...nope and nope! Of course, I could wait 3+ years after release and buy all the consoles today, then you WOULD be right. But then, at that rate, I could wait only 6 months on stable emulators too...
As to the cost of hardware, my laptop is an ASUS G72gx. It is capable of running a 360 emulator on one monitor and a Wii emulator on a secondary monitor (same size, same 1600x900 resolution as the native panel) at the same time. I got it re-certified on NewEgg for $729. This was almost 2 years ago. The only flaw is a small scratch on the lid. So yeah, PC is still cheaper unless you're one of those idiots who pays an extra $2,000 for hardware that's 10% above this. I'm not one of those idiots, but neither would I pay more money for 3 consoles that can't emulate a PC when I could just buy a PC that can emulate 3 consoles.
Next...console games are never made to work with a keyboard & mouse. Yes, some CAN, but virtually every console release is designed to work with a controller. There is a major difference between "support for" and "this is what the developers use." To experience this difference yourself, try out Deus Ex: Human Revolution on a PC. First, play with a keyboard and mouse. Then, play with a controller and a USB adapter. Notice how the game performs equally well with each control system. Now, play DXHR on your console of choice. First, use the controller for your console. Works great, right? Now try it with a keyboard & Mouse. Yeah, pretty damn awful. So, PC works well with either system, console never works well with keyboard/mouse.
Yes, every console comes with 1 controller so you can play with you, yourself, and the wall. Want to play with a friend? That'll be $79. Or you could get the knockoff that'll FUBAR sooner for $39! Now you want to play a game on another console with the same friend? Oh, well then that's another $39-$79. Repeat for each console and again for each friend. With 3 consoles and 3 (additional) controllers for each one, you just spent $351. Of course, you could just take the free included controllers from each one and USB them into your computer for $21 (assuming you didn't buy the $9 multi-port adapter) and now you can all play ANY of those games for no extra cost.
Yes, buy used games so that the fine folks at EA can tell you you don't have a valid code and you miss half the content. Don't get me wrong on this one, I agree with you, but there are MANY games now where used just isn't an option unless you want to get only half the content. Until the industry changes, used isn't always an answer. Also, while you COULD buy a used console title for $10, yanno what else works? Buy a NEW PC title from somewhere like Office Depot or Wal-Mart 1 year later for the same $10. And without missing half the content too!
No, switching between 3 different button configurations isn't MUCH of a chore, it's fairly minor. But why would I want to endure ANY chore? I'm playing a damn video game because I want to do something I enjoy. Any chore is, by definition, not enjoyable. Seems silly to pay more money for 3 separate controllers, and learn 3 of them, when just 1 of them has all the buttons I need in all the right places. Why would I want to do it any other way?
The point about battery life wasn't very cryptic so I'm not sure why you don't get it, but I'll try to explain. I had one of the re-branded PSOne's for a while, and a battery pack for it. It was great. I could literally take that (and the addon screen) and carry it around with me. When a game came out for the PSOne I didn't have to stay home. I could take it to a friend's house and play it there for up to 4 hours with a friend. It really was swell. That said, it was also expensive - another $159 for the battery, not to mention $89 for the portable screen. My laptop, on the other hand, does all that, for all 3 current consoles and PC titles, and it INCLUDES a battery at no extra charge. Now I spend more time gaming with friends, and less time gaming alone, because my 4-in-1 magical gaming box has a BATTERY and is PORTABLE. You really should give it a try!
Your point about bugs is false. All console patches are applied in real time as the game is played. Nothing in the hardware of a 360, PS3, or Wii is capable of remastering a disc on the fly, so by definition the game as it exists on the disc is forever bugged. Only by re-applying the patch, as you play it, do you not experience the bug any more. This means if you sell your game (as you seem to do) others will experience the bug you thought you patched, and if you loan it to a friend, so will they. PC games do not have this problem, mainly because you can't resell or trade them in (for the most part.) However, this also means that you don't have the minor performance hit from trying to patch a game on-the-fly. Patch once and done.
You're right, the ones complaining about graphics ARE PC gamers! Guess why? Because we're the ones who have seen the better graphics! Can't complain that you're missing something if you don't know what you're missing. This is like spending your entire life in a world where there is no sunlight, then communicating with people on a world that actually has sunlight. It's not something you can appreciate until you've acquired it, then lost it again. (Though personally I always prefer overcast weather.)
Glad you thought my one and only joke was funny.
And finally, yes, the PS3 can use WPA2. I'm actually not sure about the 360, but the Wii cannot use WPA2, and is instead locked to either WPA or WEP. The DS, even worse, only supports WEP. I also remember that my old GameCube Wifi Module ONLY supports WPA - neither WPA2 nor WEP. This, of course, means you cannot use both the GameCube and a DS on the same network at the same time.
And this is the core of the issue. Console 1 can do A, B, and C. Console 2 can do B, C, and D. Console 3 can do C, D, and E. But a PC can do everything from A-Z, a-z, 0-9, and 000000 to FFFFFF. This is why PCs are superior. It's not that we can do one thing or another. It's that we can do EVERYTHING. That level of choice and freedom - especially when it can be bought for the same price, much less cheaper - is indisputably preferable to limiting yourself for no obvious reason.