Controversial Games
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Lemme guess, it ain't fair however to murder tons of Americans as a Japanese person cause they nuked two of your cities. In war. The same war, in fact, that had the fun Pearl Harbor attack.dragonburner said:
And my God, have you ever stopped to think that maybe not the entire population of Germany was behind Hitler and his anti-semitic ways? Given the media coverage of the new movie about it, I'd have assumed more people now know about the 20 July plot [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_July_plot]. I doubt everyone in Japan was behind the government either. 'Course I'm not sure, don't know much about WW2 Japan, but it seems highly unlikely a hundred million individuals would all agree with their leader.
Quite a few Christian groups got offended by claiming that teaching children about evolution was wrong, even spawning a small handful of anti-spore websites.Anoctris said:
Quoting from one, "I created this blog to find support for and follow my progress in letting Electronic Arts know that their biggest attack on Christian values to date will not be tolerated. We can not allow the gaming industry to invade our homes and poison the minds of our children.
After all, their billions in revenue and all the advertising in the world are no match for the power of God."
Quite silly really.
i think one of the more recent games to garner controversy was probably fallout 3
the brahmin creatures were removed in the indian versions of the game
the megaton nuke was removed in the japanese version of the game [as were the chinese soliders i believe - for some bizzare reason]
and let's not forget people complaining about RE5 killing black people despite the fact the game is set in AFRICA!
At the end of the day, every game out there is going to offend SOMEONE somehow, but tough titties, if you're offended by it, dont play it, simple as that
the brahmin creatures were removed in the indian versions of the game
the megaton nuke was removed in the japanese version of the game [as were the chinese soliders i believe - for some bizzare reason]
and let's not forget people complaining about RE5 killing black people despite the fact the game is set in AFRICA!
At the end of the day, every game out there is going to offend SOMEONE somehow, but tough titties, if you're offended by it, dont play it, simple as that
And let's not forget about the Australian controversy with the names of in-game drugs!Remleiz said:
I'm absolutely amazed at the difference in popular opinion between controversial games and controversial movies. If a movie is controversial, it's something of a selling point. "Schindler's List" was controversial, and so was "Pulp Fiction". Both of them are now hallmarks of cinema.
But when we start bringing up games like "Muslim Massacre" or "Manhunt", people get nervous. Publishers get edgy. Why is that? What's the difference between watching a movie like "Inglorious Basterds" and playing a Nazi Shoot-em-up?
Events such as 911 were undoubtedly devastating to the people involved. But i have to say that people have to grow up a little, this is fun harmless humor.
" oh it's totally inappropriate and inconsiderate "
Bollocks. Everyone lose something in this world, every single second. So how about we stop making fun of cancer? AIDS? Deaths in general? No because it's funny, no matter how you try and use the victims as an excuse. It's funny. To not be able to take something and turn it into a joke simply because people start crying foul about it, that's just political correctness gone mad.
Also i have to say that those people who are talking about how offensive some games are, aren't even the true victims of the tragedies. 911 for example, every year FOX, CBS or any other major news source takes the 911 attacks and use it to justify their whining about certain games. They make everything a big deal, when it really isn't.
In fact, they are the ones who are exposing those wounds time and again by reminding everyone every single fucking year that " Hey this horrible thing happened you had better be upset about it ". They are the ones not letting anyone forget what happened and yet they start protesting when someone or something does so in jest or in the name of shits and giggles.
" oh it's totally inappropriate and inconsiderate "
Bollocks. Everyone lose something in this world, every single second. So how about we stop making fun of cancer? AIDS? Deaths in general? No because it's funny, no matter how you try and use the victims as an excuse. It's funny. To not be able to take something and turn it into a joke simply because people start crying foul about it, that's just political correctness gone mad.
Also i have to say that those people who are talking about how offensive some games are, aren't even the true victims of the tragedies. 911 for example, every year FOX, CBS or any other major news source takes the 911 attacks and use it to justify their whining about certain games. They make everything a big deal, when it really isn't.
In fact, they are the ones who are exposing those wounds time and again by reminding everyone every single fucking year that " Hey this horrible thing happened you had better be upset about it ". They are the ones not letting anyone forget what happened and yet they start protesting when someone or something does so in jest or in the name of shits and giggles.
I have said it time and time again: You can't please everybody. In this case the proper term would be "you can't not displease anyone."
To put it quite blunt, everyone can get offended by just about anything. An overly romanticised re-enactment of Normandy would offend the WW2 veteran who had to watch his squadmates get ripped apart by mortars. Apparently the fictional beings known as brahmin offend the religious Indian people. Hell, if there were ever a game about cooking delicious dinners I'm sure PETA would be bashing on that as fast as they could. Oh, wait...
My point being is that every game can be controversial if you look hard enough for the aspect of the game that makes it so. Don't you think Italian people living in New York could be offended by the stereotyping that goes on in The Darkness? You'd say it's ridiculous, and you'd be right.
Some of these controversies are so petty and meaningless that we choose to ignore them. After all, you won't be insulted by something you don't even recognise as an insult in the first place. People should stop looking for reasons to be offended. Do you think anyone would have noticed a baby allegedly babbling about 'Islam being the light' if the mother who discovered this wasn't already haunted by all the Islam paranoia that seems to be going on?
So you can't fly a plane into a building because it looks too much like 911? How about it looks like any other plane crash into a building ever? You think we might train kamikaze pilots with 360 controllers? I'm not saying we should forget about these kind of events, or start acting like it's all good. I'm saying people have to get over themselves and see that more often than not allowing someone to shoot an Iraqi person in a war game or flying a plane into a building isn't some intentional insult. It's just part of the game.
To put it quite blunt, everyone can get offended by just about anything. An overly romanticised re-enactment of Normandy would offend the WW2 veteran who had to watch his squadmates get ripped apart by mortars. Apparently the fictional beings known as brahmin offend the religious Indian people. Hell, if there were ever a game about cooking delicious dinners I'm sure PETA would be bashing on that as fast as they could. Oh, wait...
My point being is that every game can be controversial if you look hard enough for the aspect of the game that makes it so. Don't you think Italian people living in New York could be offended by the stereotyping that goes on in The Darkness? You'd say it's ridiculous, and you'd be right.
Some of these controversies are so petty and meaningless that we choose to ignore them. After all, you won't be insulted by something you don't even recognise as an insult in the first place. People should stop looking for reasons to be offended. Do you think anyone would have noticed a baby allegedly babbling about 'Islam being the light' if the mother who discovered this wasn't already haunted by all the Islam paranoia that seems to be going on?
So you can't fly a plane into a building because it looks too much like 911? How about it looks like any other plane crash into a building ever? You think we might train kamikaze pilots with 360 controllers? I'm not saying we should forget about these kind of events, or start acting like it's all good. I'm saying people have to get over themselves and see that more often than not allowing someone to shoot an Iraqi person in a war game or flying a plane into a building isn't some intentional insult. It's just part of the game.
Almost exactly what I was going to say.AfricanSwallow said:
I'm sure you'll find people who think Katamari Damacy is too icky but we can't (and shouldn't) adapt our preferences to their pathos.
I'll leave you with the wise words of HL Mencken:
"Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant."
Ok the nuke strike was after Pearl Harbor, in fact well in to the war. And of coarse not everyone was for Hitler, but if so why should they be offended by a WW2 game? Also some people against Hitler left Germany, some came to America.Zephirius said:
In fact I do believe that things can be worse than others. Now that doesn't mean ones bad. For example ET on the Atari was worse than Shaq Fu. However, Shaq Fu still sucked. Ask around and many will agree with my stance on WW2 v. 911. It is pretty clear.stompy said:
I know I said that I said I was done with this thread, but... my god, I utterly speechless about this. You think that an event that resulted in the death of roughly 70 million people [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties] should become more socially accepted in today's media than an event that caused the death of less than 10 000 people, all of the same nationality? Really?dragonburner said:
I think, a game that shows the horror of 9/11, much as most WWII games do, would be okay. My idea was a young victim of the attack, trying to escape and save others.
Also, I like how you guys say "a herioic moment" when you joined halfway through.
Also, I like how you guys say "a herioic moment" when you joined halfway through.
