Your argument, from what I gather, is basically: "All 9-11 games I've seen are offensive, so no 9-11 games should exist." I'm asking, just because a small number of the games relating to 9-11 are offensive to you, the entire subject should be taboo for developers?dragonburner said:
Unfortunate, since this is an issue worth discussing (in a global sense, not just one or two topics).Kogarian said:
I think the main one was a Poe, but it wouldn't surprise me if some had been serious.zombiebeard said:
To be frank, unless you're going to do a war game set in the time of Independence or the second war with Britain via Canada, or WWI, America historically has been the technologically advanced nation or the nation with the ability to outnumber their enemy to death (WWII - although there weapons weren't bad, they still relied on mass producting Germany to death).Syntax Error said:
So thats actually a good point despite jack thompson most of the videogame community accepted GTA:IV with open arms so controversial games are ok by most peoples standards. Also thankyou for correcting my grammer I didn't get the time too.dragonburner said:
Actually Medal of Honour: Rising Sun was developed by Americans and Japanese developers, as they say in the commentary extras in the game.Syntax Error said:
That right there is very closed minded. For one the Germans were not mass murderers those "Germans" you are talking about were members of the Nazi party and even then only high tranking soldiers even knew about the Holocaust. A German soldier in that war was no different then the Allied ones; they were all scared and killing only to survive. Second many civillians only joined the Nazi party because it provided something better than the Shit hole they were living in, and again none knew about Hitler's insane ideals.Doug said:
Well, I'm not suggesting that Americans are ignorant in the pejorative sense, but in the sense that they are simply not exposed to the world to the extent that many other developed nations are. Simple geography offers some explanation. The US has only two 'close' neighbours and your near neighbours in S. America are not exactly powerful political forces. When you combine that with the fact that the US utterly dominates its neighbours, a lack of interest in the outside world is not unexpected. It just doesn't have the immediacy that Europe and Asia enjoy. Your territory has also never been directly attacked (yes, Pearl Harbour, but Hawaii isn't very near to the continental US. Not the same psychological effect), thus a more gung-ho attitude to war pervades the cultural milieu. For the rest of the developed world, there are/were a good portion of of the populace that knew what war meant to civilians. Mainland European countries are often painted as cowards by the US (Freedom fries anyone?), but these are countries that were recently stage to the largest conflict in history (and plenty of them have suffered domestic terrorism - IRA, ETA, etc).pimppeter2 said:
Don't lecture me about the war. I know all about the Weimar Republic and Hilter's rise to power - about the treaty of Versailles, the League of Nations, the failure to act against Hilter in the Rhineland, the surrender of the Sudetenland by Britain and France, the occupation of Czechoslovakia, and all the little hints that Hilter was a danger that my country and France failed to heed because we were so eager to avoid war.Lost In The Void said:
I wonder if the reason that not more Germans resisted Hitler was out of fear? Combine that with their economy at the time and you can see why they didn't resist, even if they wanted to.Doug said:
See what I am saying is a video game about terrorism is offensive. Earlier in the post someone used 9/11 as an example. I find all acts of evil/terrorism are taboo when put in the context of "This is fun" or "This is Cool". It isn't and games like that give the wrong message.stompy said:
