Controversial God of War: Ascension Trophy To Be Renamed

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Church185

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wulf3n said:
Church185 said:
The fact that the developer changed it so quickly after this coming to light means that they too saw it as a problem.
An interesting point, and given the frequency of these "issues" I'm starting to think it's intentional. Think about all the free press they get from the "controversy".

We're just pawns in their game of media chess to increase sales.
(dons tinfoil hat)

Do you believe that this could have been thrown into the game to coincide with the release of Anita Sarkeesian's new series? I mean, sexism in games has exploded as a topic here recently. Maybe you aren't too far off with your free publicity theory...
 

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Brad Shepard said:
People need to learn to take a damn joke.
it'd help if the joke was actually funny and not a pathetic groaner on the best of days.

really though, donno which is more sad.

the original name of the trophy.

that people got pissed about it, it's God of War, your a little late to the party if you wanna whine about it being misogynistic, that's like whining about it being ultra violent (it basically pornography for violence fetishists)

or

that we're getting ANOTHER GoW game. fantastic ....
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Time and energy you're now also wasting on something that's already done.

Ultimately, it was their choice.
Yes. But they were pressured into it.

We can't just let something like this slide. First they take our stupid jokes. Then our masculine heroes. Before you know it, all of humanity's genitals will be hanging on a golden string and used to revive the corpse of Margret Thatcher.

Margret Thatcher isn't worth my genitals.
 

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Meh, saw it, and compared to the beatings that the men took in the games (Poseidon, Hercules...) it is very tame by comparison. I would say it is sexist because it is not as brutal as the men's.

Kudos for the producers for making a better joke out of the popular censorship, because now instead of hearing "bros before hoes" you will be thinking it.
 
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CaptainKarma said:
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anthony87 said:
CaptainKarma said:
^^^ But the trophy is still tasteless, yes? That's all I've ever argued.

anthony87 said:
No, you're beating the shit out of one of the Furies.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, it's safe to say it's a duck.
If it looks like a Fury, quacks like a Fury, swims like a Fury, it's safe to say it's a Fury. What's your point?
The Furies are based on women. They look like women. They're women. If they aren't women then the original achievement isn't just non-offensive, it's completely nonsensical. WHy would you say Bros Before Hos if they weren't female?
The same reason people assumed that despite Bros and Hos being plural, it was referencing one man beating up one woman. It didn't seem to cross our minds that it contextually makes absolutely no sense.
But the furies ARE female. The furies are women. This is like explaining away Loli-porn by saying they're actually 10 000 year old vampires or some shit (the Tera-Defence, as I call it). They look and act female. Historically they're considered female spirits/gods. They. Are. Female.
I'm not arguing that they're not female. In fact, I quite agree with you. What I'm saying is that "Bros before Hos" doesn't reference Kratos beating up Alecto in no way, shape or form. It just doesn't fit.
You're a fucking idiot. You're bending and flexing in response to every criticism I throw at you, you goddamn troll. You say they aren't women. Then you say they are. Then you say the achievement doesn't have anything to do with all the stuff that happens on the screen AS YOU GET the achievement. The achievement is about them.

Fuck you. And fuck anthony87. You and everyone is this thread defending the achievement are everything that is wrong with the gaming community. Do you ever wonder why Fox news can roll out its anti-gaming rants with impunity? How jack Thmopson still exists? Because games are full of immature shit like that achievement. And everytime somebody tries to clean up gaming's act you shits come flooding out of the woodwork to defend your god-given right to be immature. To be hostile to women. To completely and totally demean women.

The original achievement doesn't reflect too badly on gamers.

YOU DO.

Changing it is a tiny, trivial thing. But you have to screech and rant and rave about "free speech", "censorship", "feminazis". Shit like this:

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Because god-forbid you actually consider the implications behind what you say. Does the idea that other people have emotions terrify you so much? Are you so very scared of a little bit of introspection, of thinking about what your words mean, how they might hurt people? Bugger empathy, let's fucking quibble over why it's technically not offensive.

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Nobody called the demon a prostitute at all. The phrase "bros before hos" has never been about calling women prostitutes. Much like the author of this article, you ought to try learning what you're actually speaking about before you open your mouth.
Like this. The Fury's aren't called prostitutes. They're just presented along with a word used to describe prostitutes. Here's a hint dude: that's calling them prostitutes. Ho means prostitute. The joke is that it's bro's before hos because women are just good for sex. Because they're prostitutes.
I think I spy mod-wrath on the horizon.

These people are rightly telling you that there is no "men should team up and beat the shit out of women" message happening here(how do you get there?...). A male character takes another male characters side in an altercation/dispute, the fact that the phrase only very loosely fits the context seems to be a big part of the joke... it's funny(sorta) by virtue of being silly as much as anything else.

Does the House gif with the same phrase that people keep posting bother you?
 

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How DARE they make a small change to something so that it doesn't offend?!
THAT OFFENDS ME!
They must only listen to the people I SAY!
What is the gaming industry COMING to, when people who are slightly offended get small things changed?!

I find it funny that the people who are most outraged are the ones saying nobody should be.
 

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Skeggers said:
Come on, really? It's a little joke thrown into the trophies; it's not like the game stops after you kill the woman and displays the message on the screen surrounded by huge flames, AC/DC music and a videoreel of guys high fiving.
That would actually be pretty amazing
 

J Tyran

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One minute feminists insist they are not special snowflakes that need protection (which is right) but the next there is a huge bruhah over a pixelated angry dude killing a pixelated daemon thing and getting a meme as the achievement title.

Feminism confuses me.
 

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Father Time said:
They think it'll start a trend where things that matter will get changed to appease the easily offended.

I can see where they're coming from but as it stands now the names of the trophies are one of the least important things in the game ranking below boxart.

I am reminded of a game (Fallout I think) that had drugs in the game and they were going to give them real names (like morphine) but someone made them change the names to fake names. I think it was the publisher. That would be something worth a backlash over because having real drugs vs. fake ones does change the atmosphere of the game. Trophies ... not really.
When developers listen to their main audience, people who aren't in the main target demo get told to shut up.
So... yeah, people bitching about this can just shut up.
The developers are gonna do what they think is best for image and profit.
 

J Tyran

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Father Time said:
J Tyran said:
One minute feminists insist they are not special snowflakes that need protection (which is right) but the next there is a huge bruhah over a pixelated angry dude killing a pixelated daemon thing and getting a meme as the achievement title.

Feminism confuses me.
If the trophy was called broes before foes from the start there would be no controversy.

Kratos brutally killing women was done in God of War 2 and nobody compalined. Ever since they announced the
Kratos is pretty into equal opportunities, he murders everyone he comes across regardless of ethnicity, gender, religion and whether they are human or deity.