Controversial movies. Did they deserve the controversy?

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Cliff_m85

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What's controversial to you may not be controversial to me. Brokeback Mountain was a beautifully done movie, focusing completely on the love of the two characters rather than explanations of why they were gay (I loved how in my town people claimed it was a movie trying to 'recruit' gay people...just like how Malcolm X was a movie trying to make white people turn black). Passion of the Christ wasn't even that controversial, I just found it odd that people loved that snuff film so much.

The only movies I really saw as controversial would be "Cannibal Holocaust".
 

Beetlejooce

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The ideas portrayed in Fight Club could be considered controversial, the way they imply terrorism can be a good thing under the right circumstances, which i suppose it can be. But controversial or not, i loved that film.
 

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Samurai Goomba said:
Fight Club created some controversy by being both awesome and pretending to be a shallow movie about violence. I still hold it up was one of the best movies I've seen, however. Every era has one film that speaks to a particular group of people. Fight Club is the movie aimed directly at all the disenfranchised young men who work horrible jobs to buy crap they don't need.

It's also a pretty good (fictional) case study on the effects of social ostracism, extended periods of isolation, insomnia and insanity.
I think the controversy of Fight Club more sparked from the large number of Fight Clubs that spawned in its wake.
 

JWAN

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clockwork orange,some people think its a terrible movie because they genuinely don't like it. Like me, I wanted to sue the company so i could get my life back
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on a separate note, just because you shove gay people into a movie does not automatically make it an art film, or "good" for that matter

the only reason broke back mountain won anything was because it had 2 gay cowboys in it

same with "MILK" minus the cowboys and make it about a real person. Now, believe it or not but not everyone likes watching guys make out. I was forced to watch it in my urban studies 150 course and I have to say it was everything I expected. Penn plays a gay person and gets pity awards because he christened it an art film.
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If I re-made "Predator" and replaced Jessie "The Body" Ventura with a minority, gay, blind, mute tap dancer and released it in 100 theaters across the country some idiot would claim that it was the greatest movie about gay rights ever to hit the screen because of how the gay guy was given the biggest gun bla bla bla...

I might even give myself an award for making that person say his bad ass one liners
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the cowboys on the other hand are a pretty good football team, but I'm still a packers fan
 

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I'm gonig to have to say Scarface. The reviews either gush with praise or condemn it to hell. Frankly, I never saw the appeal in it. I just don't see the point in having gratuitous amounts of gore, largely for its own sake. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with gore, but this movie just took it to a new extreme. Also, the word "fuck" is said an average of once every thirty seconds. Again, no problem with swearing, but when it's overdone this badly it just comes across as childish, which is ironic for an 18 rated film.

Oh, by the way, I didn't make up that last statistic. "Fuck" is actually said an average of once every thirty seconds in this movie.
 

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Jumping_Over_Fences said:
Labyrinth said:
Brokeback Mountain.

I honestly don't get why people were so offended. It wasn't even that great a film.
I was more offended by Ang Lee's Hulk movie.

A Clockwork Orange was/is considered controversial, which I find very amusing. It is very anti-violence film, but people do not look at that aspect at all. They only see the sex and violence and they look at it, pretty much out of context of the film as a whole.
I think Clockwork Orange became contreversial because Stanley Kubrick banned it himself. Apparently, Kubrick was concerned about people copying the films violence so forbid it from being shown, it was't until after his death that it got re-released.

It's also not very good at all.
 

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"Gods and Generals" was considered controversial for showing more of the Confederate perspective than the Union, even though it only had a little more of the Southern view than the movie its a prequel to "Gettysburg." I also found it perplexing how some viewed it as racist even though there are constant references and even two speeches made about the evil of slavery, there is one scene where General Jackson prays with one of his slaves and then comforts him and assures him that slavery would end soon. I love the movie, it brought me closer to my father and got me interested (along with the liturary masterpiece of Bruce Catton's Army of the Potomac series) in the Civil War, a passion that continues today. It wasn't Racist, at most it was just not "PC"
 

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Beetlejooce said:
The ideas portrayed in Fight Club could be considered controversial, the way they imply terrorism can be a good thing under the right circumstances, which i suppose it can be. But controversial or not, i loved that film.
I may be wrong didn't fight club kind of imply the opposite. As the 'right leadership' you're reffering to was brad pitt/edward nortons character and we all know what that character was like.

On topic i think any person that finds a movie offensive to the extent to complaing and creating contraversy should stick to disney.
 

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Well, Passion of the Christ comes to mind...I haven't seen it and probably never will, but I remember people talking about it all the time when it first came out. I remember people protested it and did all kinds of things to get it removed.
From what I understand, the level of violence in the movie should've earned it an NC-17 rating. But Jesus couldn't get sacked with that.
And it went on to be the one of the highest grossing movies of all time.
 

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One controverital film I like to mention is Straw Dogs the subject matter and it's graphicness seem tame by today's standards (what with Saw and Hostel) but I can see why people of the time would have been shocked. There's somthing very unsetteling about seeing Dustin Hoffman kill people.

Jumping_Over_Fences said:
Labyrinth said:
Brokeback Mountain.

I honestly don't get why people were so offended. It wasn't even that great a film.
I was more offended by Ang Lee's Hulk movie.

A Clockwork Orange was/is considered controversial, which I find very amusing. It is very anti-violence film, but people do not look at that aspect at all. They only see the sex and violence and they look at it, pretty much out of context of the film as a whole.
Labyrinth said:
Jumping_Over_Fences said:
I was more offended by Ang Lee's Hulk movie.

A Clockwork Orange was/is considered controversial, which I find very amusing. It is very anti-violence film, but people do not look at that aspect at all. They only see the sex and violence and they look at it, pretty much out of context of the film as a whole.
The ending of the book is cut from the film, it changes the feel a little, but the anti-violence message is still strong

Ahh, my good droog, a horrorshow point.
I don't know what's more shameful. that you wrote the or that I understood it.
 

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Rivana said:
I seem to remember tropic thunder had some controversy due to them using the word 'retard'. I think some of the disability groups were up in arms and called for a boycott. I went to go see Tropic Thunder just to spite those people. I also thought that the "retard" joke was one of the funnier parts of the movie.


You never go full retard. Shit cracks me up every time.
People got pissed off at that? It wasn't even using it in the wrong way it was suppose to be what he was saying.
 

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LimaBravo said:
Jumping_Over_Fences said:
LimaBravo said:
28 Days Later was controversial for me because the tosser director claimed it wasnt a zombie movie, and the scriptwriter and storyboarders ripped off half a dozen much much much better zombie movies and stories to make that heap of pants that only todays emo kids could love.

People get pissed off whenever anyone challenges the status quo.

p.s. How was Watchmen controversial ?
28 Days Later had not one zombie in the entire film. Therefore, 28 Days Later is not a zombie movie. Sure it took influences from zombie movies, but that does not make it a zombie film. There was also a love story, which borrows elements from many romantic movies, but I don't think that you would call it a romantic film even though it borrows those elements.

Also, I am not even close to being emo and I love that film.
KK wiki to the rescue :-

A zombie is a creature that appears in folklore and popular culture typically as a reanimated corpse or a mindless human being.

Effectively any human eating/attacking corpse/plague victim/possesed individuals are by definition both literally and in genre zombies. I can say Halo is nothing like Doom that doesnt make it true.

No 28 Days Later doesnt take influences it takes scenes en masse.

The lead character Mark awakens into the opening scene from Day of The Triffids.
He wanders about a bit until he finds a church with baddies inside *cough* The Last Man On Earth (The original I am Legend)with Vincent Price.
Then he wanders up a tower block and finds a man and his daughter, I Spied a Pale Horse by Mark Timlim.
Black Cab I cant remember if thats I Spied A Pale Horse or '48 by James Herbert.
Tunnels blah blah blah
WHITE horse running through field Guess what book thats from.
The last half hour is dangerously close to anything made by Romero.

Boyle is lucky he wasnt sued.
Wikipedia as may of us [should] know is not the most reliable source for information. Therefore, I have decided to find another definition before I concede completely to your point. Merriam-Webster defines zombie as "a: the supernatural power that according to voodoo belief may enter into and reanimate a dead body b: a will-less and speechless human in the West Indies capable only of automatic movement who is held to have died and been supernaturally reanimated." Therefore, 28 Days Later does not fit into that criteria.

Also, I find it interesting that if you enjoyed that movie you would say it was paying homage to those films. However, you did not, so, in turn, you say it is stealing. We all do it, I mean I think of Kill Bill as an homage film, had I hated it, I would have called it unoriginal, basically what you said about 28 Days Later.
 

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UltimatheChosen said:
NDBurke said:
Anything by Michael Moore.

Yes, they're incredibly biased. CONGRATULATIONS! If only you scrutinized your own News Networks with such vigor. Just as a heads up, if you want the facts about something, read about it. Do your own research. Start with Wikipedia if you have to, and then move on from there.

Anything by Moore is meant to convince you of a certain point, not give you the raw facts.
Personally, I get the sense that a lot of Moore's stuff is a satire.
Indeed, take this clip featured in Michael Moore's Bowling For Columbine.


While biased and one-sided, in a way it's intended to be. Either that or Michael Moore is actually an idiot. You decide.
 

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Jumping_Over_Fences said:
Labyrinth said:
Brokeback Mountain.

I honestly don't get why people were so offended. It wasn't even that great a film.
I was more offended by Ang Lee's Hulk movie.

A Clockwork Orange was/is considered controversial, which I find very amusing. It is very anti-violence film, but people do not look at that aspect at all. They only see the sex and violence and they look at it, pretty much out of context of the film as a whole.
unfortunately most people knee-jerk so hard that they put a dent in their skull, and then they open their mouths without thinking, and they miss the point of a clockwork orange completly. Which is less anti violence and more, you cannot force someone to believe and act as you want; they must do it on their own free will.
 

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I think there some major controversy when the evil dead movie ( 1 or 2 dunno) was released because of the ...ahm well.... the tree scene. Cant go in to details because of the fear for the mods. I dont really get why such controversy over it after all there are much weirder stuff in this world.
 

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chiggerwood said:
Jumping_Over_Fences said:
Labyrinth said:
Brokeback Mountain.

I honestly don't get why people were so offended. It wasn't even that great a film.
I was more offended by Ang Lee's Hulk movie.

A Clockwork Orange was/is considered controversial, which I find very amusing. It is very anti-violence film, but people do not look at that aspect at all. They only see the sex and violence and they look at it, pretty much out of context of the film as a whole.
unfortunately most people knee-jerk so hard that they put a dent in their skull, and then they open their mouths without thinking, and they miss the point of a clockwork orange completly. Which is less anti violence and more, you cannot force someone to believe and act as you want; they must do it on their own free will.
Very true on all accounts.
 

Cheesebob

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Not a single Quentin Tarentino film mentioned?

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