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You'd probably crash your flying car anwyays. I like this variation of the future.
 

Jabberwock xeno

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Souplex said:
You'd probably crash your flying car anwyays. I like this variation of the future.
Haha, true.

It's nice though.

A mix of classical sci fi visions of the future, reality, with a pinch of Orwell. :p

Also, HOLY SHIT, I normally don't care about a user's post count unless it's somthing intresting like below, but over TWENTY THOUSAND posts? You must have no time :p
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
 

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But where's my damn hoverboard? And everything must have lasers! It's the future! EVERYTHING has lasers!

Really though, these are indeed exciting times. We're potentially on the verge of physics-breaking things and we still have so much that we don't know.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
 

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JochemDude said:
I wonder when we're going to be playing games with our minds. I'm looking forward to that.
If Star Trek has taught us anything, it's that Virtual Reality applications come to life and try to take over your Galaxy class starship.

It has also taught us that no matter how brainy, no matter how inspired, no matter how ingenius... Children should not be on your bridge, on your Holo Deck or on your away teams.
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
People have been known to entirely fabricate memories that didn't happen unconsciously. It's not common, but it happens.
 

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Doclector said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Doclector said:
CERN effectively broke our entire established reality (or so it seems). Tell me that ain't cool.

Also, when the whole mind-reading thing was mentioned over breakfast in my uni apartment, I ran to my cupboard and wrapped tin foil around my head saying "NOT ME BRO!".
See, but doesn't quantum entanglement/teleportation effectvily also FTL?
Dunno what quantum entanglement means, but I ain't messing with teleportation. and if I do, I want something awesome to get in the pod with me instead of a fly, like a tiger or something. Or a dragon. or nathan fillion.

And hell...they broke reality, man! They achieved what a heady combination of hippy music and hallucenigenic drugs have been trying to do for years!
I'm no physcist, or know anything about quantum mechanics, but apparently some or all electrons have a "copy" electron that mirror's everything the other one does, even if they are hundreds, thousands, or more miles apart from one another.

That's quantmem entaglment.

Qnuamtum teleporation basically uses this feature to "copy" the "information" of one electron to another at faster than light speeds.

It's been done once or twice, but it destroys the orginal electron, and it can only-

HOLY SHIT LIGHTING JUST HIT OUTSIDE!

brb, gonna check the weather.
 

g3ko

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wow, the last one, about the brain image reconstruction totally blew my mind. Thank you poster
StrixMaxima said:
I look forward a future with less emphasis on the technical, and more emphasis on the human.
why not both equally?
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
this was pretty much the plot of a sg1 episode 186 12 "Collateral Damage"
SG-1 encounters the Galarans, a civilization that flourished under the umbrella of the Asgard Protected Planets Treaty, after centuries of Goa'uld domination. Due to the disengagement of the Asgard from the Milky Way, the Galarans have become concerned for their safety and developed a memory-grafting device, with which they hope to accelerate their technological development. They are eager to trade this technology with Earth in exchange for hyperdrive technology. After Mitchell's first dose of the memory-grafting device, he is accused of murder. Now the rest of the team must ally themselves with local scientists to prove his innocence.
 

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About quantum entanglement, while true that it's an already know violation of relativity as we understand it discovering neutrinos traveling faster than light is never the less a very big deal. Whereas quantum entanglement is the transmission of information instantaneously the movement of neutrinos faster than light is physical matter traveling at non-instantaneous yet faster than light speeds. To the point, this is an entirely different way in which relativity is being violated. Moreover, this discovery, if true (inordinately unlikely), is entirely out of the blue. It wasn't predicted by quantum theory and doesn't seem to be a result of quantum theory. It's not a clash to the two great pillars of modern physics, it's just relativity all-the-sudden being wrong. Even taking quantum entanglement into consideration relativity still works perfectly within itself, if that not true the significance is hard to overstate.
 

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WayOutThere said:
About quantum entanglement, while true that it's an already know violation of relativity as we understand it discovering neutrinos traveling faster than light is never the less a very big deal. Whereas quantum entanglement is the transmission of information instantaneously the movement of neutrinos faster than light is physical matter traveling at non-instantaneous yet faster than light speeds. To the point, this is an entirely different way in which relativity is being violated. Moreover, this discovery, if true (inordinately unlikely), is entirely out of the blue. It wasn't predicted by quantum theory and doesn't seem to be a result of quantum theory. It's not a clash to the two great pillars of modern physics, it's just relativity all-the-sudden being wrong. Even taking quantum entanglement into consideration relativity still works perfectly within itself, if that not true the significance is hard to overstate.
But isn't the information from entagnglment still "matter", even if at small amounts?

A electron is still a physcial thing, or at least makes up physcial things.
 

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Damn... must've been alot of porn recorded.

But aside from that, if the thoughts can be eventually discernible, then we will run into ALOT of problems involving Big Brother basically now being able to suppress thoughts that don't have anything short of "I love _______ and I will never leave _______".
 

Canadamus Prime

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Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
People have been known to entirely fabricate memories that didn't happen unconsciously. It's not common, but it happens.
That's why you'd "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable), and 2 or 3 witnesses. Guilt would then be determined based on the events depicted in the memories and the relative consistency between the 4 or 5 sets of memories.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
People have been known to entirely fabricate memories that didn't happen unconsciously. It's not common, but it happens.
That's why you'd "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable), and 2 or 3 witnesses. Guilt would then be determined based on the events depicted in the memories and the relative consistency between the 4 or 5 sets of memories.
Yeah, that would work assuming there are witnesses.

Anyways, using it off of pure memory is still ways off.
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
People have been known to entirely fabricate memories that didn't happen unconsciously. It's not common, but it happens.
That's why you'd "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable), and 2 or 3 witnesses. Guilt would then be determined based on the events depicted in the memories and the relative consistency between the 4 or 5 sets of memories.
Yeah, that would work assuming there are witnesses.

Anyways, using it off of pure memory is still ways off.
Still it's a step in that direction.
 

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SirBryghtside said:
I... doubt that last one's legit. I really doubt it.
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
People have been known to entirely fabricate memories that didn't happen unconsciously. It's not common, but it happens.
That's why you'd "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable), and 2 or 3 witnesses. Guilt would then be determined based on the events depicted in the memories and the relative consistency between the 4 or 5 sets of memories.
Ever watched minority report? :p

But if this does turn out to be true, you'd have to be willing to share the memories.
Yes I have and that wasn't at all what I was suggesting.
Theoretically if this technology got sophisticated enough then presumably only the needed memories could be recorded and extracted; without requiring any more of an invasion into a person's life then necessary.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
SirBryghtside said:
I... doubt that last one's legit. I really doubt it.
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
People have been known to entirely fabricate memories that didn't happen unconsciously. It's not common, but it happens.
That's why you'd "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable), and 2 or 3 witnesses. Guilt would then be determined based on the events depicted in the memories and the relative consistency between the 4 or 5 sets of memories.
Ever watched minority report? :p

But if this does turn out to be true, you'd have to be willing to share the memories.
Yes I have and that wasn't at all what I was suggesting.
Theoretically if this technology got sophisticated enough then presumably only the needed memories could be recorded and extracted; without requiring any more of an invasion into a person's life then necessary.
But as we have established, that could be as long as another 50 or 60 years from now.