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Vrach

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Jabberwock xeno said:
Now where is my jetpack?
You can actually get one for some 80000 dollars I believe, it's sold commercially in the UK iirc.

*Googles* yup:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/25/martin-jetpack-to-be-sold_n_476858.html
 

Canadamus Prime

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Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
SirBryghtside said:
I... doubt that last one's legit. I really doubt it.
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

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WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
People have been known to entirely fabricate memories that didn't happen unconsciously. It's not common, but it happens.
That's why you'd "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable), and 2 or 3 witnesses. Guilt would then be determined based on the events depicted in the memories and the relative consistency between the 4 or 5 sets of memories.
Ever watched minority report? :p

But if this does turn out to be true, you'd have to be willing to share the memories.
Yes I have and that wasn't at all what I was suggesting.
Theoretically if this technology got sophisticated enough then presumably only the needed memories could be recorded and extracted; without requiring any more of an invasion into a person's life then necessary.
But as we have established, that could be as long as another 50 or 60 years from now.
True true, but yesterday the entire concept was pure science fiction, today it's much more plausible.
 

Optiluiz

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Humanity is leveling up I guess... Feels good to be able to witness all these advances. I can't wait to tell my grankids: 'Oh yes, I remember back when people couldn't fly...'
 

Jabberwock xeno

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Vrach said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Now where is my jetpack?
You can actually get one for some 80000 dollars I believe, it's sold commercially in the UK iirc.

*Googles* yup:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/25/martin-jetpack-to-be-sold_n_476858.html
Let me rephrase that: Where is my efficient, non-dangerous jetpack?

canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
SirBryghtside said:
I... doubt that last one's legit. I really doubt it.
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
canadamus_prime said:
No it hasn't. It's still only the Present.
Way to ignore the actual topic :p

Seriously though, does this not excite you at all?
That was a joke, and thus you completely missed what I did there.
No no, I got the joke, I was just trying to get you to discuss the actual topic as well.
Ah I see. All right then, all joking aside. I think that mind imaging technology has good potential applications towards criminal investigation.
Agreed, but I think it will cause a ton of issues.

Personally, I see no problem with scanning someone's memory for crimes like murder and such, but there's a few issues:

- Human's brains are not perfect, we forgot things, twist our own thoughts and memories in ways we don't even realize.

- What if the crime SHOULDN'T be a crime?

- Would a person therefore be unable to "record" any memory that is of copyrighted content? What if they witness a acitivty that is illegal to record? etc

EDIT:

WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS POST COUNT?!
Are you suggesting that copyright lawyers would be insane enough to persecute people for "remembering" copyrighted material? ...actually that wouldn't surprise me. ¬_¬
Anyway, what I was merely suggesting however is that say someone was charged with a crime, to determine guilt we could download or "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable) and maybe 1 or 2 witnesses; compare them, and if they're consistent, declare the person guilty and move on to sentencing. Comparing the memories of more than one individual involved will shrink the margin for error, and not having to rely on a person's recall ability will shrink the margin for error even further. Also you can't lie if we're taking your memories directly from your brain. Also this way we can get rid of lawyers.

EDIT: My what...? Oh ha ha ha. Very funny.
People have been known to entirely fabricate memories that didn't happen unconsciously. It's not common, but it happens.
That's why you'd "record" the memories of the suspect, the victim (if applicable), and 2 or 3 witnesses. Guilt would then be determined based on the events depicted in the memories and the relative consistency between the 4 or 5 sets of memories.
Ever watched minority report? :p

But if this does turn out to be true, you'd have to be willing to share the memories.
Yes I have and that wasn't at all what I was suggesting.
Theoretically if this technology got sophisticated enough then presumably only the needed memories could be recorded and extracted; without requiring any more of an invasion into a person's life then necessary.
But as we have established, that could be as long as another 50 or 60 years from now.
True true, but yesterday the entire concept was pure science fiction, today it's much more plausible.
...I suppose so.

This is really kind of odd, when you think about it.

Must be how everybody felt when EM waves, electrocty, etc were discovered/made pratcial.

Anyways, i'm guessing we'll have human animal hybrids by the end of the month, at this rate :p

I Max95 said:
this is awesome!

except the mind reading thing, that creeps me out
What's so creepy about it?

Imagine uploading everything you've ever seen or imagined to a computer, then making a video out of it?

Or having a implant that litterally can store electronic data and convert it to memeory or vis versa.
 

g3ko

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StrixMaxima said:
g3ko said:
StrixMaxima said:
I look forward a future with less emphasis on the technical, and more emphasis on the human.
why not both equally?
Because, sadly, we humans are terrible at splitting our effort and focus.
i meant as a target, even though it's unlikely
 

I Max95

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Jabberwock xeno said:
this is awesome!

except the mind reading thing, that creeps me out
What's so creepy about it?

Imagine uploading everything you've ever seen or imagined to a computer, then making a video out of it?

Or having a implant that litterally can store electronic data and convert it to memeory or vis versa.[/quote]

i think its the whole concept of watching your thoughts as video that creeps me out

think about it, the images, sounds, and ideas within our brains only make sense within our brains, in a way we think in a language unique to the mind, something that cannot be heard or seen. so any video comprised of thought is really only a small fragment of one

also its how cerebral those images actually felt. i find it really hard to actually create any clear picture in my head, anything i imagine is blurry and unfocused, but i never notice because i know the image that im thinking of and never question what i know it looks like

i think that even a clear picture of my thoughts would look something like this, and it disturbs me that even if it were my thoughts, i wouldnt reconize it