Cop Tasers Fleeing Handcuffed Girl, Head injuries put her in vegetative state

[MahMahnator2992]

You know, I was expecting this to be a cut and dry case of a cop doing their job in a completely justified fashion. But seriously? He was right on her. If he had reached out for her shoulder instead of for his taser he could have caught her easily. Him being a lardass didn't have anything to do with it, there was no justifiable reason for him to respond that way. See, this is why cops shouldn't have tasers; they carry too much potential for abuse.

 

[Ympulse]

No real sympathy, a bunch of priors and coke/oxycontin in her system and running from the cops.
Comply with the damn cops and don't complain that you get hurt when you resist arrest.
Apparently she was involved in 2 hit and runs when this occurred....so yea drugged up and driving on the streets, good riddance.

My thoughts exactly. Shitty situation for the family involved, but an overall net gain for society. (if only just)

the officer should have consider the dangers of using the tazer in that particular situation.

With as much time to assess the situation as he had, he did damn well, imo. Open/flat area, he waited for her to get to a point where continuing pursuit for a nonleathal means of takedown would have resulted in the possibility of her getting away from him. So he escalated to less-leathal means of takedown. Tazer in the back (center mass, mind you, he didn't aim for any vital area) to stop the suspect from fleeing.

Justified use of escalation of force.

 

[TheTurtleMan]

It seems like unnecessary force at first but you have to look at it from the cop's point of view. There's some girl that is being uncooperative and refusing to go peacefully. You already cuffed her and she's still trying to make a break for it. Now you could keep chasing her down and stopping her at every attempt, or you could bust out the trusty old taser which has always worked in the past for subduing idiots.

There's no way the cop could have known the girl would fall in just the right place to bust her head up, no one could have known. There's a difference between cruelty and bad coincidence. Maybe once she recovers she'll learn a lesson about running away from the cops.

 

[51gunner]

Oh god, another one of these "HEARTLESS MONSTER COP MUNCHES ON BABY'S SKULL" threads.

People, people. She was resisting arrest, in which case the use of force is authorized, and in this case, necessary. Secondly, he used a taser; her brain injury resulted from her falling and slamming her head on the pavement afterward. If you say he should have chased her down instead, without a weapon, his only option would have been to tackle her to the ground, which would have produced the exact same result. Thirdly, it's easy to be a judgmental bastard from behind your keyboard where you can pick apart every little detail of the situation using as much time as you need. The fact is, this cop was only doing his job, and his actions fell well within established protocol.

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[DoPo]

Which is why it says in the English highway code don't swerve for any animal, instead of a dog dying a few people did.

If you really want to avoid hitting something, emergency brake, providing the people behind aren't stupidly close there should be no problem. Swerving is a stupid idea, can hit anything when you do and you lose control. Braking just means a little whiplash and maybe a few sore heads from butting things (for people no wearing seat belts).

ABS is designed for harsh braking and having a safe distance is there so if there is an emergency braking person in front it means you don't ram them.

While I applaud how well you handled the situation while 1) not being there 2) sitting comfortably in front of a screen, I can only hope that everybody else preserve the peace of mind like you did when two people suddenly jump in front of them while on the highway. Also, I hope all drivers who do see in their way, treat them like dogs and hit them, rather than risk their own safety because they all think rationally and calmly under such situations.

And I'm sure that if the girl managed to run to a street/highway and got hit by a car nobody would question why didn't the police officer stop her sooner when he had the means. Tackling/tasing her is certainly not preferable to a traffic accident.

You thoroughly debunked my two anecdotal evidence and now we must bow down to your one.

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Frankly, you come across as a bit short-sighted. Lose our sense of humour? That sounded incredibly offensive to me. You didn't seem to take injury and death seriously. Furthermore, thanks to these words you actually sounded like a little kid trying to argue. Why should I value your words when you don't mean to be taken so seriously?

 

[psijac]

A criminal is still a person and should be treated as such, not "you did bad thing now pay!". The entire country isn't "obey the law or have the snot beaten into you then charged".

Rules and regulations are there to make sure justice is served no vengeance then justice. It is cops duty to protect and serve people not protect only the good and serve ass whoopings to anybody who steps out of line.

If they step out of line warn them and if they run chase them and capture safely again, minimize accidents ... especially in a country where suing people is a constant thing that happens over every little thing.

I do sometimes think UK police are a little too soft but I rarely see American cops be anything but severe.

The cop could not have foreseen the extent of injures a taser caused the girl. A cook serves peanuts to a diner who is allergic but the diner never informed the cook. Is the cook now a sadistic murderer?

She was involved in two crash crashes where she fled the scene of the accident, with out exchanging insurance information or even stopping to check if the other parties had any injures. She was also high on drugs. How many warning do you give this person? What happens if she got into another car and killed someone? I guess we have to forgive her and let her off with another warning cause at the end of the day she is still a person

 

[emeraldrafael]

So someone ran from the police, got tasered (which is something standard and raelly, looking at the guy him landing on her probabbly would have been just as bad, cause its not like he just pegged her in the back of the head) and was injured for THEIR stupidity after they were handcuffed, and the video, im guessing OP, and the person who put up the video wants me to feel bad for her.

no, no thank you. that girl got more than she deserved, but with that kinda idiocy theres no reason for sympathy. Shes actually very lucky that she didnt make her self a threat, and has the chance to lead a somewhat normal life (assuming she wakes up and remembers the lesson).

 

[Final First]

Yeah, using the taser was unnecessary.
However, I can't feel bad for her, as she was clearly already sufficiently brain damaged to try to run from a cop after being handcuffed.

That's plain stupid to say. You face years and years in prison under barbaric conditions for something as small as drug possesion, the cop they send after you is an obese slob who can never keep up, and you say running is a weird choice?

Running is the only logical choice in that situation.

Actually the only logical choice is to not break the law, thus it's her fault.

 

[Final First]

Yeah, using the taser was unnecessary.
However, I can't feel bad for her, as she was clearly already sufficiently brain damaged to try to run from a cop after being handcuffed.

Let's replace cop with mugger. That change something? People do stupid, irrational things when they're scared. Doesn't matter who you're running from, the fight or flight response kicks in.

That police officer was a coward, she posed no public danger running away handcuffed and was clearly in grabbing range. His conduct after says it all. Instead of checking to see if she was ok, he told her to lie down - potentially worsening her obvious head injury.

Replacing a cop with a mugger in this situation is just plain stupid. If it would be a mugger the person running would be just an innocent person (I would assume) whom was being mugged. This is a person who has committed crimes so the police are attempting to save any other possible victims of a future crime by arresting her.

 

[TheFinalFantasyWolf]

I almost laughed at the cops utter laziness. He seriously just strolled behind her, bastard could have broken into a jog and caught her. What is with police and them not being able to do their fucking jobs?!

 

[Thyunda]

A criminal is still a person and should be treated as such, not "you did bad thing now pay!". The entire country isn't "obey the law or have the snot beaten into you then charged".

Rules and regulations are there to make sure justice is served no vengeance then justice. It is cops duty to protect and serve people not protect only the good and serve ass whoopings to anybody who steps out of line.

If they step out of line warn them and if they run chase them and capture safely again, minimize accidents ... especially in a country where suing people is a constant thing that happens over every little thing.

I do sometimes think UK police are a little too soft but I rarely see American cops be anything but severe.

The cop could not have foreseen the extent of injures a taser caused the girl. A cook serves peanuts to a diner who is allergic but the diner never informed the cook. Is the cook now a sadistic murderer?

She was involved in two crash crashes where she fled the scene of the accident, with out exchanging insurance information or even stopping to check if the other parties had any injures. She was also high on drugs. How many warning do you give this person? What happens if she got into another car and killed someone? I guess we have to forgive her and let her off with another warning cause at the end of the day she is still a person

He knew full well that the taser would take her down. That's why he used it. And she couldn't use her arms to break the fall, so how exactly is he excused for not realising this?

It wasn't a choice between 'tase' and 'let go'. It was a choice between 'shoot', 'tase', or 'capture'. He chose tase 'cause he's a fat bastard.

And anybody who says that she deserved it for being stupid...well. I thought we had come past that.

 

[Kanova]

Ehh, the scumbag deserved it.

 

[sketch_zeppelin]

she ran she got tased. At least he didn't shoot her. the cop did his job. it only would have been wrong if he continued to use force once she was down.

 

[kaizen2468]

I wish i hadn't watched that.

 

[Mauso88]

She is running in fear, what the fuck did these police do to her before this camera was recording? I dread to think.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

And what is the issue here? Tasers are for zapping fleeing suspects. She shouldn't run away from police, especially after being arrested already.

It's a "justified use of force" issue. Yes, a tazer is used to incapacitate a fleeing suspect, but one also has to consider the dangers involve, the threat level of the suspect, and if a safer means of capture can be utilized.

However, I agree with you. The girl shouldn't of run and it is at fault. But the other side also poses a valid, truthful point; the officer should have consider the dangers of using the tazer in that particular situation.

Right but this is mostly just an unfortunate accident. Someone could just as easily be injured severely being assisted to the ground by police after a chase. I can't speak for all police officers but I know my officers always weigh everything before making a decision, based on the protocol we have in place. Sometimes accidents happen. I don't see why everyone makes a villain out of the police, or the girl. It was just an accident.

 

[DoPo]

She is running in fear, what the fuck did these police do to her before this camera was recording? I dread to think.

She was running from the police station and they were filling in paperwork. Furthermore, she did resist arrest and slip out of he handcuffs twice before.

No, the police didn't call the Inquisition to chat with her, she was just prone to running away in the first place.

I don't know how you got that she was running in fear. Which part of the approximately one second before being tased gave it away?

 

[emeraldrafael]

She is running in fear, what the fuck did these police do to her before this camera was recording? I dread to think.

Once you're actually in a station, and they start piling on charges, tell you whats going to happen and what you can get, its not uncommon for a first reaction to be to run. hell, even when they arrest you and tell you freeze one of your first thoughts is to run.