Could America be invaded?

[Bulletinmybrain]

Been thinking of this..
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Pointing out fallacies..

1. Russia is declining in military power, they are currently weaker then the U.S immensely.

2. Even if you took out the costal base, we would could just as easily mop up any engaging fleet with our carrier strike groups. Which, we have 10 of. That are 100,000 ton. Protected by a fuck ton of ships.

3. We aren't 'bogged' down in the middle east. We are everywhere. Military bases all over the world.

4. To bad, costal wise, you're fucked. We have very large bases on both sides. (Pretty much the best place to go would be into the Caribbeans and attack Florida or Louisiana, but really no matter where you land you're fucked because you wouldn't be able to move much if any around.


I think it would take most of the world to make it to U.S shores. Once they are there we might be fucked, but as long as it is on the ocean.. You're just food for us. (Or the air. We love out airplanes. Such as our bitchin' b-2 penis enlargers and F-22's.)

That said, the best time to attack would be right about now. Seeing as it is a democrat in congress he will begin the process of ripping the military to pieces, and lighting them on fire. Plus, obama would still be screaming "LETS TALK THIS THROUGH" when they clearly want blood.

 

[x434343]

See, I loved EndWar for this. It had a viable way for the US to be invaded. Florida for the Europeans, Canada for the Ruskies.

 

[Damien the Pigeon]

There's no way it could be invaded nowadays for a simple reason (which some people have already touched on). How would an army get over to the United States? Yes, China has a huge amount of manpower, but they really don't have a way to get it over to the U.S. I guess if someone were to try to go through Mexico or Canada, it is possible, but I doubt that either of those countries want to get on America's bad side.

-the setting is on a school yard-
Obama as Kid in "I <3 the US" shirt: -looks over to Canadian leader as a child-
Obama: -he sees Canada talking with China-
Obama: -walks over when China leaves-
Obama: I saw you talking to China...
Canada: So?
Obama: -pimp slap- What were you talking about?
Canada: -gets all nervous- Uhhhh... the internet?
Obama: -knees in the groin- You letting them invade us through you?
Canada: NO! I SWEAR!
Obama: -looks over to Mexico-
Obama: Oh fuck no...
Mexico: -talking with North Korea-
Obama: -grips onto 20 cherrybombs tied together-
Obama: -throws at Mexico-
Obama: USA! USA! USA!
Russia: Obama! DETENTION! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama: Sorry...

This was very imaginative and enjoyable. However, you forgot to add Obama's "uh". Example:

"Uh...Canada. I saw you...speaking...with uh, China? Uh...what the hell?

 

[captainwalrus]

Just nuke them. Easy and cheap.

Well yea, but we shoot back.

How can you when your entire country is a bomb site? It's not about who drops the bombs on who, it's about who drops the bombs first.

Unfortunately, life is not like a JRPG. Multiple countries can make moves on the same turn.

 

[daywalker1776]

Knowing that Americans, like myself, will fight and die for their country/constitution, it would pose a grave problem. Also, we would probably implement a scorched Earth policy to delay and starve such enemy in a similar fashion to all invasions of Russia. Foreign leaders are not stupid enough to fuck with us enough to invade, and the patriot missile system, witch is partly operational at the moment could, in all likelihood, shoot down any ICBM's or high altitude bombers.

 

[grenade_shield]

I agree with what was posted just before me. I also wonder sometimes if our friends overseas understand just how gun happy we really are. My dad started buying me guns when I was like, ten, lol. Every once in a while you see somebody with a gun on their hip in the grocery store. And my state (Tennessee) just passed a law that allows us to carry guns in bars.

Guns. In bars. In Tennessee. Great fucking idea there, isn't it? No, I wouldn't really want to invade a place like this...

 

[LongAndShort]

A good plan. As long as you could keep the government adhering to the constitution, that could work. You many want to remove a few amendments though. I would recommend the 2nd and the 22nd Amendments.

I can't say I know much about the 22nd, but there's no way I'd take away the 2nd. I simply would not want to ask the people to give up the power to overthrow any government that gets out of hand. That's one of Americas biggest checks in the balance of power.

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Why would I want to get rid of the 22nd Amendment? I WANT term limits.

The problem would be striking the fine balance between allowing people guns as a matter of personal freedom and trying to limit the number of people murdered with guns. Also, just out of curiosity, what would be your stance on censorship?

It has been my experience that the better armed the public is, the fewer gun related crimes actually happen. In fact, there are places around the country that require people to own guns and their crime rates plummeted. I wish I could come up with an article about it, but I heard about it a long time ago and can't remember the names of the cities. Think about it, are you more likely to rob a store when you know the clerk behind the counter has a gun? Or are you gonna go somewhere where the population isn't so armed? People will still kill people, even if they don't have guns.

My beliefs on censorship are that it shouldn't happen. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever. The only place I think it's reasonable to stop people from saying things is in the area of "shouting fire in a crowded room." Only when it can clearly result in physical harm.

That's bullshit. America isn't any better off because it has more guns. Since the clerk behind the counter is armed it might convince the robber to simply shoot the clerk before he/she has the chance to do so in return.

What's more your fetish for guns is causing problems for the rest of the world. Mexican drug cartels go north to the USA, stock up on assault weapons and then bring 'em south to shoot at police and arm the drug war. You are the only country in the world that has this fetish guns and the more you try and defend it the more the rest of the world laughs at you.

Perhaps you should redirect your anger to the people who give the money to the drug cartels. I know it's not as sexy as hating guns, but maybe if people stopped buying drugs from the cartels they wouldn't have any money to buy guns.

Na. Why would you want to stop breaking the law to enable other people to break worse laws?

Its not that i hate guns. I like guns and hunting and shooting. I'm gonna join the army. But i believe in gun control and regulation to keep the danger low. There's nothing wrong with keeping guns out of the hands of the unpracticed, irresponsible and unstable.

And i do have a lot of hatred for drugs, drug-suppliers and drug-users. And your right, if no-one bought the drugs they wouldn't be able to buy the guns. But maybe if the guns weren't available to them in the first place they wouldn't be able to fight the police and army so effectively, who would then be able to thwart their operations and reduce the supply of drugs.

 

[asinann]

So many people seem to be obsessed with ignoring the giant, red, white, and blue nuclear fueled ban-hammer the U.S. holds. Feel like giving your country a permaban from the Earth?

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See the thing with nukes they still have electrical components so if get them with emp before the launch there unable to launch thats why they fire you fire and wait for them to landed.

America doesn't worry about nuclear missiles in launchers. They have stealth bombers that can drop a fuckton of them, or subs.

Have you seen what happen when a sub get hit with an EMP. Oh and you can guess what happen when a plane gets hit.

You've been watching too many movies. An EMP will temporarily disable the electronic components of the sub, but those systems will be reactivated in time and the sub will move again. The most critical systems in modern submarines also have non-electronic backups so things like air circulation aren't going to shut off.

As for aircraft, EMP's don't travel all the fast while modern jets do. The engines are not electronic, just the ignition systems and the controls are hydraulic. Radar and weapon guidance systems will shut down for a while, but the plane isn't going down.

And I forgot one small detail, the only country with an EMP bomb large enough to shut down more than a few city blocks is the US. The largest one WE have can only shut down a small town (maybe 20,000 people.)

actually emp of high enough magnitude will permanently destroy electronics and there a very large source of emp is a sun flare so just trigger one whilst America that side of the sun hay presto.

Other than the fact that you can't actually force the sun to do anything, and the solar flare with a big enough EMP burst to fry all the electronics permanently would also take the atmosphere off the planet, sure that plan might work. At least the radars and targeting systems would be down. The machine parts would still work though.

Knowing that Americans, like myself, will fight and die for their country/constitution, it would pose a grave problem. Also, we would probably implement a scorched Earth policy to delay and starve such enemy in a similar fashion to all invasions of Russia. Foreign leaders are not stupid enough to fuck with us enough to invade, and the patriot missile system, witch is partly operational at the moment could, in all likelihood, shoot down any ICBM's or high altitude bombers.

The P.A.T.R.I.O.T missile system isn't designed to shoot down missiles, it has a 50% success rate on missiles at best and is completely incapable of hitting an ICBM. The range on the missile is long enough to take down those bombers, but the radar system that the missile system uses doesn't track that far up so it would be a blind fire.

The P.A.C. 3 system has proven to be a failure time and again and to date has yet to hit a target (missile speed problems, the missile flies too fast for the guidance chip to calculate and redirect.)

 

[mangus]

Idunno, how're they for water?

 

[asinann]

What's more your fetish for guns is causing problems for the rest of the world. Mexican drug cartels go north to the USA, stock up on assault weapons and then bring 'em south to shoot at police and arm the drug war. You are the only country in the world that has this fetish guns and the more you try and defend it the more the rest of the world laughs at you.

Mexican drug cartels do not but their guns from shops in the US, despite what you have heard. They buy theirs from international arms dealers, the kind that equip rebels in Africa. You may have noticed that American shops do not sell anti-armour rifles or light machine guns.

That's bullshit. Why buy an AK from a Russian when you buy one up north cheaper. and these days armour piercing rounds (which can be bought in the US) make any rifle armour-piercing. Oh and you know who's supplying those arms-dealers or directly supplying those Warlords in Africa with guns? the fucking USA, UK, Russia and China.

Anti-armor rifles are not rifles with anti-armor rounds.
In warfare Armor is a groups of vehicles commonly referred to as tanks.
An anti-armor rifle would be something like an RPG-7 (not my fault those are called recoiless rifles) (which by the way is capable of damaging the treads on an M1A1, but not breaching the armor.)

And we sell our spare gear to Israel and Japan, not Africa.

 

[LongAndShort]

What's more your fetish for guns is causing problems for the rest of the world. Mexican drug cartels go north to the USA, stock up on assault weapons and then bring 'em south to shoot at police and arm the drug war. You are the only country in the world that has this fetish guns and the more you try and defend it the more the rest of the world laughs at you.

Mexican drug cartels do not but their guns from shops in the US, despite what you have heard. They buy theirs from international arms dealers, the kind that equip rebels in Africa. You may have noticed that American shops do not sell anti-armour rifles or light machine guns.

That's bullshit. Why buy an AK from a Russian when you buy one up north cheaper. and these days armour piercing rounds (which can be bought in the US) make any rifle armour-piercing. Oh and you know who's supplying those arms-dealers or directly supplying those Warlords in Africa with guns? the fucking USA, UK, Russia and China.

Anti-armor rifles are not rifles with anti-armor rounds.
In warfare Armor is a groups of vehicles commonly referred to as tanks.
An anti-armor rifle would be something like an RPG-7 (not my fault those are called recoiless rifles) (which by the way is capable of damaging the treads on an M1A1, but not breaching the armor.)

And we sell our spare gear to Israel and Japan, not Africa.

Your right, but when you wrote anti-armour rifles, i thought anti-personal-armour weapons, since that is what most anti-armour rifles have been used for since the end of world war 2 (British anti-tank rifles began being used as sniper weapons, the grandparents of modern .50 cal sniper rifles like the barret) sorry about the confusion, my fault.

You sell your shit to anybody who supports you or make deals with you, from fucking Pinochet to Eastern-European allies (like Georgia) to whatever fucking warlord in africa is running a tin-mine or gold-mine or diamond-mine and selling you shit at slave-labour prices. Not just Israel and Japan.

 

[Grampy_bone]

America could be invaded, but it would be pretty unlikely in this day and age. America could be defeated far more easily: just attack our "empire." America has economically subdued many countries across the world, if some enterprising liberator decided to free these countries from our reign our empire would quickly crumble.

For the past several years, it has appeared that China and Russia are gearing up to do exactly that. The pax americana is over and the barbarians may not sack the holy city, but they'll bloody well sack everything else.

 

[Sevre]

It can be invaded, it will take a while though, first you have to bring down intelligence,then I'd say use airstrikes and nukes then let your army invade.

 

[Mockingjay]

I'll invade America if you like.

 

[Kazturkey]

simple, fire a catalyst into America's nuclear supplies and you have destroyed America's main defense, after which you can proceed to watch as the radioactive fallout from their nuclear supplies strangles most of their armed forces, then just bomb them with nukes until there's a smoking crater shaped like America. either that or you could do the China approach and make America build up a large debt from you and then call it back from them forcing them to surrender and become part of your country

You really don't know how nuclear reactions work, or how many different stockpiles they have do you?

Shh. Don't tell him about the nuclear sub-marines that would be charged with nuking whatever country got us so there's little to no chance of getting out of a nuclear war alive.

So long as the french aren't driving the subs

/satire

But really, radar and depth charges > Your subs.

I'm not 100% sure that's really as fool proof as you might think. I'll grant you that the depth charges are scary, terrifying, and painful as a suppository, but I have faith that the best funded military on earth has figured out a way around that. At the very least, many subs would be in a good position to start letting fly at the first sign of aggression.

America - Your weapons built by the lowest builder! I doubt the Americans have hidden subs THAT close to chinese cities... you need to be within something like thirty miles of the coast to fire a nuke from a sub and the chinese are very good with patrols and such.

Its actually 7000 miles for a trident 2

Can those be launched from a sub?

 

[Rubiex3]

THE KOREANS WILL INVADE AMERICA!!!!!! THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Artheval_Pe]

Can those be launched from a sub?

Of course they can. Right now, at this precise moment, and always since the 70s, there are a bunch of Nuclear Submarines from USA, Russia, France and UK, equiped with Ballistic Missiles, just north of Norway, ready to wipe out any country from the Northern Hemisphere launching a nuke. That's called nuclear deterrence.

Europe? Are you kidding me? The only real powers are U.K, France, and Germany. The only of those that don't like us might be the french.

There's a difference between "thinking that the war in Irak was a huge and stupid mistake, and trying to stop the US from starting it" and "Not liking the Americans". Despite what Fox News might have said, USA and France are still allies and their Navies are collaborating all the time. French Rafale land on US Aircraft Carriers from time to time, etc...

France attacking the United States is just as likely as a war between Canada and Alaska, right now.
Plus, I'd be curious to see what would happen to the french fleet in the event they try to engage the US Navy Atlantic forces. The french would be vastly outnumbered, even if their ship to ship missiles have proven that they could get past US ships defenses (Remember the USS Stark ?)
But I would not put much money on the french Rubis-class submarines in a fight against a few Los-Angeles class and Virginia class

 

[Lordkeppington]

I think China could do it they have over one million men in there army and with most american troops being in iraq they could do it pretty quickly and effectively