No problem, we all make mistakes. ^.^Gorfias said:Sorry that I mis-paraphrased what I thought you meant. I consider them the big boys. They're huge. Nintendo is really not in their league business scope wise so it's something of wonder to watch them try to stay relevent. I'd heard even Sega, at the start, was a bigger company than Nintendo, better positioned to "win" back in the 1980s. But I understand your distinction, that PS4 and Xbone are relevent competition rather than, "the big boys". My bad.
Yeah, Nintendo needs to either fire their marketing person, or hire new ones. You think the advertising is bad here, in Europe they don't even attempt. They got their ads removed because it had some claims in them that weren't true, and it was removed under the grounds of false advertising. While that may seem like it sucks, that's how it's been in Europe for ages and Nintendo should have known how to word things when airing ads in Europe. But now they're not even attempting to advertise in Europe.That marketing failure is a huge problem. But I think that the PS4 and Xbone is a curse AND a blessing. Now that they're out and doing much better marketing, people are looking at Gen 8 and when they do, they find out about the Wii U, even if Nintendo failed to be the ones to give them notice. I should be receiving my bundle this week from Amazon. It was only when these two others came out that I bothered to really check out the Wii U and found it promising, at a price with games that is doable, and if it ends up a mistake, an affordable one.
Don't get your nieces and nephews a Wii Mini then because it's not built with the idea that kids destroy their consoles, although a physical console shouldn't be roughhoused with anyway, even if it's from Nintendo. For it's disc drive it has a top-loader disc tray that opens similar to the GameCube. If you wanted a cheap alternative, regular launch Wii's go from $50 to $79, support Wii Shop for Virtual Console games, and support GameCube. The Wii Mini cannot connect to the internet at all, it's actually in very small print on the box, only supports composite 480i (component will not work), and the Wii2HDMI may have a chance of working, but I've not tested that one yet. (Wii2HDMI is 3rd party peripheral)Not sure what the purpose of the mini is. I do have neices and nephews that are brutal with their gaming systems. Might be nice for them to get this cheap thing and get a bunch of older, used Wii games for them. For cheap parents who want to hook this up to their kids old but still working TV in a cramped bedroom, does it come with composite? HDMI only? Just a shame that Nintendo is wasting any valuable marketing dollars on this thing.
All in all the Wii Mini is literally the GameBoy Micro of home consoles for Nintendo, cute yes, but completely gimped and overpriced when compared to other versions of it's own brand and is just going to be a collector's item for video game collectors.
As for Nintendo dropping the Wii U, that would be a terrible idea because that's basically what SEGA did when it came to the Saturn, and many agree that the real death of SEGA was because of the 32X and the SEGA Saturn. Basically going back to the drawing board and releasing another new console very fast would result in consumers and investors not trusting Nintendo to have faith in their own product and would cause a cascade effect. That's sorta what happened with the Virtual Boy, although for all intensive purposes the Virtual Boy needed to die in a fire, which is sad because while Gunpei Yokoi did design the console, it was never supposed to have the red LED lenses and color for all the games. The games were meant to actually be in color, but Yamauchi said no and went with red LED lenses because they were cheaper. As for where I get my figures, it's usually from either Nintendo's own business reports or from some other sources. VGChartz, while convenient, actually gets many figures wrong, and are usually 500k units or more above what's actually sold. For example, on VGChartz they say that Final Fantasy XII's total sales were 5.95 million, but from Square Enix's reports the total sales were only 5.2 million (still puts the game in the top 10 best sold FF games).The portable market is a huge help to Nintendo in staying relevent. It will be interesting to see how long that keeps up, as so many (like my kids) now use their phones as an all in one.
There have been rumors that Nintendo should just stop support for the Wii U and hit the drawing board again. I think that would be home console death for the next 10 years. If they get less and less handheld help, that could be fatal.
But finally, the arrival of the PS2 was death for the Dreamcast. The arrival of the PS4 was what made me take notice, do a comparison, and actually buy a Wii u. I'll be interested in sales figures in about 3 months.
I'm checking something called vgchartz.com You? I'd be interested in other sales charting sites. Thanks.
Oh I care about the Wii U, but by Nintendo needs to keep these possible sales up if they want to, although I still think that they'll not make the 9 million unit mark by March 31st and should lower it so that they don't take a large hit in stocks because of it. Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros need to be released on time because in all honesty at this point those two games are gonna make or break the Wii U and determine if it's another GameCube or not.EDIT: PS: just checked. Looks like the Wii U is selling about 1 million consoles a quarter (5 mil. so far). I think they can survive IF they maintain about that rate, even after the introduction of the PS4/Xbone. By April we should see a trend. And then, we'll have something of an answer to the threads question as to whether or not anyone cares about the Wii U at this point.