Could Square Enix go 360 exclusive?

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omega 616

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oregondonor said:
Well, in that case, why is it unreasonable to at least expect XV to be 360 exclusive?
Ok, you own the rights to the FF, you alone decide if both consoles get it or just one. Due to extensive research you know roughly 40% will be sold on 360 and 60% on the PS3, the only thing you have to consider is the which will get you the most money.

Do you release it to one or both? It's obviously you release it to both.

I don't care how much money either company has they will not want to lose out on 60% sales, it makes no economic sense.

When you release a product you want as many people to be able use it, to make up for the amount of people who don't want it.

See what I am saying?
 

Veldt Falsetto

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Considering a whole of 3 people in the west enjoyed The Last Remnant and that was a 360 exclusive, Infinite Undiscovery wasn't well liked either and Star Wars no wait Ocean 4 The Last Hope is out on Ps3 now balling together that they earned alot of money from multiplatform FFXIII, I really don't think it's a possiblity
 

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D-Mic said:
I don't think they'd do it. They'd face the wrath of all the Sony/FFVII-XII fanboys, and God knows no one deserves that.
Correction, there is one who would deserve that, Activision

On topic: Squeenix wouldn't drop Sony because they've got such a fan base that has built themselves around Sony that those fans would drop Squeenix if they went to MS. They'd lose too much money, and we know that Squeenix doesn't want to lose a cent (see the Final Fantasy tag used to sell their games, how many total are there? Probably more than Nintendo has Marios if I'm not mistaken)
 

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misfit119 said:
Don't count on seeing Mass Effect on the Sony consoles. Bioware seems to have a huge aversion to developing on any console that's even remotely difficult and Sony programs their stuff to be pretty hard to work with. I'm actually surprised that PS3 owners even got Dragon Age since they sure as hell didn't show that version of the game at E3 when they showed it on the PC and 360. Looking at their development history I'd say it's likely they stay on the 360 and PC for the majority of their work as it seems to be how the company works.
I'm pretty sure that Bioware said that after Dragon Age they wanted to program more for the PS3, wasn't there an article on here?

EDIT http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/96396-BioWare-Will-Continue-to-Make-PS3-Games
 

irishdude

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well square has given the xbox 3 exclusive dis gen (i think) already and well jrpgs dont sell that well on the 360 in the usa, just look at the sale no.s for these games

blue dragon: http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2931&region=All

the last remnant: http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=12261&region=All

Infinite Undiscovery: http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7400&region=All

Lost Odyssey: http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7637

Star Ocean The Last Hope: http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=23447&region=All


and look at how much ff13 sold only on the ps3 in japan, nearly 2 million. so i dont think square will want to lose there fans in japan.
 

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omega 616 said:
It's a weaker argument 'cos now the ps3 has some generally popular titles, I actually preferred PS3's exclusives at launch compared to 360's.

How many times is this argument going to be had? I think the PS3 is better and others adore the 360, so what?

Whose being hopeful?
Uhhh... you are?

Claiming that the PS3 has "better exclusives" is such an insanely opinionated comment that it carries no value. If we're getting into personal beliefs I think the Wii has better exclusives than the PS3 as I'd rank Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy and some of those other few sexy hardcore titles higher than Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid or Killzone 2. It's impossible to have an "argument" when you're just speaking as a fan and not with logic. Anyways it's not worth even discussing.


I am no expert on FF games but aren't pretty much all FF games on some sort of playstation? With the greater percentage of FF 13 games being bought on PS3, exclusivity is more likely to go to sony.
No they're not. Plenty of unique games appear on the Nintendo consoles notably the Final Fantasy Tactics Advance series as well as the Crystal Chronicles titles. I believe the Tactics Advance games have outsold their much better predecessor on the PSP thanks to a low installed user base so it's clear that it doesn't have to be carried by Sony to sell. Personally I attribute it to the PSP being terrible but that's just me.

I still think your hoping for some more exclusives, which is just about the only thing going for 360 in my eyes. I hear ALOT of complaints about the community that you pay for, (it may be happening less but) RROD happens alot more than the YLOD, I have also heard it has slightly worse hardware not counting the lack of bluray. Thats not me being a fanboy, it's me being black and white.
While I'm no fan of the XBL community how you seem to believe this is not sounding like a fanboy is beyond me. Weasel words aren't going to prevent it from sounding like the squealing of a fan. It'd be like me saying I heard that Sony sodomizes every PS3's disc drive before it's released. I'm not saying it's a fact I'm just telling you what I heard. At least speak with actual facts - point to articles or whatever, don't just talk about "what I heard" since that basically means nothing.

RROD may happen more than YLOD, nobody can argue that, but at least the RROD is going to be covered, and replaced free of charge, for the most part while you'll have to pay $150 for a Sony fixer. Why hasn't anyone complained about how unreliable the old PS1 and 2 were? In my years of owning them I've gone through two PS1's and a PSOne model and my three PS2's. Sure the 360 is terrible but it's not entirely unique when it comes to disc based players.

And while the XBL community can be kind of... "special" at times I've also met more awesome people on there as opposed to my PS3 gaming experiences where I haven't met a single person who I'd ever talk to again. So it's a mixed bag.

Technically speaking of course the PS3 is superior. However I still don't see it as having all that impressive of a library. The PS3 is, to me, this console generations original Xbox. Sure there are some killer games but almost everything else can be gotten on another console with really no difference. Some will remember it fondly but overall there's only a few reasons to own it.
 

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Nope, it's not happening, don't forget that Square Enix is a japanese company and in japan the playstation is a lot more popular (some claim the xbox is dead in japan) while the XBOX is a lot more popular in the US, so they decided to port it for the XBOX to reach those new markets (remember, the news about ffXIII coming to XBOX came from the time when the Playstation wasn't doing quite well, this has only changed recently)

Well, long story short, square enix will develop for both consoles, what's for them to lose?

Nothing, but they have a lot to gain from going multiplatform.
 

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That would actually be really funny to have Square go from Nintendo to Sony to Microsoft. It won't happen unless they want to make less money, but it WOULD be funny.
 

Hollock

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No, the whole point they added 360 is because they want to expand their audience.
 

oregondonor

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Another thing: Yoshinori Kitase recently gave an interview regarding FFXV to XBox 360 World magazine.

Look at the success FFXIII has had on the 360. Almost as many 360 copies were bought as PS3 copies. It's clearly popular with 360 owners. If MS can get SE to agree to a 360 bundle and exclusive advertising, why can't they pay them to develop exclusively for 360. It'd give them a chance to say to gamers "Hey, you want to play Final Fantasy, you'll have to buy a 360." Surely MS can cover the losses SE would incur by not developing for the PS3.

I also think Natal and Move will play into this. Natal is clearly more popular and hyped than the Move and will make more people buy the 360 than the PS3, especially people who have neither of them. As the 360 user base grows faster than the PS3 user base, more people will buy FFXIII on the 360, thus swinging the balance in its direction.
 

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I really, really doubt they'd do that because there is nothing to gain from doing so. They want to get their products out to as many people as possible to make as much money as possible, right?
 

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When you include sales in Japan, it's absurd to claim that the 360 version sold "almost as well" as the PS3 version. I can't help but imagine that sales in Japan would be pretty important to a Japanese company.
 

oregondonor

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Enigmers said:
I really, really doubt they'd do that because there is nothing to gain from doing so. They want to get their products out to as many people as possible to make as much money as possible, right?
Yeah, but if MS can pay them enough to cover the losses from not developing for PS3, they get more exclusives, which means more incentive for people to buy the 360, which means more money for both.
 

Reg5879

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Bah, if they did go MS Exclusive, I wouldn't care because Square Enix are a shadow of their former self. But seriously, I wouldn't see it happening.
 

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First off- This would make no financial sense. Numbers time- FFXIII sold 1.8 million PS3 units in japan alone. To cut out that audience, SE would lose 108 million dollars. lets cut out the price of disc and packaging and all that stuff- I have no clue how much that is. But, for the sake of argument- Lets assume that it's 30 dollars(correction would be nice). For buying out the game to make sense, *just for japan, for the launch sales*, MS would have to pay around 60 million dollars. *FOR JAPAN. AT LAUNCH.*
(yes, I was too lazy for keep looking to world launch statistics, but I think even just japan makes a decent point.)

And as for the console discussion- The only two gaming systems you need are a PC and a PS3. Why? Most of the good (IMO) "360 exclusives" that you should care about are just not available on PS3. Mass effect, Left 4 Dead, . And PC gets a lot of decent exclusives of it's own. Plus mods. And free DLC, sometimes.Plus, you get to use mouse + keyboard. Which makes just about any game better.

As for the PS3, that's for buying console exclusives like FFXIII, MGS4, Rock Band, Little Big Planet, or games that had the injustice of getting a horrid PC port- pre-patch GTA4, Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, and a few others I can't think of of the top of my head.

Sure, 360 gets Halo, GoW, Fable, Dead rising, and a few other games, but it also has online that you have to pay for and an 70$+ wireless router. (and both Natal and Move are stupid, but Sony seems more aware that Move is stupid. Not many points for that, but still.)