Could the United States be invaded?

[sooperman]

Methinks that this thread has derailed, because now we are making jokes toward eachother's coutries.

For example: Evil Jak, we do, in fact, find your stabs funny, but let's try to reduce them, like, a lot.

The following is simply to end a trend on this thread; viewer discresion is advised. I don't mean to start a war, Jak, but did you ever sit down and speak with Bush? Did you ever even hear one of his speeches on TV? You claim he was unintelligent, but how would you know?

But on topic: I think we have decided that YES the U.S. can be invaded, but NO it would not be worth it to occupy.

If you think a nuclear armed North Korea ISN'T something to be worried about, then you're not only ignorant of the facts, but DANGEROUSLY so.

Did you mean to quote me, or someone else? Before I call you out, I'll let you get back to this. Please read through the quotes again before responding.

 

[Ignignoct]

Methinks that this thread has derailed, because now we are making jokes toward eachother's coutries.

For example: Evil Jak, we do, in fact, find your stabs funny, but let's try to reduce them, like, a lot.

The following is simply to end a trend on this thread; viewer discresion is advised. I don't mean to start a war, Jak, but did you ever sit down and speak with Bush? Did you ever even hear one of his speeches on TV? You claim he was unintelligent, but how would you know?

But on topic: I think we have decided that YES the U.S. can be invaded, but NO it would not be worth it to occupy.

If you think a nuclear armed North Korea ISN'T something to be worried about, then you're not only ignorant of the facts, but DANGEROUSLY so.

Did you mean to quote me, or someone else? Before I call you out, I'll let you get back to this. Please read through the quotes again before responding.

Oh, my bad.

I saw you say the thread was derailed, and I immediately thought of the socio-economic paradigm shift that comes with a nuclear-armed dictatorship that uses said weapons to extort money from the international community.

 

[LewsTherin]

The United States can easily be invaded. Whether that invasion is of any success is up to question, however.

 

[thel1st]

USA in middle, canada from the north, mexico from the south, japan/china from the west, and england/britan/europe w/e from the east, we would be totally fucked =/

Canada has what military power?

Mexico? What, they'll give us food poisoning?

Japan's military is all self-defense oriented.

America is a huge cash crop for China, whose goods are slowly replacing America's potential exports, further tightening their financial grip on us. Better for China to wage economical warfare, as they clearly have the advantage, then.

Europe? How would they get to us? Do you know how many carriers, destroyers, frigates, and best of all, nuclear warhead-fitted submarines there are in the Atlantic and Gulf?

I say no, good sir!

no no the mexicans will give us swine flue
THE ATTACK HAS ALREADY BEGUN

unfortunately the swine flu hit all over the world because the mexicans leap over walls before the look whats on the other side (aka other countries)

now excuse me, im off to watch red dawn just incase you foreigners try somehting.... ill be ready

 

[sooperman]

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Oh, my bad.

I saw you say the thread was derailed, and I immediately thought of the socio-economic paradigm shift that comes with a nuclear-armed dictatorship that uses said weapons to extort money from the international community.

lolwut

Yeah... no problem ?___?

 

[Hoxton]

Maybe, but it wouldn't last long.

I'm not an overly-patriotic pro-America extremist or anything, but in all seriousness I can say that there is no country in existence currently capable of defeating the US armed forces in conventional warfare.

Maybe if every country in the world teamed up against them (well all the world's military powers atleast) they might be able to overwhelm the US, but since that is highly unlikely I would not suggest to anyone a conventional war against the US.

Plus, I do believe they have military bases all over the world. If I am right, a super carrier has moved over to japan with the russians practically being our best friend.

Beaten to the punch, there supposedly about 750 military bases outside of the u.s.

Russians never were and never will be US's best friend.
In fact the Russian army alone could conquer US easily. With the Russian warfare tech being what it is now, US wouldn't stand a chance.
Think about it for a bit the new Russian SU-30- Vectored Thrust with Canards . With the canards moving along side of, and just below the canopy rail. The fighter can stall from high speed, stopping in less than a second. Then it demonstrates an ability to descend tail first without causing a compressor stall. It can also recover from a flat spin in less than a minute. These capabilities don't exist in any other aircraft in the world today.
BUT!
The thing is, that the Russia is selling the SU-30 bluntly. Just THINK about the weapons that they don't sell or either show to the public.
Without doubt, Russia is and always was light years ahead of the rest of the planet in warfare tech.

 

[sooperman]

Without doubt, Russia is and always was light years ahead of the rest of the planet in warfare tech.

WARNING: NERD ALERT ATCIVATED
Light years are a measure of distance, and not time. That is all thank you.

 

[fulano]

Maybe, but it wouldn't last long.

I'm not an overly-patriotic pro-America extremist or anything, but in all seriousness I can say that there is no country in existence currently capable of defeating the US armed forces in conventional warfare.

Maybe if every country in the world teamed up against them (well all the world's military powers atleast) they might be able to overwhelm the US, but since that is highly unlikely I would not suggest to anyone a conventional war against the US.

Plus, I do believe they have military bases all over the world. If I am right, a super carrier has moved over to japan with the russians practically being our best friend.

Beaten to the punch, there supposedly about 750 military bases outside of the u.s.

Russians never were and never will be US's best friend.
In fact the Russian army alone could conquer US easily. With the Russian warfare tech being what it is now, US wouldn't stand a chance.
Think about it for a bit the new Russian SU-30- Vectored Thrust with Canards . With the canards moving along side of, and just below the canopy rail. The fighter can stall from high speed, stopping in less than a second. Then it demonstrates an ability to descend tail first without causing a compressor stall. It can also recover from a flat spin in less than a minute. These capabilities don't exist in any other aircraft in the world today.
BUT!
The thing is, that the Russia is selling the SU-30 bluntly. Just THINK about the weapons that they don't sell or either show to the public.
Without doubt, Russia is and always was light years ahead of the rest of the planet in warfare tech.

Sorry dude, but deterrence doesn't work that way. You're talking about the ones that built AND detonated the Tsar Bomba, right?

War tech is like a bodacious hot girl: If you got it flaunt it. Period.

And it's not like mama Russia is doing all that great military wise. They are doing better now, but they are not close to the U.S military by a longshot, I'd say.

And besides, you don't need a massive army to fuck up with the U.S to pepper it for an invasion. A single nuke will do the trick. You blow it high enough, and watch the EMP fuck up with telecomunicastions nationwide and reduce the country back to the stone age(and kill everyone with a pacemaker who is within range). There you go.

 

[Kinguendo]

Methinks that this thread has derailed, because now we are making jokes toward eachother's coutries.

For example: Evil Jak, we do, in fact, find your stabs funny, but let's try to reduce them, like, a lot.

The following is simply to end a trend on this thread; viewer discresion is advised. I don't mean to start a war, Jak, but did you ever sit down and speak with Bush? Did you ever even hear one of his speeches on TV? You claim he was unintelligent, but how would you know?

But on topic: I think we have decided that YES the U.S. can be invaded, but NO it would not be worth it to occupy.

Yes, actually yes. Do you think that because I live in Britain we don't get American things on TV? We see speeches made by Bush all the time, its bloody hilarious. XD

And yes, YES! He is clearly an idiot, he spent ages trying to open locked doors after a press conference... HAHAHAHA!

 

[wwjdftw]

Spoiler

Even though the US's army is on the other side of the globe, the country is still full of red-necks who have at least five guns in their homes. (Joking)(Maybe a little bit true, but still a joke).

No, you're pretty much correct. Ever see some of the shitstorms that those Rednecks pulled up when Obama was elected?

Spoiler

agreed, but here you go. I'm not a "redneck" persay, but i have

3 12gauge shotguns- 2 pump- 1 semi-auto
2 20 gauge shotguns - 1 semi-auto - 1 bolt

3 kimber 45. pistoles

1 savage 270. rifle burris scope
1 remington 30-06 riffle wiht scope

1 taurus "judge" fires 45.longcolt/.410 shotgun shell

2 22. pistols- 1 semi auto- 1 single action

1 .357 magnum

3 22.LR rifles

6-7 pellet/bb guns

and the grand finnale

MAK-47 with 6-7 30 round clips, 2 75 round drums, and a full auto kit at the ready.

lets see who can take my town >

EDIT: LOLOLOL right after the guy who said guns are irresponsible

Could my lasers count?

only if they can burn shit >

You can't even imagine- most of em' ended up in being water-cooled with attendant backpacks.

I've been thinking about making one of those "exo-suits", whose plans you can find on the internet, and building one (they can go for under 1000$) then arming the *****. Who needs a "land warrior"?

yes , that does sound most interesting, infact i think im going to start making some of these. > imagine the havok we could cause together, it would be *sniffles* beautiful

haha imagine two guys walking down the main road into a small town occuipied with enemy forces, wearing armored exo-suits, the enime doesnt know what they are, and all of a sudden they just open up.

 

[mitchellkenn]

Does anyone relise that the easiest way to invade the states is cut off all of its inports?They would most likely last less than a week at the current popuation.

 

[Kinguendo]

You sir are an idiot and an arsehole. Well equiped maybe, well trained... ok a 5 year old would have better military training then the American army, I mean America trains their soldiers by getting them to play FPS games. Until they can actually win a fight they have started all by themselves I refuse to believe what you say is true.

You remember when our Navy SEALs decided to simultaneously headshot a group of somali pirates on a life-raft from the stern of a ship on ocean waters at night during Easter Sunday?

Yeah.

That was fun.

Why was easter sunday included in this? Was that supposed to add to the "EXTREME-ness" of this?

Oh, you should have been in Britain as we found out about that... There was this really loud and simultanious yawning sound. XD

Because they found an easter egg in some of the splashed brain-matter of one of the pirates.

And your disinterest is noted. Go be disinterested somewhere >XD.

Why did they keep easter eggs in their brains? Maybe thats why they were so easy to kill. XD

Also, isn't easter a Christian thing? Just saying, Somalia... easter... in Somalia?

We brought them American democracy, and all the Christian holidays that come with it.

With bullets.

Must have been really slow bullets to do all that... really lucky shots then... ZING! XD

Oh, I don't mind your jabs.

Problem is, people need to WANT democracy for it to take hold.

Clearly, the pirate's skulls were willing to let us in with our gifts of peace and prosperity through their heads.

So... you brought democracy to 3 people and tiny moments later killed them? America is awesome(!)

Oh man, did I get you again? XD

Precisely.

The sheer joy and wonder of achieving societal nirvana is too hard to follow up. It's simply too amazingly wonderful for the Pirates, and anything afterwards wouldn't live up to the moment they heard the BANG of freedom coming at them.

So we killed them in sweet mercy.

You think you're getting me? =p

Stating the obvious does not qualify, especially when I'm the one ragging on American foreign policy.

I was going to say something relevent to this... and maybe funny. But then I saw that you rushed to my defence (intentionally or not)... I LOVE YOU, MAN! XD

Hey, it did turn out to be funny. XD

 

[sooperman]

Methinks that this thread has derailed, because now we are making jokes toward eachother's coutries.

For example: Evil Jak, we do, in fact, find your stabs funny, but let's try to reduce them, like, a lot.

The following is simply to end a trend on this thread; viewer discresion is advised. I don't mean to start a war, Jak, but did you ever sit down and speak with Bush? Did you ever even hear one of his speeches on TV? You claim he was unintelligent, but how would you know?

But on topic: I think we have decided that YES the U.S. can be invaded, but NO it would not be worth it to occupy.

Yes, actually yes. Do you think that because I live in Britain we don't get American things on TV? We see speeches made by Bush all the time, its bloody hilarious. XD

And yes, YES! He is clearly an idiot, he spent ages trying to open locked doors after a press conference... HAHAHAHA!

Do you, by any chance, support Obama? You seem to know* a lot about our leaders, so I assume you have either a "yes" or a "no" for that question. And if you don't mind me asking, what press conference was this, why would anyone, stupid or not do this, and do you ever plan on supporting your claim that he is unintelligent?

/angry patriotism; I'm off to bed. Talk to you all in the morning, whenever that is for all of you people.

*think you know

 

[Deguasser]

Happens everyday, illegal aliens coming in lol

 

[letsnoobtehpwns]

I highly doubt it will happen any time soon.

 

[BoneCrusherBOB]

We haven't had a war on American soil since the revolutionary war. I think our government will attempt to stop all attacks on American soil till the last possible chance.

 

[Kuala BangoDango]

They wouldn't need to invade us.

Give us 20 to 50 more years and we'll destroy ourselves.

It's happened in ALL the big empires throughout history....especially the democratic ones....Rome is the big example.

Edit: Just look at how long it took us to react to a one night hurricane in New Orleans, and the havoc and disorganization we had during the following weeks. Heck, years later we still haven't recovered. Compare that to London during WW2 when they got bombed on a nightly basis and by the next day they were all out cleaning up, rebuilding, and recovering.

 

[chessdragon]

It will happen(eventualy) and has happened in the USA's past but it seems like it would only be if the USA pissed of Russia and China to the point were they would not worry about NATO. (Yes america still has friends)

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

I'll just repeat what's already been said dozens of times in this blatant American-bashing thread.

Could U.S. soil be invaded? Sure. With enough coordination and manpower, and the right choice of landing zones, it wouldn't be terribly hard to put hostile boots on the ground. There would even be a chance to make headway inland and take control of major metropolitan areas.

Could it be held? No. You have the military to contend with (Navy and Coast Guard just to get on the shores, Army- Regular, Reserve and National Guard- Marines and Air Force afterwards), and then there's state and local police forces, and then after THAT there's the civilians. Just about every police force in this nation is armed, with some of them employing specialized SWAT teams trained in counter-terrorist and hostage situations. And remember that this is a country where ownership of firearms is legal, so you run a very good chance of any civilians you face being armed and trained (granted, not to the level of being a match for the military, but enough to be dangerous to an advancing force). About the only objective that would be achieved would be the chance to say "lol, we invaded your country".

Invading the U.S. is not like playing a side-scrolling beat-em-up. You don't get to cross a handful of streets, take down the last boss (the President) and then say "we win, you all lose, stop fighting now".

And to the claim that you would simply sneak in ten million "sleeper agents" to infiltrate our cities: Sure, that would work, if not a single one of them had an attack of conscience, or mistakenly blabbed within earshot of someone, or left a crucial file lying on the desk of a Hotel 6 just outside of Walla-Walla, Washington.