I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.DrOswald said:Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.chstens said:Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.FernandoV said:You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.backinthepresentfuture said:the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^
A better question is why would the creator bother to do that anyway?Ammutseba said:And I've learned that Buddhism isn't a religion as much as a religious lifestyle, so it doesn't count.Akichi Daikashima said:Buddhism doesn't accept the idea of god; instead it focuses on the fact that there was a guy who done good things after a childhood of privilege and luxury, and like that guy(budha) buddhists believe that their purpose is to become better humans.Ammutseba said:Every single religion.
Well, that and a claim that any education past high school is really a scam.
Actually, atheists aren't the ones making a claim that something is, thus the burden of proof is on those who claim that there IS a creator.shadowkrai said:For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category
If you go with the whole "can't be disproven" mindset you can believe whatever you want, regardless of how nutty it may be.
However, I can disprove that this creator is almighty, for those who believe that:
If the creator is almighty, can he create an object too heavy for him to lift?
If the creator can create an object too heavy for him to lift, he's not almighty because he can't lift it. If he can't create an object too heavy for him to lift, he's not almighty because he can't create it.
I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.erttheking said:Do you have to be so insulting about it?backinthepresentfuture said:the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^
Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.shadowkrai said:For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category
[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]chstens said:I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.DrOswald said:Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.chstens said:Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.FernandoV said:You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.backinthepresentfuture said:the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^
Ridiculous ideas are worthy only of ridicule.DrOswald said:Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.chstens said:SNIPFernandoV said:SNIPbackinthepresentfuture said:SNIP
316 is the Book of Revelation? Not sure what you are trying to say there.Darren716 said:So recently here in good ol, America people have been theorizing that Tim Tebow, an American football star who is devoutly religious, is the second coming of Christ, literally. Because the world is "supposedly" going to end this year many Americans have called Tebow a second coming because he has won some games he wasn't supposed to and because some of his stats from his latest game added up to 316 which is the book of revelation which from my limited knowledge of the bible states that Christ will return before the world is going to end in the form of someone famous and who seems to preform miracles. I see several holes in this theory one of which is why would Christ return in the form of someone only Americans give a shit about when there are Christians all over the world, also why would the Mayan calendar have anything to do with how the world is going to end according to Christians. So what are some of the craziest/stupidest theories someone has ever tell you.
FernandoV said:Trippy Turtle said:I don't understand. How is calling a god invisible, when he does in fact fit the definition of the word, a sign of immaturity? I don't even know if it's possible for anyone to debate this, regardless of what they believe. Some people choose to believe in an invisible best friend and some don't. It just seems to me that it's the former which is actually closer to a childlike mindset.FernandoV said:backinthepresentfuture said:the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^
It's no offense to me because despite your assumption that I'm a theist, I'm actually not. When theists say "You can't disprove it" it's not to mock the belief's of others, it's just a flimsy argument that doesn't seek to offend anyone; when atheists on the other hand use the immature "invisible etc etc" analogy it just makes atheists look like 13 year olds on XBL.
as brainwashings go, "Make them all nice!" is about as diabolical as orphan hugs.ToastiestZombie said:I predict some form of storm, definitely including faecal matter.
OT: There was a thread a few days ago that basically said MLP was a dark conspiracy to brainwash normal adult males to be "Kind" and "Caring". That was just too weird to handle. I could see the OP of that thread's point though, it is still a bit weird that some people have changed their behaviour after watching FiM. But that isn't anything to worry about.
Ids Braam said:Do unreadable theories count? I would then suggest the timecube http://www.timecube.com/ You lose IQ from just trying to understand.
JonnyHG said:FernandoV said:Everyone believes in something intangible based upon only faith; there's no personal harm to you if they want to believe it. If you mock harmless beliefs just because you don't agree THAT'S immature. Don't give me lines about Crusades, radicals, etc etc because, yea, we're all aware that religion as an institution is capable of some evils but every organized institution is capable of influence to their favor; the faith of individuals shouldn't be marginalized for the crimes of the institution that claims the same faith.Trippy Turtle said:I don't understand. How is calling a god invisible, when he does in fact fit the definition of the word, a sign of immaturity? I don't even know if it's possible for anyone to debate this, regardless of what they believe. Some people choose to believe in an invisible best friend and some don't. It just seems to me that it's the former which is actually closer to a childlike mindset.FernandoV said:backinthepresentfuture said:the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^
It's no offense to me because despite your assumption that I'm a theist, I'm actually not. When theists say "You can't disprove it" it's not to mock the belief's of others, it's just a flimsy argument that doesn't seek to offend anyone; when atheists on the other hand use the immature "invisible etc etc" analogy it just makes atheists look like 13 year olds on XBL.
guidance said:My friend theorized that there is a penis constant, and every race is divided up penis equally between its members. So races with a higher population would get less penis. His explanation for Africa was that they had a high mortality rate. No I don't think he was serious but that's still the craziest theory I've ever heard.
In this case, no one was making any claim that God is real, only that unprovoked mocking makes you a jerk. Also, if you want people to stop believing in something, then the burden of proof is on you. If you want someone to take action you must bring something of substance to the table. The same is true if you want someone to begin believing in something. The burden of proof is whoever is trying to convince someone else. It is on whoever is trying to change the status quo. Attempting to disprove something is just as much a claim as attempting to prove something. Especially if the individual has a lifetime of religious experiences you want them to ignore.Woodsey said:Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.
The first is indeed more important. But respecting others despite their beliefs is very important, even if you do not share them. This is not happening here. In this thread people are mocking the most important beliefs of others and by extension insulting them. If you do not believe that is fine, but making a deliberate attack against someone's beliefs with the intent of insult is crossing the boundary of good taste and moral decency.People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.