Craziest/ supidest theories you have ever heard

[spartan231490]

I find the theory of atheism to be pretty crazy. Communism I find to be pretty stupid. I'd say those are the two big ones.

 

[MetalDooley]

A lot of them have already been mentioned but here's one that hasn't been brought up yet..

Vaccines cause autism in children

Thousands of people still believe this and refuse to have their kids vaccinated despite the fact that the research was discredited and the doctor involved was deemed to have been unethical in his research by the medical authorities in the UK.FFS the guy was being paid by lawyers representing parents who believed that vaccines had harmed their kids

The sad thing is that it's the children who are suffering as they are being exposed to potentially dangerous diseases because of the stupidity of their parents

 

[Woodsey]

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

In this case, no one was making any claim that God is real, only that unprovoked mocking makes you a jerk. Also, if you want people to stop believing in something, then the burden of proof is on you. If you want someone to take action you must bring something of substance to the table. The same is true if you want someone to begin believing in something. The burden of proof is whoever is trying to convince someone else. It is on whoever is trying to change the status quo. Attempting to disprove something is just as much a claim as attempting to prove something. Especially if the individual has a lifetime of religious experiences you want them to ignore.

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

The first is indeed more important. But respecting others despite their beliefs is very important, even if you do not share them. This is not happening here. In this thread people are mocking the most important beliefs of others and by extension insulting them. If you do not believe that is fine, but making a deliberate attack against someone's beliefs with the intent of insult is crossing the boundary of good taste and moral decency.

I am a liberal in a family of staunch conservatives. I have a great deal of experience trying to convince people of my point of view. I have found that disrespect causes no change and only encourages hate. It has no redeeming value. However, showing respect at the very worst encourages cooperation and a free exchange of ideas. It may even help a misguided individual to see the light, so to speak.

There are times when not openly mocking it is beneficial (like in an actual debate); I don't think that's a prerequisite for a thread based around the stupidest theories we've heard. So they get some gentle ribbing, so what? Learn to be less fragile.

Oops, I missed the first para:

"In this case, no one was making any claim that God is real, only that unprovoked mocking makes you a jerk. Also, if you want people to stop believing in something, then the burden of proof is on you. If you want someone to take action you must bring something of substance to the table. The same is true if you want someone to begin believing in something. The burden of proof is whoever is trying to convince someone else. It is on whoever is trying to change the status quo. Attempting to disprove something is just as much a claim as attempting to prove something. Especially if the individual has a lifetime of religious experiences you want them to ignore."

Bull to the Shit.

"Also, if you want people to stop believing in something, then the burden of proof is on you."

You can't prove a negative. You've just twisted the situation round and tried to slap burden of proof where it doesn't belong; what you're actually saying is that burden of proof belongs to everyone in the debate, so again I'll throw out the "I can fly; disprove it!" example.

"It is on whoever is trying to change the status quo."

If you're proving something else that would then appear to be to the contrary (say, evolution), not if you're denouncing something for which there is no evidence.

"Attempting to disprove something is just as much a claim as attempting to prove something."

Not if there's no evidence for what you're trying to disprove in the first place.

 

[requisitename]

Holocaust denial.

Does it matter? Who cares if someone denies it or not ?

Yes, it matters. It's a particularly nasty form of anti-Semitism. If you can't see why saying the Holocaust never happened and the Jewish community is making it all up in order to further their own agenda(s) is bad, I'm afraid I can't help.

So now , a person is not allowed to not believe something that everyone else believes? Isn't that the same kind of logic that caused the deaths of millions of people in the middle ages ?( Religious crusades)

A person should be allowed to believe or not believe what ever they chose, isn't that eveyones right?

I must admit to being a little puzzled here. This is a thread for the "craziest/stupidest theories you've ever heard".. I posted the one that struck me.. and it's okay for everyone else to do that.. but not me? Not this? Not.. something?

I honestly don't understand what's wrong with my thinking Holocaust denial is crazy/stupid. It's my opinion. By your own logic, It's my right to think it's stupid. Further, you're implying that people have the right to believe whatever they want without being challenged.. so, why are you challenging my beliefs? How are they different?

I actually don't care what other people believe. It's absolutely their right to be stupid by my estimation. But, someone asked what beliefs I think are stupid and I answered. Seriously, how did this become an issue? Why does it bother you so much that I am against Holocaust denial?

 

[dvd_72]

The first is indeed more important. But respecting others despite their beliefs is very important, even if you do not share them. This is not happening here. In this thread people are mocking the most important beliefs of others and by extension insulting them. If you do not believe that is fine, but making a deliberate attack against someone's beliefs with the intent of insult is crossing the boundary of good taste and moral decency.
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Now hold on a minute! By your logic this entire thread is disrespectful, and I don't mean all the "Hur dur invisible god man does magic" stuff. I mean all the various conspiracy theories that have been laughed about here. Someone, somewhere, believes in that and you're mocking them too. You have no right to take any kind of moral high ground in this.

And while I agree that some anti-regligeon comments have been a little harsh, you cannot get angry at people stating thier opinion on it. If they don't believe it, they will think that the idea of god is bizzare and insane. On the flip side, theists will think that -not- believing in god is bizzare and insane.

If I say I don't believe in god and that I think the idea is strange and inherently flawed, and you become offended, then that makes me think you're a little too unsure of your beliefs, and that you feel the need to defend them from every percieved threat in order to maintain your world view.

The same goes for the reverse situation. If I say that I believe in god and that the idea of there being no god is strange and inherently flawed, and you get offended, then you are too unsure of your belief in the lack of god and need to take every opportunity to argue against it to convince yourself you're right.

I watched an episode of Dr. Who which included the most brilliant villain race I have ever seen. It is a race of aliens whom you forget they ever existed the moment you look away from them, even on a photograph or recording. And thanks to the efforts of the Doctor, we've been killing off their species since the moon landing, and we have no idea that we're doing it.

I remember that one! Can I use that as a parody conspiracy theory? please?

 

[JonnyHG]

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

I don't understand. How is calling a god invisible, when he does in fact fit the definition of the word, a sign of immaturity? I don't even know if it's possible for anyone to debate this, regardless of what they believe. Some people choose to believe in an invisible best friend and some don't. It just seems to me that it's the former which is actually closer to a childlike mindset.

Everyone believes in something intangible based upon only faith; there's no personal harm to you if they want to believe it. If you mock harmless beliefs just because you don't agree THAT'S immature. Don't give me lines about Crusades, radicals, etc etc because, yea, we're all aware that religion as an institution is capable of some evils but every organized institution is capable of influence to their favor; the faith of individuals shouldn't be marginalized for the crimes of the institution that claims the same faith.

First of all, every PERSON is capable of evil, regardless of what they believe. Second of all, I did not mock any faith. Everything I said in my previous post is true. In my opinion, EVERY belief (or non-belief) needs to be criticized when it is justified. Justified criticism is not immature, and the lack of a harm from a certain belief is no reason for it to be exempt from criticism. And trust me, when I do mock beliefs it's because I have pretty good reasons, which go far beyond simply having a difference of opinion.

 

[spartan231490]

I present for your delectation: http://www.truthism.com/

A quotation: "Human beings were created (that is, invented) via genetic experiments that were conducted by reptilian aliens."

The site is made even funnier by the overall tone; you are an absolute moron for not realizing that reptilian aliens live inside the Earth. Which is hollow and has an internal sun. The crowning moment of funny is the section on women.

Thank you so much for posting this. I hadn't made it far enough to see the section on women last time when I first heard about this theory. I haven't laughed so hard in years. It was a great way to start off my night, thank you kind sir.

OT: I take back what I said. Truthism definitely way outdoes what I said before.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

I am gonna go with Loose Change, just every form of Loose Change. The claim is ridiculous, and the evidence is the best of cherry picking, my favorite bit is the picture that shows "The Only Debris Found at the Pentagon Crash" and in the background you can see more plane debris.

Oh, it's very much a false claim. The people who made it don't even believe it.

Some crazy asshole gave them a shit load of money to turn a script the kids were writing about 9/11 being fake to make a documentary. A lot of money.

Should be things about it on YouTube.

 

[spartan231490]

I'm really torn between "intelligent design" and Scientology here. Sorry if anyone is offended by that, because that means your education has been severely lacking...

Disclaimer; I'm not anti-religious. It could well be that the Big Bang was a god snapping his fingers, but the whole 7-day creation 5000 years ago, irreducible complexity and other such arguments have been thoroughly voided.

And I really agree with Tim Minchin here:

I think you mean creationsim. Intelligent design is a compromise between creationism and evolution where god created the universe(all the way back to the big bang) in such a way as to cause it to evolve into the universe that exists now. Kinda odd, but certainly not as odd as most creationsist ideologies, certainly not 7 day creationsim.

 

[Erttheking]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

 

[spartan231490]

Lets make a list!
-Free will! Perhaps not a crazy theory, but it's pretty damn illogical.

Exposition, please.

Enjoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_argument_against_free_will

that's not an exposition, that's a headache, though that may be the alcohol talking. I can't really see how anyone can disagree with free will. I mean, my everyday life convinces me thatI have free will, what convinces you that I don't?

 

[oZode]

Aliens did everything for us.

Because humans back then were fully incapable of making the pyramids themselves!

 

[aoi287]

Wow, sure is a lot of religious intolerance in this thread. I'm an atheist, but damn.

OT: That time cube site is ridiculous.

Also, it always cracks me up when shows like Ancient Aliens go on and on about UFO-like objects appearing in old artwork. I don't get why they think these people MUST have seen aliens, as opposed to, I don't know, having an imagination.

 

[Arakasi]

Lets make a list!
-Free will! Perhaps not a crazy theory, but it's pretty damn illogical.

Exposition, please.

Enjoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_argument_against_free_will

that's not an exposition, that's a headache, though that may be the alcohol talking. I can't really see how anyone can disagree with free will. I mean, my everyday life convinces me thatI have free will, what convinces you that I don't?

... If you would actualy read the page you would get it.
But here's a small overview.
There are 2 concepts, one which states that action causes reaction, therefore there is no random: Determinism and another that allows for random action: Indeterminism.
Since our brains subscribe to the laws of physics, chemistry and whatnot, then either are actions are based upon previous action, or randomness.
As such, we are either bound to fate or randomness do not have free will.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

No offense but Theists need to get something better then "You can't disprove it" as well.

OT: Pretty much everything that people say without even a tiny bit of proof. Whether it be 2012 or religion it just gets people worked up for no reason. Seriously next time something like the end of the world doesn't happen we all should get to slap whoever decided it would.

It's no offense to me because despite your assumption that I'm a theist, I'm actually not. When theists say "You can't disprove it" it's not to mock the belief's of others, it's just a flimsy argument that doesn't seek to offend anyone; when atheists on the other hand use the immature "invisible etc etc" analogy it just makes atheists look like 13 year olds on XBL.

And calling him an insufferable atheist doesn't make you look like a 13 year old on xbox?

 

[spartan231490]

Lets make a list!
-Free will! Perhaps not a crazy theory, but it's pretty damn illogical.

Exposition, please.

Enjoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_argument_against_free_will

that's not an exposition, that's a headache, though that may be the alcohol talking. I can't really see how anyone can disagree with free will. I mean, my everyday life convinces me thatI have free will, what convinces you that I don't?

... If you would actualy read the page you would get it.
But here's a small overview.
There are 2 concepts, one which states that action causes reaction, therefore there is no random: Determinism and another that allows for random action: Indeterminism.
Since our brains subscribe to the laws of physics, chemistry and whatnot, then either are actions are based upon previous action, or randomness.
As such, we are either bound to fate or randomness do not have free will.

How do you know that our brains perscribe to predetermination or randomness? I don't really see either of this as a guarenteed occurance.

 

[Arakasi]

Lets make a list!
-Free will! Perhaps not a crazy theory, but it's pretty damn illogical.

Exposition, please.

Enjoy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_argument_against_free_will

that's not an exposition, that's a headache, though that may be the alcohol talking. I can't really see how anyone can disagree with free will. I mean, my everyday life convinces me thatI have free will, what convinces you that I don't?

... If you would actualy read the page you would get it.
But here's a small overview.
There are 2 concepts, one which states that action causes reaction, therefore there is no random: Determinism and another that allows for random action: Indeterminism.
Since our brains subscribe to the laws of physics, chemistry and whatnot, then either are actions are based upon previous action, or randomness.
As such, we are either bound to fate or randomness do not have free will.

How do you know that our brains perscribe to predetermination or randomness? I don't really see either of this as a guarenteed occurance.

Indeterminism and determinism cover both ends of the spectrum.
So if it is neither indeterminism nor determinism which controls the movement of matter what does?

 

[DementedSheep]

Well the one that immediately comes to mind is the all environmentalists want us all dead and are responsible for every terrorist attacks in recent years including 9/11 and Earth hour is apparently actually celebrating the fall of mankind.
The world is actually flat and those satellite images of the earth are all faked by the NASA.
If you micro chip your pet the government can use your pet to monitor you.
There is a group of people that believe that if you really don?t believe in death you won?t die.
Another was that the Queen of England wants to kill all Australians, I can?t remember why she supposedly wants to do this.
Aids denial makes even less sense than Holocaust denial.
A guy I know honestly believes vaccines are used to implant tracking devices in our skin, damn reasonable compared to allot of things but I?m friends with this guy and he is usually not like that.
And since reading this thread timecube...just what?

 

[Woodsey]

Religion, this 2012 business, and astrology. The usual stuff.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

Do you have to be so insulting about it?

I'm sure people's various gods will instill within them the strength to persevere through such horrific persecution.

For the whole "lol religion one", disprove that a god (not in the christian sense, just a creator) exists, then you can laugh at it, until that point, you're in the "smug c*nt" category

Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. If I told you I could fly and then in response to you asking to prove it, I told you to disprove it, I'd hope that you'd call me an idiot.

the idea of an invisible man in the clouds that can see everything and everyone at all times, that created all that is. thats pretty batshit bonkers to me! ^_^

You're probably too into your "insufferable atheist" stage of atheism to notice BUT, the long, drawn-out analogy you are using to express that you are talking about god has been used to death. Find a new gimmick.

Okay, how about an invisible skywizard that is his own son, that sacrificed himself, to himself, to prevent that all the people he made, didn't automatically go straight to hell, without collecting their 200$, even if passing Start.

Why do you feel the need to mock religion so viciously? Your an asshole, and I am calling you out on it. You give atheists a bad name. Please stop.

I'm sorry, I don't normally mock religion, but you did ask for a "new gimmick". I will stop.

[sub](I laughed.)[/sub]

People need to learn that there is a difference between respecting other people's right to believe what they want, and respecting other people's beliefs. The former is important, the latter, not so much.

You said religion again...are you just trying to get attention now? Also, no, no I'm not buying it, that's just a throwaway excuse for you to be an insulting jerk.

No, I said religion once. I wasn't aware there are rules against having the same answers as other people. Religion doesn't get a pass just because its religion; if we're to take the piss out of 2012-ers, the Y2K people, astrologists, etc, etc, then religion can get it in the neck too.

 

[michiehoward]

-Holocaust deniers
-Truthers
-Birthers
-Any conspiracy theory about 911
-The Bilderburg group
-Worldwide Jewry run earth

And that Timecube, I think my intelligence sunk
Oh and the moon landing didn't happen