Crysis 2 put into perspective

[Astalano]

It's been enough time since the release of Crysis 2 and I'd like to start off by saying that it is an insult to those PC gamers who bought Crysis and Warhead and expected more. It may not be a port but it was built with consoles chiefly in mind. It has/had quite a few mind boggling issues (press start to begin, adjust tv brightness, auto-aim) and going with the New York setting has limited the open endedness that defined the original. Yes, powers are more limited than before and yes, the AI is worse.

However, I am willing to give Crytek the benefit of the doubt because it is a good game at the end of the day. No, I'm not going to buy it until the Steam sale at the end of the year because it is a step backwards from Crysis and there's little reason for me to buy what amounts to a stripped down version of the original, but I still have to ackowledge that some of the community reactions are unjustified.

It is more optimized, the pacing and story is better and many of the elements that defined Crysis still exist, plain for all to see. It's a lot more accessible this time around with a lot more emphasis on making you feel like a super soldier.

Overall, I don't agree with a lot of the design decisions and while the multiplayer isn't anything new or different, at the end of the day, it is a good game and I think we should put away our pitchforks, if only until Crysis 3.

I will overlook this misstep, but I do expect a revolution with Crysis 3. I expect more powers and more focused powers (forget the new game + idea and focus on having, let's say 8 powers while providing limitations for each and shaping level, enemy and general gameplay design around those limitations). I expect more open levels. I expect it to be the graphical king, combining the revolutionary graphical design philosophy of the first game with the optimization design of the second. I expect it to take the gameplay of Crysis and meld it with the story philosophy of Crysis 2 (albeit an improved storyline and storytelling of Crysis 2), providing great gameplay with a thrilling story. I expect actual alien AI (not making aliens just aggressive humans). All this I think everyone expects.

Crysis 3 can be that step forward, so I will sheath my sword, holster my weapon, put down my pitchfork and wait.

What do you all think? Should Crytek be given another chance?

 

[Navenis]

No they lied to us. If they hadn't talked about how pc centric they were then yes i would happily forgive them.

 

[Malk_Content]

I'll be installing Crysis 2 on my PC in about two hours, I'll let you know in about four.

 

[Exterminas]

No they lied to us. If they hadn't talked about how pc centric they were then yes i would happily forgive them.

This exactly.
I don't have a problem with console ports to the PC. I prefere them over not being able to play the games without having to buy some brick to play games on.

I have however a problem with being fed bullshit and being told it's chocolate.

 

[MrA]

I will overlook this misstep, but I do expect a revolution with Crysis 3. I expect more powers and more focused powers (forget the new game + idea and focus on having, let's say 8 powers while providing limitations for each and shaping level, enemy and general gameplay design around those limitations). I expect more open levels. I expect it to be the graphical king, combining the revolutionary graphical design philosophy of the first game with the optimization design of the second. I expect it to take the gameplay of Crysis and meld it with the story philosophy of Crysis 2 (albeit an improved storyline and storytelling of Crysis 2), providing great gameplay with a thrilling story. I expect actual alien AI (not making aliens just aggressive humans). All this I think everyone expects.

Crysis 3 can be that step forward, so I will sheath my sword, holster my weapon, put down my pitchfork and wait.

I don't think this will happen. do you know why? because Crytek like money thus they will put Crysis 3 on consoles! unless Crysis 3 is on the next generation of consoles that can support all your expectations (not sure about 8 powers, not going to fit onto a gamepad very well) Crysis 3 will be an updated Crysis 2.

I have Crysis 2 on the 360 and it's a good game. Sure the AI can be annoying, and fighting the Ceph is so bad it makes me want to stop playing, but I'll overlook it for a fantastic single player experience.

the multiplayer isn't anything new or different

I disagree with this as well. You get a nano suit in multiplayer and the modes are different enough from the generic TDM, CTF, etc. that they're fun and it's a really good multiplayer experience.

 

[ImprovizoR]

The pacing and the story is better? How so? You never know what's going on and it never feels like the story is going forward. In Crysis 1 you always knew exactly what you were doing and why, and you knew in which direction the story was going.

 

[Asehujiko]

I will overlook this misstep, but I do expect a revolution with Crysis 3. I expect more powers and more focused powers (forget the new game + idea and focus on having, let's say 8 powers while providing limitations for each and shaping level, enemy and general gameplay design around those limitations). I expect more open levels. I expect it to be the graphical king, combining the revolutionary graphical design philosophy of the first game with the optimization design of the second. I expect it to take the gameplay of Crysis and meld it with the story philosophy of Crysis 2 (albeit an improved storyline and storytelling of Crysis 2), providing great gameplay with a thrilling story. I expect actual alien AI (not making aliens just aggressive humans). All this I think everyone expects.

Crysis 3 can be that step forward, so I will sheath my sword, holster my weapon, put down my pitchfork and wait.

I don't think this will happen. do you know why? because Crytek like money thus they will put Crysis 3 on consoles! unless Crysis 3 is on the next generation of consoles that can support all your expectations (not sure about 8 powers, not going to fit onto a gamepad very well) Crysis 3 will be an updated Crysis 2.

I have Crysis 2 on the 360 and it's a good game. Sure the AI can be annoying, and fighting the Ceph is so bad it makes me want to stop playing, but I'll overlook it for a fantastic single player experience.

the multiplayer isn't anything new or different

I disagree with this as well. You get a nano suit in multiplayer and the modes are different enough from the generic TDM, CTF, etc. that they're fun and it's a really good multiplayer experience.

Please read what you wrote. You admitted that you found large chunks of the game so shitty that not playing the game would be a superior alternative but still consider it "fantastic"?

 

[CriticalGriffin]

... Wait.

Sorry if I sound offtopic, but isn't this like what, the sixth Crysis 2 thread in this forum?

Why?

 

[MrA]

Please read what you wrote. You admitted that you found large chunks of the game so shitty that not playing the game would be a superior alternative but still consider it "fantastic"?

Yeah maybe I didn't put that into perspective. I didn't enjoy fighting the Ceph, it made ME want to stop playing, but overlooking this, it was a fantastic game because I can see that's how I felt, I can see the fighting the Ceph not being a problem for other gamers, It was just something I didn't enjoy because I like the more standard firefight rather than having to constantly watch my back, which I know some gamers would enjoy.

 

[Abedeus]

Yes, the game was ported to PC and it was made with consoles in mind.


That's why we get dedicated servers (hello, Call of Duty), high resolution textures, amazingly optimized engine (I run the game at Very High, and while I haven't tested Extreme version, it looks better than Crysis 1 at Very High, and works smoother) and DirectX 11. Besides, the game controls well, plays well with keyboard and mouse. Who the hell gives a damn about what is and isn't port? It doesn't play like a ported version.

 

[Astalano]

it looks better than Crysis 1 at Very High, and works smoother) and DirectX 11.

No it doesn't and it's running in Dx9.

 

[Zhukov]

Why is it such a big deal that the game say, "Press Start to begin"?

Seriously, that is the most pathetically petty complaint I have ever seen. It makes PC gamers look like those whiny creatures who complain about superhero costumes.

If the port has other issues then fine, complain to you heart's content. Lord knows, I would.

But "Press Start to begin" is just not worth it.

 

[Astalano]

Why is it such a big deal that the game say, "Press Start to begin"?

Seriously, that is the most pathetically petty complaint I have ever seen. It makes PC gamers look like those whiny creatures who complain about superhero costumes.

If the port has other issues then fine, complain to you heart's content. Lord knows, I would.

But "Press Start to begin" is just not worth it.

If the game on consoles told you to press enter to begin you would complain as well.

 

[Zhukov]

Why is it such a big deal that the game say, "Press Start to begin"?

Seriously, that is the most pathetically petty complaint I have ever seen. It makes PC gamers look like those whiny creatures who complain about superhero costumes.

If the port has other issues then fine, complain to you heart's content. Lord knows, I would.

But "Press Start to begin" is just not worth it.

If the game on consoles told you to press enter to begin you would complain as well.

No.

No I would not.

I am not a whiny little sod. I have better things to complain about.

 

[Astalano]

Why is it such a big deal that the game say, "Press Start to begin"?

Seriously, that is the most pathetically petty complaint I have ever seen. It makes PC gamers look like those whiny creatures who complain about superhero costumes.

If the port has other issues then fine, complain to you heart's content. Lord knows, I would.

But "Press Start to begin" is just not worth it.

If the game on consoles told you to press enter to begin you would complain as well.

No.

No I would not.

I am not a whiny little sod. I have better things to complain about.

Sure, sure. If it also had mouse acceleration in the settings and graphics settings on your console and monitor brightness, etc...

 

[Wicky_42]

Why is it such a big deal that the game say, "Press Start to begin"?

Seriously, that is the most pathetically petty complaint I have ever seen. It makes PC gamers look like those whiny creatures who complain about superhero costumes.

If the port has other issues then fine, complain to you heart's content. Lord knows, I would.

But "Press Start to begin" is just not worth it.

If the game on consoles told you to press enter to begin you would complain as well.

No.

No I would not.

I am not a whiny little sod. I have better things to complain about.

"Click here to begin!", "adjust mouse sensitivity", no "invert axis" option, high/medium/low graphic settings (only one of which will actually work on the console hardware), tool tips and help using "Press R for reload" and the such like - yes, you would complain, even if only a couple of those were present, as it would by symptomatic of a low quality port.

 

[Hiphophippo]

Why is it such a big deal that the game say, "Press Start to begin"?

Seriously, that is the most pathetically petty complaint I have ever seen. It makes PC gamers look like those whiny creatures who complain about superhero costumes.

If the port has other issues then fine, complain to you heart's content. Lord knows, I would.

But "Press Start to begin" is just not worth it.

If the game on consoles told you to press enter to begin you would complain as well.

No.

No I would not.

I am not a whiny little sod. I have better things to complain about.

"Click here to begin!", "adjust mouse sensitivity", no "invert axis" option, high/medium/low graphic settings (only one of which will actually work on the console hardware), tool tips and help using "Press R for reload" and the such like - yes, you would complain, even if only a couple of those were present, as it would by symptomatic of a low quality port.

Look, it's a port and I'm not complaining. That makes you wrong. I'm currently running it on PC and it's a very enjoyable game. I'd argue it's even better than the first, which I largely only appreciated for the graphics.

Fact is, I don't get up in arms over pointless shit. Sure, it's a port but it's a pretty great game anyway. I don't need to feel special about my personal preference in gaming platform, I just like playing great games.

And Crysis 2 is great.

 

[Zhukov]

Sure, sure. If it also had mouse acceleration in the settings and graphics settings on your console and monitor brightness, etc...

Key word there is "also".

Like I said, if it has other port-related issues then complain to your heart's content. But kicking up a fuss about the title screen saying "start" instead of "any key" is bloody ridiculous. And I mean that word literally, as in "deserving of ridicule".

Also, for the record, I play on PC. I don't own any consoles yet.

"Click here to begin!", "adjust mouse sensitivity", no "invert axis" option, high/medium/low graphic settings (only one of which will actually work on the console hardware), tool tips and help using "Press R for reload" and the such like - yes, you would complain, even if only a couple of those were present, as it would by symptomatic of a low quality port.

Like I said to the other guy, if there were other issues, ones which actually affected the game, then, sure, I would complain.

But complaining about "press start to begin" remains the epitome of pettiness.

 

[genamp]

If I'm not completely mistaken, I do believe that they have a small tool that adds an autoexe.cfg file to the game, allowing you to alter mouse settings, fov, graphical option, etc... Oh, and don't forget about that awful motion blur. And yes, I agree that Crytek should have included these automatically; it's a PC franchise, so rightfully it should be commonplace. There's little point in taking the "Computer" aspect out of "Computer Game". I believe that PC gamers/gaming-based companies should stop ingratiating themselves towards both the casual and console markets. It's becoming a point of ridicule and pity, both rightfully so. Perhaps a revolution of sorts is in order. But that's a vituperation for another day.

That said, I do enjoy the game very much. Oh, and it says "Press Enter to Begin" now. That was fixed, after the uproar of the community, amongst things such as auto-aim and the like. I hardly believe that the game is a low quality port, let alone a low quality anything. The game, having issues like many other lauded titles, is still rather remarkable. And if you look at chief complaints about the first Crysis, things such as the story and (benign, passe, bland) gameplay were all center stage. Yet, that didn't make it a bad game. It just allowed the graphical focus to reign supreme. They're both wonderful games, and Crytek deserves much more opportunity to grow and focus themselves.

 

[Vibhor]

Why is it such a big deal that the game say, "Press Start to begin"?

Seriously, that is the most pathetically petty complaint I have ever seen. It makes PC gamers look like those whiny creatures who complain about superhero costumes.

If the port has other issues then fine, complain to you heart's content. Lord knows, I would.

But "Press Start to begin" is just not worth it.

Go away, you haven't even played crysis 1.
You do not even have any reason to even criticize our criticism because you haven't even played what we are comparing the game to.
Go away, and enjoy your poor-of-a-sequel-but-still-just-fine-as-a-game.