"Cybersecurity Act of 2009" - American's beware of this...
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Seems to me that the president of America would be able to shut down certain parts of the internet during a stage of national emergency.
That's not exactly a "terrible" thing, its a means of protectng American cyber-space.
The main question would be what if a president abused this power and shut down the internet for something not strictly a national emergency. Or started disconnecting certain computors that did not pose a threat to national security. However, shutting down the interent for no good reason would be electoral suicide, so hopefully presidents would weild this power carefully.
No so sure about licensed proffesionals, what are they needed for? Whats the point of them? The internet, and interent companies and servers seem to run fine without licensed proffesionals? The internet doesnt need regulation- and i dont like how its rather vague about what these "cybersecurity professionals" actually do.
That's not exactly a "terrible" thing, its a means of protectng American cyber-space.
The main question would be what if a president abused this power and shut down the internet for something not strictly a national emergency. Or started disconnecting certain computors that did not pose a threat to national security. However, shutting down the interent for no good reason would be electoral suicide, so hopefully presidents would weild this power carefully.
No so sure about licensed proffesionals, what are they needed for? Whats the point of them? The internet, and interent companies and servers seem to run fine without licensed proffesionals? The internet doesnt need regulation- and i dont like how its rather vague about what these "cybersecurity professionals" actually do.
This is sort of like the thing that may be happening in Australia called "Cleen-Feed". There's even a steam group against it.IDBash said:
well were all going to end up like one of those movies where the goverment runs everything but are saying it just for the good of the people (if you dont know what im talking about go watch V for Venndetta)
That right there makes me cry myself to sleep every day.paulgruberman said:
OT: While this bill is still in its early stage I'm still concerned about what would come after this if politicians can get this to pass through.
You know what's funny about that? Republicans/Conservatives think Liberals are the socialists, while on the political spectrum Conservatism is closer to Socialism and Communism.ZeroMachine said:
First off I would like to state that I have no issue with emergency-state shutdown. BUT there is a hell of a lot more to this bill. They want to take over Cisco's program and my industry. Read the whole bill please. I even overviewed it for you if you wouldn't mind reading my initial post of the thread.AceDiamond said:
I am not a conspiracy theorist and fear monger; I am a realist. I see the worst case, I see human nature, I see greed, I see stupidity, I see apathy. I would never look to "allay fears". I look to take your fears upon myself so you no longer have to fear, they pay me to worry and make sure things don't go wrong. I still have a job in California that should say enough when 75% of my niche has been cut in my area. I am much more savvy on Cyber-Security than your Richard Clarke who granted knows a lot more than most about what IT really does, but even he stated "If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, then you will be hacked. What's more, you deserve to be hacked." (look on his wiki)
No Chinaman will ever get into my networks; I guarentee that, if he does I am out of a job. Karma is my ally as I work my ass off and with very little repayment for my efforts. (about the only thing that can happen is the Russians can crash my network with their new brute force technology that utilizes GPU's as the center of their hack...)
I have no issue with the emergency part of the bill its the rest that bothers me. The want to take over Cisco over the next 3 years... thats the part that bugs me. They will control the IT of every company. I would have to work for the government to stay in my current position. Your identity is stolen from your home machines 99/100 times. This will never help that. Companies do not need a government run Cisco certification program, that is a governmental power grab. The emergency situation is a safety clause.G1eet said:
I didn't say the government wants my personal info. That is not valuable.. you can buy a new ID at a penny cost. That is not worth protecting. But I do see the ability of this as having complete control and ownership of all intellectual property. Say I am designing software, I have to give the government complete control and access to my software... that is what I have a problem with. Turning in all my usernames and passwords to a government that is already selling my info? They are already selling everything else, so why would that be any different? Then my industry is not only government ran, but it is pointless as well because the hackers will just buy the info and log right in? No I get it. I work in it.
In order to work in the security branch of IT, you already need to be licensed. It is call Cisco certifications, Microsoft certifications, etc. You can't get a job without these. The government is the one getting hacked; How often do you hear of private organizations getting hacked? Private industry understands, the government is the one that doesn't. They need to start hiring guys with these certs and not the one with CS degrees. Also, they need to encourage overtime instead of strictly forbidding it. I work at least 2 hours of unpaid overtime per day, but that is another topic.Flying-Emu said: