Dad Alters Donkey Kong for His Daughter - With Pauline as the Hero

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First Reaction "Aww, I'd do that if I had a desire to have a daughter and learn how to code/animate etc."

After reading the thread: *pops open umbrella* With the Sexism Debates lately, I predict a fecal storm over this...welp, to quote that song 'Better check yo'self before you wreck yo'self'

But yes, very cute, I personally love it. Not about female empowerment/exploitation, just a sweet gesture from father to daughter. I feel if I had a daughter I'd spoil her...and also be the type to conveniently clean my gun on the front porch when some boy comes over.
 

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Doom972 said:
That kind of rom-hacking doesn't seem very innovative. It would've been more interesting if Donkey Kong had to rescue Mario from Pauline.
But its for his daughter, whos a girl and presumably human. Pretty sure she'd identify with the girl character more over DK.
 

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We should have thrown 140000 $ at this guy, his approach is far more reasonable.
 

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Fasckira said:
Doom972 said:
That kind of rom-hacking doesn't seem very innovative. It would've been more interesting if Donkey Kong had to rescue Mario from Pauline.
But its for his daughter, whos a girl and presumably human. Pretty sure she'd identify with the girl character more over DK.
I'm sure it's very exciting for that little girl, I don't see what's interesting about it for us, though.

I also don't get why a character needs to be of your gender/race for you to be able to identify with. I played plenty of characters of different genders and races and I for me it had little to no effect.
 

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Personally, I think I would've been a bit sad if my dad had done this for me. It's sweet, really, but I would've probably thought something to the effect of "But dad...I liked playing as Mario."

But then, I was never into the deep personalization thing.

Thankfully, this dad was not mine and his daughter is not me. I would hate to think he did all that work only for me to be, at best, meh about it.
 

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Shadu said:
Personally, I think I would've been a bit sad if my dad had done this for me. It's sweet, really, but I would've probably thought something to the effect of "But dad...I liked playing as Mario."

But then, I was never into the deep personalization thing.

Thankfully, this dad was not mine and his daughter is not me. I would hate to think he did all that work only for me to be, at best, meh about it.
well his daughter seemingly wanted that and isnt that just what female gamers want? the simple option of the choice.
it also shows that pauline can climb ladders too and who knows what that ape would do with the little plumber?
 

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Doom972 said:
Fasckira said:
Doom972 said:
That kind of rom-hacking doesn't seem very innovative. It would've been more interesting if Donkey Kong had to rescue Mario from Pauline.
But its for his daughter, whos a girl and presumably human. Pretty sure she'd identify with the girl character more over DK.
I'm sure it's very exciting for that little girl, I don't see what's interesting about it for us, though.

I also don't get why a character needs to be of your gender/race for you to be able to identify with. I played plenty of characters of different genders and races and I for me it had little to no effect.
It's probably because she's three years old and children are developmentally very egocentric. It could be legitimately more difficult for her to enjoy the game playing as a male character.
 

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StewShearer said:
Doom972 said:
Fasckira said:
Doom972 said:
That kind of rom-hacking doesn't seem very innovative. It would've been more interesting if Donkey Kong had to rescue Mario from Pauline.
But its for his daughter, whos a girl and presumably human. Pretty sure she'd identify with the girl character more over DK.
I'm sure it's very exciting for that little girl, I don't see what's interesting about it for us, though.

I also don't get why a character needs to be of your gender/race for you to be able to identify with. I played plenty of characters of different genders and races and I for me it had little to no effect.
It's probably because she's three years old and children are developmentally very egocentric. It could be legitimately more difficult for her to enjoy the game playing as a male character.
its obviously not just a thing among children, how many guys wouldnt play alice: the madness returns cause its got a heroine. female character to play, so it must be a girls game...
 

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FizzyIzze said:
I think it's kind of cool. No, I think it's VERY cool.
Agreed!

This is exactly the right sort of thing to be doing. There's no reason Jump Man needs to be the hero. Why not have a version where you choose which player - Jump Man or Pauline - to play? I too would pay money for that.
 

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Hixy said:
This has nothing to do with feminism at all, the little girl wanted to imagine herself in the game so he made that possible. It was a nice thing to do and we don't need it ruined by feminist bashing or by using it as another ''games are sexist'' thing. This thread is going to degrade fast.
Actually it does have to do with feminism.

It shows how easy it is to make the feminists (like me) happy.

Seriously, this is it. Just make an option to switch the sprites and you have solved all of our problems with that game. It is just that easy.
 

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How sweet. The modding scene is the best way for people who want things done, done. Learning to mod/model is quite hard, but it's definitely better than whining at the developer and arguing over years-old games (like DK) and accomplishes more. Because with modding, you can be anyone you want.

Jenvas1306 said:
its obviously not just a thing among children, how many guys wouldnt play alice: the madness returns cause its got a heroine. female character to play, so it must be a girls game...
None, I have literally never seen anyone complain that an Alice in Wonderland game had Alice as the PC. It's like complaining a Duke Nukem game didn't have Duke Nukem as the PC. Unless you can point me to any examples, I'm just gonna say you're making it up. Hell, the /v/ board on 4chan hates feminists and most women but they still put the first Alice game on most of their top 100 lists they make.
 

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Tenmar said:
I think my main gripe is just that this generation of "feminists" have lost their way and have forgotten that the point of feminism was the pursuit of equal rights under the law.
Nope, the point feminism of feminism was never "equal rights under the law". It was about equality in general, of which equal rights under the law is only a part.

OT: Nice. Always wanted to learn how to hack roms and do cool stuff like this, but I have never really cared enough to look it up. XD
 

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ToastiestZombie said:
How sweet. The modding scene is the best way for people who want things done, done. Learning to mod/model is quite hard, but it's definitely better than whining at the developer and arguing over years-old games (like DK) and accomplishes more. Because with modding, you can be anyone you want.

Jenvas1306 said:
its obviously not just a thing among children, how many guys wouldnt play alice: the madness returns cause its got a heroine. female character to play, so it must be a girls game...
None, I have literally never seen anyone complain that an Alice in Wonderland game had Alice as the PC. It's like complaining a Duke Nukem game didn't have Duke Nukem as the PC. Unless you can point me to any examples, I'm just gonna say you're making it up. Hell, the /v/ board on 4chan hates feminists and most women but they still put the first Alice game on most of their top 100 lists they make.
I have no statistics to base than on, I just know a few examples of that in person. So I would assume that they arent the only ones.
But those guys are anyways a little backwards so its quite possible that I'm more on the wrong side with that and in that case I will boldly use it as an example that having a female PC doesnt push down the sales!
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
Hixy said:
This has nothing to do with feminism at all, the little girl wanted to imagine herself in the game so he made that possible. It was a nice thing to do and we don't need it ruined by feminist bashing or by using it as another ''games are sexist'' thing. This thread is going to degrade fast.
Actually it does have to do with feminism.

It shows how easy it is to make the feminists (like me) happy.

Seriously, this is it. Just make an option to switch the sprites and you have solved all of our problems with that game. It is just that easy.
It really isn't that easy in any modern, 3D game. A female's shape is very different compared to a man's shape, so it requires them to change or redo every single animation and create new models, hitboxes and more. Did you know it cost around a million dollars for them to make a single character in SF4? I agree that they should add more in, but it really isn't as easy as modding a 30 year old game to change the sprites around.