Dad Blames Microsoft for Son's Xbox Live Spending Spree

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Clearing the Eye

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Gearhead mk2 said:
Why aren't IQ tests mandatory for parents yet?
Because one's I.Q. has no bearing on their ability to parent--or anything else, for that matter. It's a number arrogant twats like to parade around to make themselves feel big.
 

JET1971

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Anyone else notice the source of the article? known untrustworthy source thats as bad if not worse than Fox news?
 

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Grey Carter said:
"He didn't realize it was costing real money," Ghera told the Daily Mail.
>Turn on XB360
>Go to buy some MS Points
>Dollar values of all purchasable point amounts is clearly displayed.

Grey Carter said:
Sam Ghera has sent a complaint to Microsoft after discovering his 12-year-old son, Nik, had been spending up to £100 a day on "Fifa and Call of Duty," racking up a total bill of £1,150 over six months. Ghera only found out about the numerous charges to his credit card when he went to an ATM, only to be told he had insufficient funds to make a withdrawal.
That's about $1,800 in USD. How do you even spend that much on DLC for two games? I know those Cawadoody maps are overpriced, but they shouldn't set you back more than $150. I assume the rest is for the Divegrass Simulator, since I know from my own experience with the NHL series that EA tries to sell you lots of little player power ups for small prices. For that kind of cash, he must have really 'roided up his team. How he managed to get so many enhancements without realizing he was spending real world currency is a mystery. Either he honestly never knew, or he did and decided to play stupid when his dad caught him.
 

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Boo on the father for being a careless ignorant douche and boo on microsoft for being munny grubbing bastards who will gladly play off of ignorance and carelessness for some easy undeserved money.
 

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Love how the white knights rush in to defend their beloved game industry. I also love how majority of posters stating how the kid shouldn't be playing COD when I'm quite sure they played GTA as a minor.
 

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Survey Says...Bad Parenting.

I mean really, he bought his 12 year old Call of Duty and gave him a subscription to go play online and then, what, never monitored his kid or asked about what he was doing ever again? Further it appears this very responsible citizen doesn't keep track of the spending on his credit card since it took weeks for him to notice and only found out at an ATM.

Here's the thing: I'm not going to say kids under 17 shouldn't ever ever play M rated games. I played them when I was a kid (of course, at that time there wasn't online gaming and you weren't throwing a kid into a community of older players who would teach him a bunch of new words and concepts that would later get him in trouble at school, which the parent would then also complain about). The major difference is, before i was ever allowed to play an M game, my dad played it first. He would play through the game and when he was done he decided if he felt I was mature enough for the concepts in the game. Further, he'd often sit with me while I played newer games for a while. Because he's a parent, and he bought me and my brothers video games so we could have fun, not so he didn't have to parent us.
 

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Because most parents think that their children can "handle it", that just THEIR children are "mature enough". Hell, my dad took me to his work back in the early 90's, and while he worked (he was a network technician for a university) I was allowed to sit in the computer-lab and play Doom. I was 9, I think.

Now, if said game had been CoD, I doubt he would have reacted any differently. Why would he? To them, It's a game. You know, game? Fun? Hahaha? And I partially agree. Sure, some things might be inappropriate for a child, but that depends on how mature such child is. I hate to cite anecdotal information as some sort of proof but..Look at me? Been playing violent videogames all my life, and no worse off. So SOME clearly can handle it..

On a related note: When I first got my XBL-account, I needed my dads creditcard. I was 16, and my dad was outraged (and eventually called Microsoft support, located in another country even). Not because I wanted to play Ghost Recon 2 online, but because he was afraid that Microsoft would store his creditcard-information and some hacker would manage to steal it.
Heh.

In the end, I got my own credit-card (couldn't rack up more debt than I had cash,though) and was told that how I wanted to waste my own money was my problem.

So honestly, if I believe my child to be able to handle Call of Duty XXVI (You know there will be one) when he is 14, then I will let him play it. I might of course be wrong, but I doubt it will turn him into a murderer. Might give him nightmares, though.
Also, I'll explain a few things first.
i really don't think playing shooters turns your kid into a violent psychopath, i myself played a lot of quake when i was a kid and the corpses in my basement keep telling me that's not the reason.
i just don't think children should play online MP, especially in shooters. if your 12 year old is mature enough to play cod fine and if you think playing co-op with your child is good idea please do so but letting them play random pickup shooter MP unsupervised? no, not because of the game but because of the scum that tends to be attracted to online fps.

also: it probably will not be cod XXVI but cod pink future ops warfare 3, they really are afraid of the number 4
 

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Dipshit parent is Dipshit.

I mean, firstly you don't allow young kids onto games severely under age for their understanding. I first played COD4(16) when I was 14. I was a quite mature kid comparatively as well. However I was not given a headset and allowed an unlimited ability to talk to others across the Internet with no rules in place what so ever... 12 is too young for a start. Then an xbla for a child... with a registered copy of call of duty... what... the... fuck... you sir have just lost the argument.

Clearly you didn't miss all that money until now so how about your bill gets rounded down to £1,000 and you can call yourself lucky...
 

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It's your kid you dumb fuck. You bought him the console, you payed for Live and you weren't a good enough parent. Now suffer financial consequences.
 

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Kid didn't know it was real money he was spending...... so what did he think he was spending?

It's the father's fault, as he should of been keeping an eye on his kid, yeah the kid shouldn't of spend all that money in the first place, but father should of taught him better.
I knew my parents credit card when I was younger but I never spent any money without permission as I knew it would only effect me in the long run.
 

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It's a common trend these days for parents at fault to try and blame others for their ignorance and/or stupidity. This case is no different. Had the parent followed the guidelines in creating an account for his kid, not to mention allowing a 12 y/o to play COD in the first place, he wouldn't have suffered the consequences.

Maybe he'll learn and grow from this experience. Or maybe he'll just take the route his kind are used to and sue Microsoft.
 

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FUCK. 6 months and you do NOT look at a credit card statement? This is not JUST a case of bad parenting, it is a MAJOR case of retardism.
 

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teebeeohh said:
WHY THE FUCK is nobody bothered that the kid plays cod?
I'm bothered because I'd rather see him playing a better series. If you're referring to a 12 year old playing an M-rated series though, I was playing games that would be rated M now, and watching R-rated action and horror movies by the time I was 9 or 10. While some parents let their young children play games that may not be appropriate for them without ever giving enough of a shit to think about what their kids are playing first, some kids are mature enough to play those games as my parents felt I was. So my default assumption isn't to immediately assume the parent is simply a bad parent because they let their kid play these games. Despite plenty of evidence that this guy didn't think everything through 100% when setting up the account.
 

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Eri said:
As usual, completely the parents fault.

Also the kid is retarded for thinking it didn't actually cost money despite the system telling him it did. I know I was fairly dumb at 12, but certainly not to that extent.
Somehow, I doubt he genuinely thought that.

He probably feigned ignorance to avoid the inevitable (and deserved) punishment. If I'd spent £1000 of my parent's money as a kid, I'm fairly certain I'd have been grounded, with dog kennel cleaning duty for an entire year.
 

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Parent blames company for his 12 year old son not knowing what an online shop is or what a pound symbol looks like/is.

Oh look, Daily Mail. Well, I never...
 

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Clearing the Eye said:
Gearhead mk2 said:
Why aren't IQ tests mandatory for parents yet?
Because one's I.Q. has no bearing on their ability to parent--or anything else, for that matter. It's a number arrogant twats like to parade around to make themselves feel big.
True, that's why we should implement a Parent Aptitude Test (I call him Pat, for short) that would use a series of hypothetical situations and financial/employment analysis to determine whether or not someone is fit to be a parent.

For example:
You are at the supermarket with your six year old kid. He is screaming the roof down, knocking shit off the shelf and generally being an insufferable little dicksplash. Do you...
A)Start screaming back at him to 'fucking behave yourself, you little prick.'
B)Calmly pull him to one side and tell him this kind of behaviour is unacceptable.
C)Completely ignore him and continue deciding what brand of cheap liquor you want to get shit-faced on this evening.
 

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rob_simple said:
Clearing the Eye said:
Gearhead mk2 said:
Why aren't IQ tests mandatory for parents yet?
Because one's I.Q. has no bearing on their ability to parent--or anything else, for that matter. It's a number arrogant twats like to parade around to make themselves feel big.
True, that's why we should implement a Parent Aptitude Test (I call him Pat, for short) that would use a series of hypothetical situations and financial/employment analysis to determine whether or not someone is fit to be a parent.

For example:
You are at the supermarket with your six year old kid. He is screaming the roof down, knocking shit off the shelf and generally being an insufferable little dicksplash. Do you...
A)Start screaming back at him to 'fucking behave yourself, you little prick.'
B)Calmly pull him to one side and tell him this kind of behaviour is unacceptable.
C)Completely ignore him and continue deciding what brand of cheap liquor you want to get shit-faced on this evening.
The answer is C, right?