;PGrey Carter said:Ghera entered his credit card details into Xbox Live in order to pay the monthly subscription fee, but he didn't release that the service automatically retains your credit card details for later purchases.
LEARN TO SPELL.zombiesinc said:Seriously?
Be a parent. I'm really sick of listening to so many parents' excuses these days. They throw their kid(s) in front of a TV, tell them to entertain themselves but the moment anything goes wrong or in a direction they don't like, rather than take responsibility for their laziness they blame anyone and everyone else. Sick, just sick.
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Yeah, none of these people saying "why is a kid playing COD" waited to played M rated games nor did they wait to watch R rated movies or listen to CD's with explicit lyrics. Bunch of phonies I say. They claim to hate it when things like this happen but deep down they can't wait for the opportunity to bash parents. I'll bet most of them aren't parents and have no concept of parenthood.Hiroshi Mishima said:Anyways, the only thing that really shocks me is how many people are surprised (or offended) that the kid was playing Call of Duty.
As someone said "did everyone wait til they were 18 for DOOM?" Well, I sure didn't. I was playing Resident Evil in high school, too. Hell, my mom enjoyed watching me play it because she likes zombies and horror movies. She's also a big fan of DOOM and did actually pick up the DOOM collectors edition set of discs one year from a Walmart somewhere cause she knew I had played the games when I was younger. Of course, I was in my 20's by then, so this was more of a happy surprise than anything else.
But yeah, "just saiyan."
Is your name Ken? I hope your name is Ken, Ken!Crono1973 said:LEARN TO SPELL.
I didn't say I was sick of reading these stories, I said I was sick of parents using anything and/or everything as an excuse, rather than take responsibility.You aren't sick of hearing about stories like this or you wouldn't have even clicked on thread, much less posted in it.
See, see?! <3zombiesinc said:I'm really sick of listening to so many parents' excuses these days.
Because most parents think that their children can "handle it", that just THEIR children are "mature enough". Hell, my dad took me to his work back in the early 90's, and while he worked (he was a network technician for a university) I was allowed to sit in the computer-lab and play Doom. I was 9, I think.teebeeohh said:maybe i am just stupid or retarded or really really naive but i just don't get how people can think a game where you shoot people in the head with more or less accurate depictions of modern weapons is something a child should play.KeyMaster45 said:Because we know it happens due to parents who are under the assumption that all games are appropriate for children, and that it's not their responsibility to make sure what their kid is playing actually is. Plus the stereotypical player of CoD, MWF, or Battlefield on the 360 is a 13 year old brat shouting obscenities and racial slurs over the microphone. Hell, just the other day I was talking with a guy while in line at Gamestop and he was telling me how he and his wife felt their 11 and 9 year old sons were old enough to be playing CoD. It took every ounce of restraint I had to not tell him otherwise. What's sad is that it's those kinds of parents who end up in situations like this and also blame games when their kid grows up to be a rampaging asshole.teebeeohh said:WHY THE FUCK is nobody bothered that the kid plays cod?
Well, you wouldn't have to READ those excuses if you wouldn't come into the thread. If you were really so sick of READING those excuses, then why are you here?zombiesinc said:Is your name Ken? I hope your name is Ken, Ken!Crono1973 said:LEARN TO SPELL.
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I didn't say I was sick of reading these stories, I said I was sick of parents using anything and/or everything as an excuse, rather than take responsibility.You aren't sick of hearing about stories like this or you wouldn't have even clicked on thread, much less posted in it.
See, see?! <3zombiesinc said:I'm really sick of listening to so many parents' excuses these days.
I feel like you're focusing on the really trivial shit here.Crono1973 said:Well, you wouldn't have to READ those excuses if you wouldn't come into the thread. If you were really so sick of READING those excuses, then why are you here?
I am not offended but I do root for the underdog. I am sick of parents being blamed for everything kids do because the very people doing the blaming were once kids as well and they know that kids go out of their way to keep parents in the dark.zombiesinc said:I feel like you're focusing on the really trivial shit here.Crono1973 said:Well, you wouldn't have to READ those excuses if you wouldn't come into the thread. If you were really so sick of READING those excuses, then why are you here?
Do you care to know why I'm sick of listening to/hearing/reading/deciphering/translating this sort of shit? Or would you rather go on believing I'm somehow anti-parent and (possibly) therefore, anti-you?[footnote]I could be wrong but you're giving me the impression that you're personally offended by what I said[/footnote]
GameStop employee here. Funny you should mention that. It's no secret that we can't sell a game to someone who looks younger than 17 years old without their ID. So whenever a parent is clearly buying a M rated game for their kid, we have to ask something like "Are you okay with the M rating of this game because it contains violence, blood and gore and strong language?". Now, here's the funny part. Parents nod at me with the most boring look on their faces as if saying "Yeah, yeah. Just gimme the damn game".KeyMaster45 said:Because we know it happens due to parents who are under the assumption that all games are appropriate for children, and that it's not their responsibility to make sure what their kid is playing actually is. Plus the stereotypical player of CoD, MWF, or Battlefield on the 360 is a 13 year old brat shouting obscenities and racial slurs over the microphone. Hell, just the other day I was talking with a guy while in line at Gamestop and he was telling me how he and his wife felt their 11 and 9 year old sons were old enough to be playing CoD. It took every ounce of restraint I had to not tell him otherwise. What's sad is that it's those kinds of parents who end up in situations like this and also blame games when their kid grows up to be a rampaging asshole.teebeeohh said:WHY THE FUCK is nobody bothered that the kid plays cod?
You got me there. Let's see, if it's CoD, he could have got Elite...which is about 50 bucks. Then, I'll assume he wasn't just playing one CoD? (The article never specified that). So he could have got some map packs for Blops, which is $75 for all of them. Uhh...I don't know if you can rebuy them once you've already bought them before. I'm guessing no, so okay.glitch388 said:So, as someone who doesn't play CoD or FIFA, I must ask. What on earth could that boy have spent £1,150 on? As in, what does it actually go to?
It's not always the parents fault, I absolutely agree. In this case, we certainly don't know enough to be certain either. I was just relating this situation to others that I felt were similar and happened to fall directly on the parents' lack of care, inability to take responsibility or just general laziness. That doesn't mean I believe it's always the parents fault or that all parents are this way, I do try to avoid mass generalizations and making myself out to look extremely ignorant.Crono1973 said:I am not offended but I do root for the underdog. I am sick of parents being blamed for everything kids do because the very people doing the blaming were once kids as well and they know that kids go out of their way to keep parents in the dark.
I am also sick of men getting blamed for everything too so if you were blaming men, I would say something too.
It's cultural, violence is ok but sex isn't. Other cultures see it the other way around. When in Rome...Beautiful End said:*Sigh*
-MONITOR YOUR OWN ACCOUNT! I don't even trust my friends using my account because I know I have my info linked to it. And my friends aren't even morons!
-Check your account more often?
-Give your damn kid a children's account to avoid that.
-Inform yourself before letting your kid be a retard and fuck with the xbox.
-And finally, shows how much he cares about his kid.
Maybe it's just me but if I had been that kid and for whatever reason my mom's credit card was linked and I know that and I'm 12 years old, no matter how tempting it would be to buy all sorts of DLC for my game, I wouldn't dare because I know my mom would eventually find out and she would eventually slap the shit out of me. Also, I'd know it's not good to buy all of the things in the world with someone else's money.
So yeah, both are morons. The father deserves to have his xbox locked/banned/whatever and the kid deserves to repay his father for whatever he spent.[GameStop employee here. Funny you should mention that. It's no secret that we can't sell a game to someone who looks younger than 17 years old without their ID. So whenever a parent is clearly buying a M rated game for their kid, we have to ask something like "Are you okay with the M rating of this game because it contains violence, blood and gore and strong language?". Now, here's the funny part. Parents nod at me with the most boring look on their faces as if saying "Yeah, yeah. Just gimme the damn game".KeyMaster45 said:Because we know it happens due to parents who are under the assumption that all games are appropriate for children, and that it's not their responsibility to make sure what their kid is playing actually is. Plus the stereotypical player of CoD, MWF, or Battlefield on the 360 is a 13 year old brat shouting obscenities and racial slurs over the microphone. Hell, just the other day I was talking with a guy while in line at Gamestop and he was telling me how he and his wife felt their 11 and 9 year old sons were old enough to be playing CoD. It took every ounce of restraint I had to not tell him otherwise. What's sad is that it's those kinds of parents who end up in situations like this and also blame games when their kid grows up to be a rampaging asshole.teebeeohh said:WHY THE FUCK is nobody bothered that the kid plays cod?
There's the rare scenario where the parent hesitates for a moment, then the kid intervenes and says he's played the game at his friend's house/his brother has it/it's not that bad and the parent buys the story. Only about 10% of the parents are genuinely surprised and put the game back, no matter if it's CoD or AC. Out of those remaining 90%, only around 20% ask something like "Oh, blood and gore is okay. But...does it have sexual stuff?". A game rarely has explicit sex scenes. It's usually provocative clothing or situations or sutff like that, so I reply with that (Depending on the game). Once they convince themselves that the game isn't gonna turn into a porn, they happily agree to buy the game.
Oh, and about 5% of all those guys overall come back days later complaining about the game being too strong for their kid and claiming we didn't warn them, trying to make us look bad to get their money back.
So...yeah, blood, gore, violence and bad words are fine...but not sexual scenes. Maker forbid those.
Anyway, personally (and I guess I was a geek), I don't remember playing a M rated game until I was 15/16, and even then I was hesitant. I felt dirty and guilty. And a bit scared (It was DMC1). And I would have never considered picking up verbal fights with strangers because that just was pointless and rude.
Yeah, maybe it was just me.