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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

Drama queen father films shooting drama queen daughter's laptop and posts it to Youtube. How is this worst than the majority of redneck gun wank that's already on Youtube?
 

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Ramzal said:
senordesol said:
Ramzal said:
I believe it's an issue because so many people agree with the method he used. A gun is flat out a lethal tool. No one was in danger nor was he protecting anyone or himself. The fact that so many find this acceptable is deplorable. So we use lethal weapons and tools now to prove a point? And at worse, it's childish? Why don't we fire a nuclear weapon into an unpopulated area to show North Korea that we aren't accepting their terms of testing nuclear weapons.

I can understand a blunt object not being as bad or a hammer, or running it over with a car. Granted that all of the above can be lethal, but they weren't made with lethal intent. Honestly, I find as many people as I saw agreeing with this method disturbing. Borderline frightening.
We've tested plenty of nukes in unpopulated areas so...yeah...we did that.

Second, why does the fact that the weapon being a 'lethal tool' have any bearing whatsoever? I've shot paper targets, soda cans, and beer bottles with firearms; what makes a laptop any different? He selected his target area so that there would be no collateral damage and chose his ammunition for same.


I'm not saying firing at an object is wrong. He's discharging it simply out of anger at his daughter. It's one thing to do something like that for practice, or even as a hobby. This was done out of anger. A gun should not be used like that.
It was done in a manner that was sufficiently controlled. Maybe he was angry, but it doesn't matter if he was. What matters is that his anger was well enough controlled that he did that stupid show in a safe manner.

Don't be stupid. Firing a nuclear weapon has actual consequences. Like nuclear fallout. Also it provokes even if it didn't have such consequences. What was the harm in him doing it? You're complaining out of some kind of misguided outrage it sounds like. There are no consequences except the laptop is destroyed. You haven't provided anything solid.
And if he were drunk, would you still have that same opinion?
No because being drunk is not a state to do anything remotely dangerous in.

People have been killed because of misused of a firearm under anger and rage.
And? He clearly wasn't out of control.

How is this leading by example for his child? "If you're mad, or you need to prove a point, go shoot something?"
Stop playing stupid. No one's going to learn that from it anymore than they're going to learn to kill people from a game. The difference between shooting a laptop in a controlled situation and shooting whatever is bothering you at the moment is obvious.

And yes, my example is strong but it has a point.
Your example was weak as hell. I tore it apart, it doesn't compare at all.

You shouldn't use something lethal to prove a point.
Congratulations on not proving that point. I pointed out the real reason it wouldn't be used instead of the reason you want to pretend it wouldn't occur.

I'm sorry, did you say "misguided?" I've learned my discipline with weapons and firearms from the U.S. Navy as well as martial arts.
Ooooh now I'm going to agree with you. Oh wait I'm not. Idgaf where you learned it, that doesn't make your stupid outrage any less misguided. You have NOT answered where the real consequences are. We just have a paper thin argument that it'll teach kids the wrong idea.

Both taught that it is not--by any means, right to use a weapon to prove a point.
I don't care. I don't take people's words for such things.

You are arguing from a point of consequence, many crimes come without proper consequence, does that make them alright? People lose their homes and lives due to corporate interest, does that make it alright?
If people are losing their homes there's a fucking consequence. Now come back with a bit more integrity instead of dishonest questions like those.
I'm sorry but I'm about to give a quintessentially British BUT what the actual fuck!?! Guns should never ever be used for something like this, this shows the trivialisation of firearms in United States specifically, he was using the gun like a toy; a fucking toy! He could have smashed the laptop with a hammer, that's all cool. The hammer isn't going to misfire and there's no chance of a bullet of ricocheting off a hidden rock and injuring or killing somebody. This has happened, there's the World War 2 story of a guard firing a warning shot into the ground to stop a kid who was unknowingly cycling into a munitions factory, the round ricocheted off a rock and hit the kid in the back, he died instantly.

Also he's doing all of this in a public area! You can see the road for Christ's sake, you cannot honestly say that this is a safe use of a firearm? I know lets go around using guns to prove every point we make, I'll just fire a couple of bullets into a wall every time I'm slightly irate.

The man is a danger to society and his family, he shouldn't be allowed a gun license....
 

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he was right to punish his daughter for what she thinks maybe firing an entire round was a bit extreme could've just sold it or thrown it away but he was right for most htings in the video
 

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FelixG said:
DragonLord Seth said:
O NOEZ PEEPUL HAV GUNZ! THER GON DESTROY DA CIVELEYEZD WURLD!
Its amazing how some foolish people think like that isn't it?

"GASP GUNS R EVILZ~!!"
A gun is not evil, but I don't think this guy has done responsible users, advocates and harmless collectors/admirers of firearms any favours.

I can't comment on how safely he physically handled the gun; but I think his reasoning behind using it was severely out of whack.
 

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Actually it is a right in America and that's not going to be changed so you're wrong ;)

Though I agree it was wrong to use a .45 like I said in the other thread. A 12 gauge with buckshot would've been about 20% cooler

Pretty sure mentally ill can't own gun legally.
 

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KnowYourOnion said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
Ramzal said:
senordesol said:
Ramzal said:
I believe it's an issue because so many people agree with the method he used. A gun is flat out a lethal tool. No one was in danger nor was he protecting anyone or himself. The fact that so many find this acceptable is deplorable. So we use lethal weapons and tools now to prove a point? And at worse, it's childish? Why don't we fire a nuclear weapon into an unpopulated area to show North Korea that we aren't accepting their terms of testing nuclear weapons.

I can understand a blunt object not being as bad or a hammer, or running it over with a car. Granted that all of the above can be lethal, but they weren't made with lethal intent. Honestly, I find as many people as I saw agreeing with this method disturbing. Borderline frightening.
We've tested plenty of nukes in unpopulated areas so...yeah...we did that.

Second, why does the fact that the weapon being a 'lethal tool' have any bearing whatsoever? I've shot paper targets, soda cans, and beer bottles with firearms; what makes a laptop any different? He selected his target area so that there would be no collateral damage and chose his ammunition for same.


I'm not saying firing at an object is wrong. He's discharging it simply out of anger at his daughter. It's one thing to do something like that for practice, or even as a hobby. This was done out of anger. A gun should not be used like that.
It was done in a manner that was sufficiently controlled. Maybe he was angry, but it doesn't matter if he was. What matters is that his anger was well enough controlled that he did that stupid show in a safe manner.

Don't be stupid. Firing a nuclear weapon has actual consequences. Like nuclear fallout. Also it provokes even if it didn't have such consequences. What was the harm in him doing it? You're complaining out of some kind of misguided outrage it sounds like. There are no consequences except the laptop is destroyed. You haven't provided anything solid.
And if he were drunk, would you still have that same opinion?
No because being drunk is not a state to do anything remotely dangerous in.

People have been killed because of misused of a firearm under anger and rage.
And? He clearly wasn't out of control.

How is this leading by example for his child? "If you're mad, or you need to prove a point, go shoot something?"
Stop playing stupid. No one's going to learn that from it anymore than they're going to learn to kill people from a game. The difference between shooting a laptop in a controlled situation and shooting whatever is bothering you at the moment is obvious.

And yes, my example is strong but it has a point.
Your example was weak as hell. I tore it apart, it doesn't compare at all.

You shouldn't use something lethal to prove a point.
Congratulations on not proving that point. I pointed out the real reason it wouldn't be used instead of the reason you want to pretend it wouldn't occur.

I'm sorry, did you say "misguided?" I've learned my discipline with weapons and firearms from the U.S. Navy as well as martial arts.
Ooooh now I'm going to agree with you. Oh wait I'm not. Idgaf where you learned it, that doesn't make your stupid outrage any less misguided. You have NOT answered where the real consequences are. We just have a paper thin argument that it'll teach kids the wrong idea.

Both taught that it is not--by any means, right to use a weapon to prove a point.
I don't care. I don't take people's words for such things.

You are arguing from a point of consequence, many crimes come without proper consequence, does that make them alright? People lose their homes and lives due to corporate interest, does that make it alright?
If people are losing their homes there's a fucking consequence. Now come back with a bit more integrity instead of dishonest questions like those.
I'm sorry but I'm about to give a quintessentially British BUT what the actual fuck!?! Guns should never ever be used for something like this, this shows the trivialisation of firearms in United States specifically, he was using the gun like a toy; a fucking toy! He could have smashed the laptop with a hammer, that's all cool. The hammer isn't going to misfire and there's no chance of a bullet of ricocheting off a hidden rock and injuring or killing somebody. This has happened, there's the World War 2 story of a guard firing a warning shot into the ground to stop a kid who was unknowingly cycling into a munitions factory, the round ricocheted off a rock and hit the kid in the back, he died instantly.

Also he's doing all of this in a public area! You can see the road for Christ's sake, you cannot honestly say that this is a safe use of a firearm? I know lets go around using guns to prove every point we make, I'll just fire a couple of bullets into a wall every time I'm slightly irate.

The man is a danger to society and his family, he shouldn't be allowed a gun license....
Actually, he had a very wide open area to shoot in, he was shooting practically straight down, and he said IN THE VIDEO that he was using exploding hollow point bullets. Those do not ricochet. He was not raging, he was not drunk, I think he was quite controlled and reasonable.
 

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Dramerc said:
@all the liberls on here

Britain is in Chaos because of the unruly youth like her the riots and hell people being knifed kids needs to be hit it does them no harm aslong as they fully understand so he did the right thing in my mind cause the kid has to learn the hard way eventually this was the last straw she never listened or obeyed the rules she was warned time and time again that it'd be worse and she just had to have that go in conclusion she got what she bloody deserved and idc what the liberal wankers say the country is in hell cause of them
Oh, absolutely. Britain's in chaos because of all those unruly American children. Damn you Hannah, rebelling against your parents?! What new breed of teenager are you?! Without your skewed sense of entitlement we'd never have had the riots!
 

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Ziel said:
Dramerc said:
@all the liberls on here

Britain is in Chaos because of the unruly youth like her the riots and hell people being knifed kids needs to be hit it does them no harm aslong as they fully understand so he did the right thing in my mind cause the kid has to learn the hard way eventually this was the last straw she never listened or obeyed the rules she was warned time and time again that it'd be worse and she just had to have that go in conclusion she got what she bloody deserved and idc what the liberal wankers say the country is in hell cause of them
Oh, absolutely. Britain's in chaos because of all those unruly American children. Damn you Hannah, rebelling against your parents?! What new breed of teenager are you?! Without your skewed sense of entitlement we'd never have had the riots!

I never said it was completely her fault i said youth LIKE HER dont twist my words
 

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You people should go to this guy's Facebook profile: https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii

Media Response to Anita Li, from the Toronto Star

Since you took the time to email us with your requests like we asked, I?ll take the time to give you an honest follow-up response. You?ll have to forgive me for doing so publicly though; again I want to be sure my words are portrayed the way I actually say them, not cut together to make entirely different points.

Your questions were:
Q: Why did you decide to reprimand your daughter over a public medium like YouTube?

A: Well, I actually just had to load the video file itself on YouTube because it?s a better upload process than Facebook, but the intended audience was her Facebook friends and the parents of those friends who saw her post and would naturally assume we let our children get away with something like that. So, to answer ?Why did you reprimand her over a public medium like Facebook? my answer is this: Because that?s how I was raised. If I did something embarrassing to my parents in public (such as a grocery store) I got my tail tore up right there in front of God and everyone, right there in the store. I put the reprisal in exactly the same medium she did, in the exact same manner. Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people? originally. I had no idea it would become what it did.

Q: How effective do you think your punishment was (i.e. shooting her laptop and reading her letter online)?

A: I think it was very effective on one front. She apparently didn?t remember being talked to about previous incidents, nor did she seem to remember the effects of having it taken away, nor did the eventual long-term grounding seem to get through to her. I think she thought ?Well, I?ll just wait it out and I?ll get it back eventually.? Her behavior corrected for a short time, and then it went back to what it was before and worse. This time, she won?t ever forget and it?ll be a long time before she has an opportunity to post on Facebook again. I feel pretty certain that every day from then to now, whenever one of her friends mentions Facebook, she?ll remember it and wish she hadn?t done what she did.

The second lesson I want her to learn is the value of a dollar. We don?t give her everything she asks for, but you can all imagine what it?s like being the only grandchild and the first child. Presents and money come from all sides when you?re young. Most of the things she has that are ?cool? were bought or gifted that way. She?s always asked for very few things, but they?re always high-dollar things (iPod, laptop, smartphone, etc). Eventually she gets given enough money to get them. That?s not learning the value of a dollar. Its knowing how to save money, which I greatly applaud in her, but it?s not enough. She wants a digital SLR camera. She wants a 22 rifle like mine. She wants a car. She wants a smart phone with a data package and unlimited texting. (I have to hear about that one every week!)

She thinks all these things are supposed to be given to her because she?s got parents. It?s not going to happen, at least not in our house. She can get a job and work for money just like everyone else. Then she can spend it on anything she wants (within reason). If she wants to work for two months to save enough to purchase a $1000 SLR camera with an $800 lens, then I can guarantee she?ll NEVER leave it outside at night. She?ll be careful when she puts it away and carries it around. She?ll value it much more because she worked so hard to get it. Instead, with the current way things have been given to her, she's on about her fourth phone and just expects another one when she breaks the one she has. She's not sorry about breaking it, or losing it, she's sorry only because she can't text her friends. I firmly believe she'll be a LOT more careful when she has to buy her own $299.00 Motorola Razr smartphone.

Until then, she can do chores, and lots and lots of them, so the people who ARE feeding her, clothing her, paying for all her school trips, paying for her musical instruments, can have some time to relax after they finish working to support her and the rest of the family. She can either work to make money on her own, or she will do chores to contribute around the house. She?s known all along that all she has to do is get a job and a lot of these chores will go away. But if you?re too lazy to work even to get things you want for yourself, I?m certainly not going to let you sit idly on your rear-end with your face glued to both the TV and Facebook for 5 to 6 hours per night. Those days are over.

Q: How did your daughter respond to the video and to what happened to her laptop?

A: She responded to the video with ?I can?t believe you shot my computer!? That was the first thing she said when she found out about it. Then we sat and we talked for quite a long while on the back patio about the things she did, the things I did in response, etc.

Later after she?d had time to process it and I?d had time to process her thoughts on the matters we discussed, we were back to a semi-truce? you know that uncomfortable moment when you?re in the kitchen with your child after an argument and you?re both waiting to see which one?s going to cave in and resume normal conversation first? Yeah, that moment. I told her about the video response and about it going viral and about the consequences it could have on our family for the next couple of days and asked if she wanted to see some of the comments people had made. After the first few hundred comments, she was astounded with the responses.

People were telling her she was going to commit suicide, commit a gun-related crime, become a drug addict, drop out of school, get pregnant on purpose, and become a stripper because she?s too emotionally damaged now to be a productive member of society. Apparently stripper was the job-choice of most of the commenters. Her response was ?Dude? it?s only a computer. I mean, yeah I?m mad but pfft.? She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other job fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasn?t too keen on the stripping thing.

We agreed we learned two collective lessons from this so far:

First: As her father, I?ll definitely do what I say I will, both positive and negative and she can depend on that. She no longer has any doubt about that.

Second: We have always told her what you put online can affect you forever. Years later a single Facebook/MySpace/Twitter comment can affect her eligibility for a good job and can even get her fired from a job she already has. She?s seen first-hand through this video the worst possible scenario that can happen. One post, made by her Dad, will probably follow him the rest of his life; just like those mean things she said on Facebook will stick with the people her words hurt for a long time to come. Once you put it out there, you can?t take it back, so think carefully before you use the internet to broadcast your thoughts and feelings.

I agree with this guy's actions. He has great values that he does his best to live up to. He dialogues with his daughter, unlike what some of you hate-mongering knee-jerkers like to assume (and then state as fact).
He makes a lot of good arguments on his Timeline, read them and be convinced that this isn't some gun-totin' rampaging psychopath - this is just a normal (if somewhat old-fashioned, as he says himself) guy trying to raise his children into productive members of society.
 

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He could have used an axe, bent the laptop or something that doesn't involve a gun. Using a gun has something iconic. The act of firing it is violent on its own, whereas breaking the laptop with a hammer isn't exactly the same. I'd cringe at that the same way, but using a gun just feels wrong.

Then again, that is a spoiled brat (I don't know if brat is offensive as a word; sorry for my English)
 

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While I don't agree with his methods I wouldn't condemn him either. You say how he did this out of anger, but even then, he kept it under better control than a lot of people do when this angry. He showed better control and understanding of a firearm than most people I know.

Also, all the comments about people wanting more firearm control and repealing the right to bare arms because of this make me upset. If you want to give up your rights then fine, but don't expect it of everyone. Americans have been too relaxed about government infringing on our rights for long enough.
 

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knhirt said:
You people should go to this guy's Facebook profile: https://www.facebook.com/tommyjordaniii

Media Response to Anita Li, from the Toronto Star

Since you took the time to email us with your requests like we asked, I?ll take the time to give you an honest follow-up response. You?ll have to forgive me for doing so publicly though; again I want to be sure my words are portrayed the way I actually say them, not cut together to make entirely different points.

Your questions were:
Q: Why did you decide to reprimand your daughter over a public medium like YouTube?

A: Well, I actually just had to load the video file itself on YouTube because it?s a better upload process than Facebook, but the intended audience was her Facebook friends and the parents of those friends who saw her post and would naturally assume we let our children get away with something like that. So, to answer ?Why did you reprimand her over a public medium like Facebook? my answer is this: Because that?s how I was raised. If I did something embarrassing to my parents in public (such as a grocery store) I got my tail tore up right there in front of God and everyone, right there in the store. I put the reprisal in exactly the same medium she did, in the exact same manner. Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people? originally. I had no idea it would become what it did.

Q: How effective do you think your punishment was (i.e. shooting her laptop and reading her letter online)?

A: I think it was very effective on one front. She apparently didn?t remember being talked to about previous incidents, nor did she seem to remember the effects of having it taken away, nor did the eventual long-term grounding seem to get through to her. I think she thought ?Well, I?ll just wait it out and I?ll get it back eventually.? Her behavior corrected for a short time, and then it went back to what it was before and worse. This time, she won?t ever forget and it?ll be a long time before she has an opportunity to post on Facebook again. I feel pretty certain that every day from then to now, whenever one of her friends mentions Facebook, she?ll remember it and wish she hadn?t done what she did.

The second lesson I want her to learn is the value of a dollar. We don?t give her everything she asks for, but you can all imagine what it?s like being the only grandchild and the first child. Presents and money come from all sides when you?re young. Most of the things she has that are ?cool? were bought or gifted that way. She?s always asked for very few things, but they?re always high-dollar things (iPod, laptop, smartphone, etc). Eventually she gets given enough money to get them. That?s not learning the value of a dollar. Its knowing how to save money, which I greatly applaud in her, but it?s not enough. She wants a digital SLR camera. She wants a 22 rifle like mine. She wants a car. She wants a smart phone with a data package and unlimited texting. (I have to hear about that one every week!)

She thinks all these things are supposed to be given to her because she?s got parents. It?s not going to happen, at least not in our house. She can get a job and work for money just like everyone else. Then she can spend it on anything she wants (within reason). If she wants to work for two months to save enough to purchase a $1000 SLR camera with an $800 lens, then I can guarantee she?ll NEVER leave it outside at night. She?ll be careful when she puts it away and carries it around. She?ll value it much more because she worked so hard to get it. Instead, with the current way things have been given to her, she's on about her fourth phone and just expects another one when she breaks the one she has. She's not sorry about breaking it, or losing it, she's sorry only because she can't text her friends. I firmly believe she'll be a LOT more careful when she has to buy her own $299.00 Motorola Razr smartphone.

Until then, she can do chores, and lots and lots of them, so the people who ARE feeding her, clothing her, paying for all her school trips, paying for her musical instruments, can have some time to relax after they finish working to support her and the rest of the family. She can either work to make money on her own, or she will do chores to contribute around the house. She?s known all along that all she has to do is get a job and a lot of these chores will go away. But if you?re too lazy to work even to get things you want for yourself, I?m certainly not going to let you sit idly on your rear-end with your face glued to both the TV and Facebook for 5 to 6 hours per night. Those days are over.

Q: How did your daughter respond to the video and to what happened to her laptop?

A: She responded to the video with ?I can?t believe you shot my computer!? That was the first thing she said when she found out about it. Then we sat and we talked for quite a long while on the back patio about the things she did, the things I did in response, etc.

Later after she?d had time to process it and I?d had time to process her thoughts on the matters we discussed, we were back to a semi-truce? you know that uncomfortable moment when you?re in the kitchen with your child after an argument and you?re both waiting to see which one?s going to cave in and resume normal conversation first? Yeah, that moment. I told her about the video response and about it going viral and about the consequences it could have on our family for the next couple of days and asked if she wanted to see some of the comments people had made. After the first few hundred comments, she was astounded with the responses.

People were telling her she was going to commit suicide, commit a gun-related crime, become a drug addict, drop out of school, get pregnant on purpose, and become a stripper because she?s too emotionally damaged now to be a productive member of society. Apparently stripper was the job-choice of most of the commenters. Her response was ?Dude? it?s only a computer. I mean, yeah I?m mad but pfft.? She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other job fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasn?t too keen on the stripping thing.

We agreed we learned two collective lessons from this so far:

First: As her father, I?ll definitely do what I say I will, both positive and negative and she can depend on that. She no longer has any doubt about that.

Second: We have always told her what you put online can affect you forever. Years later a single Facebook/MySpace/Twitter comment can affect her eligibility for a good job and can even get her fired from a job she already has. She?s seen first-hand through this video the worst possible scenario that can happen. One post, made by her Dad, will probably follow him the rest of his life; just like those mean things she said on Facebook will stick with the people her words hurt for a long time to come. Once you put it out there, you can?t take it back, so think carefully before you use the internet to broadcast your thoughts and feelings.

I agree with this guy's actions. He has great values that he does his best to live up to. He dialogues with his daughter, unlike what some of you hate-mongering knee-jerkers like to assume (and then state as fact).
He makes a lot of good arguments on his Timeline, read them and be convinced that this isn't some gun-totin' rampaging psychopath - this is just a normal (if somewhat old-fashioned, as he says himself) guy trying to raise his children into productive members of society.
I did read most of that; again I don't much issue with the man's intention to discipline an unruly child, I just think the method was piss poor and juvenille. Mind you, can't fault his integrity and savvy when dealing the media reaction to this. Also, that looks like a spiffing M4 Rifle he owns (or at least uses): I am very jelly of that :p
 

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mad825 said:
Eh, I would've done a similar thing. I would clout a few arrow/bolts into it and I'll be more indiscriminate by using broad-tips. Even if I didn't have a bow/crossbow, I would've used a sledgehammer or similar hitting tool.

I honestly don't see your point and comes across as zealous. He got angry and used his method to destroy the object like anybody would have.
What i don't get is why it should be 'destroyed' in the first place.

also... using firearms is excessive, any way you put it. (using a bow is just crazy, but sort of cool crazy)

still, my point is that destroying stuff is bad.
 

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Abandon4093 said:
Dramerc said:
@all the liberls on here

Britain is in Chaos because of the unruly youth like her the riots and hell people being knifed kids needs to be hit it does them no harm aslong as they fully understand so he did the right thing in my mind cause the kid has to learn the hard way eventually this was the last straw she never listened or obeyed the rules she was warned time and time again that it'd be worse and she just had to have that go in conclusion she got what she bloody deserved and idc what the liberal wankers say the country is in hell cause of them

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BEFORE ANYONE miss qoutes me like last time read the LIKE HER bit didn't blame her for the riots i blamed kids LIKE HER
No one has anything against discipline. A lot of people in our country behave they way they do because they haven't been disciplined, you're entirely right there. liberals as you call them aren't the reason there's no discipline. A generation of parents that don't know what they fuck they're doing are the reason uneducated mobs roam the streets, kicking and stomping of people in swarms because they don't know any better.

But there is something inherently wrong with threatening your child with the violence of a gun. He may not have threatened her directly. But the message was pretty clear, "you don't like it? Tough, I've got a gun."

Doesn't send a good message to the child and it's so far out of the realms of discipline is bordering on stupidity.

Yes The hitting of children banned Punishments banned Labour the Lib Dems thats why and yes a gun goes all the damn way into teaching kids look at the riech Look at their discipline kids would jump off building and not ask if it was safe
 

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This man makes me sick, why do people go looking for trouble? Just ignore it and it wont even effect you dumb ass.
 

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Trillovinum said:
mad825 said:
Eh, I would've done a similar thing. I would clout a few arrow/bolts into it and I'll be more indiscriminate by using broad-tips. Even if I didn't have a bow/crossbow, I would've used a sledgehammer or similar hitting tool.

I honestly don't see your point and comes across as zealous. He got angry and used his method to destroy the object like anybody would have.
What i don't get is why it should be 'destroyed' in the first place.
Good question, a man named Freud would say it's an defence mechanism; Displacement.
 

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There's some serious misrepresentation going on here. The daughter writes some angry rant to her Facebook friends (it's probably safe to assume she was a recognised under-18 and so couldn't use Public settings on Facebook) and her father reacts by releasing a Youtube vid seen by millions of people and a public Facebook post about the video. And given that she can longer access the internet, we'll never know her side of the story for a couple of years at least. Even then this won't earn her respect, only her fear, and those are completely different things.
 

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While I don't agree with taking away a child's access to information like their phone, internet etc, I agree with some of the things he said. Asuming they are as he said they are.