Dad uses Facebook to teach daughter a lesson.

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Oh dear lord, a man used a gun? How outrageous! Who gives a fuck about what he did with his gun?

I'm more bothered about how he droned on and on, repeating the same points over and over again. He is not good at making videos.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

On the one hand:

A 15 year old girl shouldn't be sassing her dad like that, you don't take that kind of crap from your child.

Punishment fits the crime, can't argue with that; hell I'm seeing actual parenting. Mark this day in your diary kiddies.

Yes, young lady, do your fucking chores. Welcome to being a teenager, we've all been there.

Yes, Facebook and a laptop are a privelige that your father (therefore legal guardian/jailer/provider/GOD) can take away.

On the other hand:

You chose a pretty fucking juvenille way to respond dude; bitching on Facebook is the level of a teenage girl: not an experienced IT worker or a mature age man.

The whole speil about how you spent your youth....well regarless of it's status as truth (which I won't argue) it really just comes off as the whole 'hiking fifteen miles in the snow to get to school with no shoes' spiel. Seriously, the only people I remember saying that were Lou Pickles and Abe Simpson. Not saying you're wrong to point it out, but it seems like holier than thou pontificating than proving a point.

The use of the gun. Now I'll give some background here: I'm from Australia so my personal experience with a firearm is nil. There is something deeply unsettling to me about taking someone's property (even if its obviously a gift from you) and unloading a full magazine of live rounds into it, dropping the obligitory "and this one is for" line. This isn't just taking a hard line with an obviously spoilt child; you have crossed into vicariously threatening her with a weapon. Respect born of fear for your life (she's 15, Christ knows how her brain would interpret that) is the respect of slaves to masters, not children to parents.

Her current attitude has obviously been enabled by either you or your wife or both of you. If you applied about half the discipline in that video on a regular basis, you'd probably never gotten this point. OR, the child has deep behavioural issues and this stunt won't have the desired effect anyway.

 

[KefkaCultist]

Rights should be either taken away or made more strict when abused by an individual. When someone boycotts someone's funeral, they should be sued for disturbing the peace and harassment

If I refuse to attend a funeral I should be sued for disturbing the peace? Seriously? Not being someplace is exactly the OPPOSITE of disturbing the peace.

I think he meant picketing like the WBC does, but got his words mixed up. It'd make more sense.

EDIT: sorry, I didn't refresh my page to see that he responded already. Here's a funny image for my condolences:

Spoiler

 

[DigitalSushi]

I'm of two minds here, while I agree that he should remove his daughters privileges for acting spoilt we don't actually know if she is spoilt or if that was just a ranty type facebook message, for all we know she needed to blow off steam and that's what she did, she probably loves her life.

I know at 15 I wrote that way because my hormones were raging, but my parents never saw it because it was private and kept in a diary, hell most of us have felt the same at that age because we are on the cusp of adulthood and we don't quite understand adult life yet.

He could have been a bit more diplomatic in that situation, instead of showing up his daughter like that both in front of everyone she knows and now in front of the whole internet, this will only serve to push her away instead of bringing her closer. She'll push her feelings deeper and further away from her father now as opposed to talking things through, because you know, he might shoot her signed copy of Twilight next.

Eh, I would've done a similar thing. I would clout a few arrow/bolts into it and I'll be more indiscriminate by using broad-tips. Even if I didn't have a bow/crossbow, I would've used a sledgehammer or similar hitting tool.

Strangely enough watching the video I thought to myself "I would have used Graphite arrows with a 24 calibre Bow, much more elegant".

Graphite Arrows cost 27 dollars a piece too, not 2 dollars like them dar bullets he gone and dem used, hyuk hyuk. Only messing Cowboy Father, no disrespect intended, merely a playful post.

 

[FallenMessiah88]

At first I was very sympathetic towards the guy. I hate it when kids act like little spolied brats and sometimes, words just won't do. However, as I stated on the video itself, IMO this guy and his wife have just officially lost the right to be parents...forever!!!

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

Stupid man raises stupid kid. No one surprised.

 

[Woodsey]

Rights should be either taken away or made more strict when abused by an individual. When someone boycotts someone's funeral, they should be sued for disturbing the peace and harassment

If I refuse to attend a funeral I should be sued for disturbing the peace? Seriously? Not being someplace is exactly the OPPOSITE of disturbing the peace.

No one said that. You are not disturbing the peace. However if you are standing outside of a funeral, yelling how glad someone is dead in a time of mourning than yes. You are disturbing the peace. Boycott was the wrong word depending on how it is taken. Picketing. Protesting a funeral.

A boycott is when you abstain from attending/buying/using something.

 

[Naeras]

Stupid man raises stupid kid. No one surprised.

This summarizes the case pretty nicely.

 

[thespyisdead]

i would say that the gun was excessive, but not taking shit from brats is one thing, that parents today tend not to have guts to do

 

[WanderingFool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kl1ujzRidmU

I have already posted about this. So I will just take what I posted and put it here:

What is wrong with you people? This man just put 9 rounds into a stationary object because he was angry. Let me repeat myself; This man just unloaded a -gun- into a computer because he was angry. He has every right to punish his daughter, but this shows complete and total lack of control and discipline over himself by using a firearm to teach a lesson.

He lost count in how many bullets fired at that, because of his anger! And people support this? A gun is not a toy, it's a tool. A last resort and used to protect, not destroy. I've seen comments on this saying "An all American dad!" Are you people crazy or just plan stupid? Comments like that is exactly why our country is looked down on as gun tooting/war hungry morons! His entire point goes out the window when he shows how childish (Retaliating to her internet post--it's an internet post for crying out loud) with the use of a gun.

And people say the young are stupid.

I once believed that a gun should be a right, however after seeing how he used his firearm and people's encouragement of his action, I now believe that having a gun should be treated as a privilege instead of a right. I am an American, and I DO NOT agree with this man's methods of use of a firearm, nor raising a child.

Edit: However, chores are fine. Go chores.

I garantee most of the people supporting him are little pussies, that when push comes to shove, will change.

 

[Ramzal]

Rights should be either taken away or made more strict when abused by an individual. When someone boycotts someone's funeral, they should be sued for disturbing the peace and harassment

If I refuse to attend a funeral I should be sued for disturbing the peace? Seriously? Not being someplace is exactly the OPPOSITE of disturbing the peace.

No one said that. You are not disturbing the peace. However if you are standing outside of a funeral, yelling how glad someone is dead in a time of mourning than yes. You are disturbing the peace. Boycott was the wrong word depending on how it is taken. Picketing. Protesting a funeral.

A boycott is when you abstain from attending/buying/using something.

Which is why I corrected myself. I made a mistake. Oh no. World a blaze.

 

[Woodsey]

Rights should be either taken away or made more strict when abused by an individual. When someone boycotts someone's funeral, they should be sued for disturbing the peace and harassment

If I refuse to attend a funeral I should be sued for disturbing the peace? Seriously? Not being someplace is exactly the OPPOSITE of disturbing the peace.

No one said that. You are not disturbing the peace. However if you are standing outside of a funeral, yelling how glad someone is dead in a time of mourning than yes. You are disturbing the peace. Boycott was the wrong word depending on how it is taken. Picketing. Protesting a funeral.

A boycott is when you abstain from attending/buying/using something.

Which is why I corrected myself. I made a mistake. Oh no. World a blaze.

"Depending on how it is taken" made it look like you thought it could still be used in the way you did.

 

[Ramzal]

Rights should be either taken away or made more strict when abused by an individual. When someone boycotts someone's funeral, they should be sued for disturbing the peace and harassment

If I refuse to attend a funeral I should be sued for disturbing the peace? Seriously? Not being someplace is exactly the OPPOSITE of disturbing the peace.

No one said that. You are not disturbing the peace. However if you are standing outside of a funeral, yelling how glad someone is dead in a time of mourning than yes. You are disturbing the peace. Boycott was the wrong word depending on how it is taken. Picketing. Protesting a funeral.

A boycott is when you abstain from attending/buying/using something.

Which is why I corrected myself. I made a mistake. Oh no. World a blaze.

"Depending on how it is taken" made it look like you thought it could still be used in the way you did.

Okay, WOW. That part I meant to take out when I realized what I was typing. Thought I did, but didn't.

 

[Dramerc]

@all the liberls on here

Britain is in Chaos because of the unruly youth like her the riots and hell people being knifed kids needs to be hit it does them no harm aslong as they fully understand so he did the right thing in my mind cause the kid has to learn the hard way eventually this was the last straw she never listened or obeyed the rules she was warned time and time again that it'd be worse and she just had to have that go in conclusion she got what she bloody deserved and idc what the liberal wankers say the country is in hell cause of them

EDIT

BEFORE ANYONE miss qoutes me like last time read the LIKE HER bit didn't blame her for the riots i blamed kids LIKE HER

 

[Hristo Petrov]

That there was a fine example of good parenting props to that guy

 

[galdon2004]

Rights should be either taken away or made more strict when abused by an individual. When someone boycotts someone's funeral, they should be sued for disturbing the peace and harassment

If I refuse to attend a funeral I should be sued for disturbing the peace? Seriously? Not being someplace is exactly the OPPOSITE of disturbing the peace.

No one said that. You are not disturbing the peace. However if you are standing outside of a funeral, yelling how glad someone is dead in a time of mourning than yes. You are disturbing the peace. Boycott was the wrong word depending on how it is taken. Picketing. Protesting a funeral.

Yeah, boycott is entirely the wrong word; the Phelps family/Wesboro church do a lot of loud obnoxious protests. Shouldn't mean that everybody should lose the right to protest, instead funerals should just GAIN a right to peace within earshot of the location. People who are considered to deliberately disturb this peace are now violating the rights of the mourning rather than it being a freedom of speech loophole. (I.E. 'you are free to protest, and say anything you want; but you can't do it where the mourners can hear you, they have a right to mourn in peace.)

I harshly object to any removal of rights. Keep removing our rights for a 'good reason' and soon we won't have any left.

 

[Monsterfurby]

The problem here is not the gun he pulled (that's a larger societal problem as well, but one of an entirely different nature) but the fact that American family structures are stuck in the middle ages - at least outside the major cities. Having lived there for a long while, I was again and again shocked at the patriarchal/matriarchal structures in families, and how teenagers were treated like children; adults like teenagers. I have no idea where this chain-of-command state of mind comes from, but it is deeply entrenched in American society. Shooting the daughter's PC with a gun is a symptom of a society where parents are neither capable nor WILLING to work constructively with their children rather than pulling rank whenever they can.

I am not promoting full-on antiauthoritarian raising of children - parents have a duty to keep their child from harm, if necessary by force, but there is "harm" and there is "nuisance". If something your child does annoys you, guess what: your reaction is going to be the one your child eventually adapts.

Also not going into gun laws here. Suffice it to say: during the time the only constitutional act that those are based on was created, peasant levies were still a primary means of warfare in most parts of the world.