Dad uses Facebook to teach daughter a lesson.

[Kinokohatake]

@all the liberls on here

Britain is in Chaos because of the unruly youth like her the riots and hell people being knifed kids needs to be hit it does them no harm aslong as they fully understand so he did the right thing in my mind cause the kid has to learn the hard way eventually this was the last straw she never listened or obeyed the rules she was warned time and time again that it'd be worse and she just had to have that go in conclusion she got what she bloody deserved and idc what the liberal wankers say the country is in hell cause of them

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BEFORE ANYONE miss qoutes me like last time read the LIKE HER bit didn't blame her for the riots i blamed kids LIKE HER

She's acting like a perfectly normal teenager. Old people have always blamed the troubles of the world on them. IF you think that anyone acting like her has anything to do with the riots in England, then you do not understand the first thing about how societies work.

Harsh punishments handed out long time after a warning does little to nothing to prevent
actions. But both politicians and parents are too uninformed to try any other thing. The dad in this case have pent up anger that he let loose instead of actually doing a job of raising a kid.

You are on the same level. "hitting kids will teach them not to be violent" If you can't see the problem there, then you are beyond help. Raising kids should be done not with threats, but with firm boundaries, which make them feel safe. Letting them do something some of the time and then suddenly punishing them hard will make them anxious and violent, diminishing their ability to interact properly with others.

Parents need to learn to parent. Politicians need to listen to experts instead of going on gut feelings. And then we'll begin to actually see a positive change. And it all start with you!

How old are you?

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

I'm going to go ahead an copy something that somebody on Tumblr said that I agree with 100 percent.
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Seriously, why is it the daughter's fault? And why is the response that people applaud not 'Talk to your daughter' and instead 'Make a mockery out of how she feels on Youtube?'

Finally someone who gets it! There is not a gene that makes people spoiled or immature, it is not something that just happens. No, IT IS LEARNED! And it is a sign of bad parenting.

So when this guy was confronted with the fact that he and his wife are SHIT at parenting he could not cope with loosing the delusion of being a good parent and punished HER for HIS failure. And only retards and other failures applaud that.

People should understand by now that a loud minority (I dont want to believe its the majority) on escapist applauds bad parrenting and hates kids. This is why such things here are so supported, they hate kids. Therefor they dont need to hear about kids being treated like normal human-beings. Actually, the more mistreatment it seems the more they like the story. Im pretty sure back when the video of the father that 'hit' his daughter came up like half those people were supporting it because (OH, IT WAS ONLY WITH THE BACK OF HIS HAND)

You know how I was punished?. . . well, alright. I wasnt since I didnt misbehave ever.

But you know how my SISTER! Was puinished? They cut off the internet for a while and took her phone and didnt let her see her friends. No contact to friends for a couple of days is a really good, unharmful. Punishment.

I have to chime in on this, because I need to apologize for the way I minimized that other video. My parents have a lot in common with both the guy in that video, and especially with the guy in this one. It took going off to college for a year and a half and coming back for my final internship to realize just how abnormal this kind of parenting is.

OT: This is abuse, plain and simple. We're only getting one side of the story, the abuser's, and frankly, I'm more inclined to believe the daughter than I am him. So what if he shows a nice face to the world? Successful abusers /do./ It's how they treat their family that counts, and we've just been shown a disturbing, accidentally honest slice of how this man treats his family.

Edit: Oh, and who want's to bet on what that "$130 worth of software" was? Because my guess is that the "upgrade" was nothing but a copy of Microsoft Office, which she probably legitimately needed for class. "Luxury item" my ass.

 

[hubert]

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[Shavon513]

I was with the guy for the first 5 minutes of the video...it's always a bad idea to a) friend your parents of facebook, no matter what age and b) complain about your parents online. Privacy is not dead, and it should be valued. This is an extreme example, but an example nevertheless. Yeah, the girl is obviously spoiled, not having to work at the age of 15 and possessing a lot of expensive technologies. But, then the dad goes a bit overboard. Actually, VERY overboard. WHo the h*** puts bullets into a laptop? Too extreme. I agree with grounding, and taking away the laptop until the daughter can demonstrate appropriate internet behavior. I cannot agree, however, with the violent reaction to her laptop, as well as making a video of it and posting ot where it can unnecessarily humiliate her to everyone she knows and then some.

This, rather than properly rehabilitating her, as proper discipline would do, is just going to damage her further. Way to go, Dad. Jeez.

 

[chadachada123]

Lol, how could any person say that he "lost control" "because of anger"? He was cool and collected the entire time. Regarding him counting the shots, he unloaded a few and then remembered that he needed to save one for the wife; that's not "losing count because of anger."

Using a gun to shoot an inanimate object like in this video isn't stupid in the slightest, especially if the symbolism behind it will carry a lot of weight.

Maybe OP and others grew up in a city or something, but I don't understand how anyone that lived in the suburbs or more-rural could possibly be opposed to this.

 

[hubert]

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[Byere]

so, while I don't condone the use of a gun, I totally agree with what he said. If that's how she's going to act despite warnings beforehand, then good on him for having the restraint to just destroy the laptop and not just beat her pathetic ass...

 

[Eri]

I find it hilarious that 90% of the people hating on the guy are people who don't have their date of birth listed in their profile. Rebellion against parents much?

 

[Atlas13]

Lol, how could any person say that he "lost control" "because of anger"? He was cool and collected the entire time. Regarding him counting the shots, he unloaded a few and then remembered that he needed to save one for the wife; that's not "losing count because of anger."

Using a gun to shoot an inanimate object like in this video isn't stupid in the slightest, especially if the symbolism behind it will carry a lot of weight.

Maybe OP and others grew up in a city or something, but I don't understand how anyone that lived in the suburbs or more-rural could possibly be opposed to this.

I find it creepy when you start talking about symbolism, is the daughter going to be the laptop next time or what?

Whenever you feel you need to use a firearm to parent your kid properly, you're doing it WRONG.

By the way did the dad say that he had two jobs and went to high school and college at the same time at her age? I find that hard to believe..
(I might just have misunderstood)

Why do all of you who disapprove of the father always say something like "Oh no! He shot a laptop with a gun! Next time he's going to gun down his entire family!"

He told his daughter that if she fucked up like that again then he'd put a bullet through her laptop. And guess what, she fucked up and he put a bullet through her laptop.

 

[SciMal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kl1ujzRidmU

So, after watching it, reading the responses posted on Page 8, and pondering for a bit - I'm okay with this, but barely.

What he did right:

-He is obviously a parent who pays attention, is culturally aware, and attempts to foster respect in his progeny. I'm behind him for this 100%. His comment about the cleaning lady was particularly admirable.

-He warned her previously of her attitude. He was upfront and took her to task about it at least once before. Warnings must always come before punishments.

-While he used a gun, yes, he used it in a manner he was comfortable with and knew to be safe. He obviously knew to use hollow points, and had extensive experience. THIS is what makes the use of the gun OKAY. He was cool, he knew what he was doing. It's been a long time since I fired any sort of gun, and I'd never think about the hollow points to avoid ricochet. At the same time, he's never had to handle triflouric acid before, and I'd feel more comfortable handling it than him because of an extensive background in chemistry. If the person knows how to use it safely, and uses it safely, I don't see it as necessarily a bad thing.

-His responses to the media were spot-on. He didn't exploit the incident, he didn't tout his viewpoint on talk shows, it's another indicator that he's probably a good parent.

-He never raged. He was frustrated, yes, but there's a difference between being very frustrated (which is fine and normal) and then flipping out (which is not).

What the grey areas are:

-I'm not convinced the gun was the best solution. Yes, it was OK that he used the gun, but to destroy the laptop with it instead of simply taking it away or selling it? Not sure.

-The video could be construed as being very passive aggressive. Most people are a little passive aggressive, but I don't get that feeling from him. I get that he's a busy man and probably doesn't have much time to talk to his daughter as much as he'd like - so this was how he chose to get the message across.

What he was short-sighted on:

-Teenagers say shit. They always have, and always will. Destroying the laptop might permanently lodge the lesson in her head, or it might be forgotten in two months as she goes back to spouting more shit.

-Times. Have. Changed. He went on a huge spiel about "When I was your age..." and that's a blaring error. The guy looks like he's in his 40s - which seems about right to have a daughter in her mid-teens. That means the guy was born in the 70s, and spent his teens working in the 80s. What's different these days? Well, besides the internet, the biggest difference is the expectations on kids today to do well in school and the expectations of employers. You MUST do well in school in order to get into college (which she obviously plans on attending), and these days colleges expect a lot more from their freshman. Do you have volunteer hours? Do you have a high GPA? Do you have leadership experience? What's your ACT score? Have you remained active in a sport throughout your high school career? It's significantly harder to distinguish yourself, and in some cases it's almost like a job. I'm currently in my last semester of a B.S. and to remain competitive for grad school I have had to rack up 300+ hours of volunteer service, 35+ hours of research, 40+ hours of leadership experience, retain a 3.0+ GPA in a Research 1 school, and do well on the big test. Most students who work FT and try to go to school drop out or fail. That's the truth. While there are exceptions, my degree course and route to grad school has nearly a 75% fallout rate. So, yes, I believe the guy when he says he did all that stuff; that's admirable. Seriously, though, I doubt he was under the same amount of societal pressure to succeed academically. In addition, most employers simply have different standards. There are exceedingly few entry-level positions, more restrictions on teenage employment, and often the jobs teens can get are utter shit because employers push the minimum wagers beyond their capabilities. One of my first jobs out of high school (before college) was pushing carts. I was expected to bring in all of the shopping carts in under 15 minutes. This was over 3 lots which probably composed 2 square miles - which is practically impossible to do in the first place. The more hilarious bit is that - BY LAW - I was only able to bring in 10 carts at a time (and yes, I was yelled at for bringing in more). There were probably close to 50 in every lot every 30 minutes. It was simply impossible to do. The area was too big to cover in the time, but I was reprimanded nonetheless. Jobs are just different than when he was working, employers are less forgiving, and his daughter's academic workload is most likely several times what his was. As long as she's doing well in school and extra-curriculars, he should be happy.

 

[thethird0611]

I'm going to go ahead an copy something that somebody on Tumblr said that I agree with 100 percent.
....

Seriously, why is it the daughter's fault? And why is the response that people applaud not 'Talk to your daughter' and instead 'Make a mockery out of how she feels on Youtube?'

Finally someone who gets it! There is not a gene that makes people spoiled or immature, it is not something that just happens. No, IT IS LEARNED! And it is a sign of bad parenting.

So when this guy was confronted with the fact that he and his wife are SHIT at parenting he could not cope with loosing the delusion of being a good parent and punished HER for HIS failure. And only retards and other failures applaud that.

People should understand by now that a loud minority (I dont want to believe its the majority) on escapist applauds bad parrenting and hates kids. This is why such things here are so supported, they hate kids. Therefor they dont need to hear about kids being treated like normal human-beings. Actually, the more mistreatment it seems the more they like the story. Im pretty sure back when the video of the father that 'hit' his daughter came up like half those people were supporting it because (OH, IT WAS ONLY WITH THE BACK OF HIS HAND)

You know how I was punished?. . . well, alright. I wasnt since I didnt misbehave ever.

But you know how my SISTER! Was puinished? They cut off the internet for a while and took her phone and didnt let her see her friends. No contact to friends for a couple of days is a really good, unharmful. Punishment.

I have to chime in on this, because I need to apologize for the way I minimized that other video. My parents have a lot in common with both the guy in that video, and especially with the guy in this one. It took going off to college for a year and a half and coming back for my final internship to realize just how abnormal this kind of parenting is.

OT: This is abuse, plain and simple. We're only getting one side of the story, the abuser's, and frankly, I'm more inclined to believe the daughter than I am him. So what if he shows a nice face to the world? Successful abusers /do./ It's how they treat their family that counts, and we've just been shown a disturbing, accidentally honest slice of how this man treats his family.

Edit: Oh, and who want's to bet on what that "$130 worth of software" was? Because my guess is that the "upgrade" was nothing but a copy of Microsoft Office, which she probably legitimately needed for class. "Luxury item" my ass.

Ive been trying to keep from chiming in on this, but have you even read his follow ups? The reaction of his daughter, etc.? Go on his facebook and look (you can get there from the video).

Heres a few bullet points.

1. Daughter felt bad at first, come to realize she was in the wrong, getting along with life happily.
2. Police and CPS visited him because of the TREMENDOUS amount of calls from internet goers. Results? The officers said 'kudos from the department', and the CPS gal dismissed it after a thorough investigation.

So... No. No abuse, the family is just fine, and everything is getting along well with them.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

So, who here has read the official response from the father in all this?

Spoiler

Attention Media Outlets:
While we appreciate the interest you're all putting forth to get in touch with us regarding the video, we're not going to go on your talk show, not going to call in to your radio show, and not going to be in your TV mini-series.

Some of you think I made an acceptable parenting decision and others think I didn't. However, I can't think of any way myself or my daughter can ...respond to a media outlet that won't be twisted out of context. The Dallas news TV news already showed that in their brief 5 minute interview with the psychologist.

Additionally, there's absolutely NO way I'm going to send my child the message that it's OK to gain from something like this. It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's now how I was raised, nor how she has been raised.

So I say thank you from all of us. If we have anything to say, we'll say it here on Facebook, and we'll say it publicly, but we won't say it to a microphone or a camera. There are too many other REAL issues out there that could use this attention you're giving us. My daughter isn't hurt, emotionally scarred, or otherwise damaged, but that kind of publicity has never seemed to be to have a positive effect on any child or family.

If you're a news outlet that wants to ask us a question, feel free to so via email. I'm sure by now my email address is easy enough to find. It might take me awhile to get to a response because I'd have to sort through the "Die you bastard" emails to find it, but we will respond if its something that we feel merits it. Otherwise, sorry... no interviews, no talk shows, no call-ins.

If we respond to anything, it will be on here, and it will be in a way that our words can't be misconstrued or edited for appeal to specific audience or shock value.

Now, I'm going to try to get to work for the day.
Best of luck to all of you out there... and PLEASE give my phone a break.
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HOW HANNAH GOT CAUGHT
HOW SHE GOT CAUGHT: The Dog Did It.. no, really.

I finally came out and told her this today, partly because it was too funny NOT to share.

When my daughter made her post, she used Facebook's privacy settings to block "Family" and "Church" friend's lists. All her other friends could see it. We, of course could not.

One of our dogs is always getting in photos and therefore has her own Facebook pa...ge. It's just a cute dumb thing we did for fun. Well, the dog's profile is rarely used except when funny pictures of her are posted. Since that's not too often, and she has very few friends on Facebook, her wall is kind of bare, with relatively few posts showing up on it.

The other night we gave the dog a bath and there was a funny photo we uploaded to Facebook and tagged her in. I logged in as the dog the next morning to comment on the photo. However when I logged into the dog's profile, my daughter had forgotten to add her to the "family" list.... so our family dog's profile showed her post right there on the front page.

It wasn't any parent-hacking, computer spying, or monitoring of any kind.. the dog actually ratted her out completely by accident. She hasn't petted that dog all day today...
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HANNAH'S REACTION
For those that wondered, commented, criticized, and just in general wanted to know:
My daughter came through it fine.

Yes, she's in trouble, and yes she's grounded, but that doesn't mean every moment of her life has to be miserable. She's going to come to terms with the changes that will be present for a while; no TV privileges, no Internet, etc.

In the meantime, once the initial anger passed,... she sat with me reviewing some of the comments that have come in via Facebook and YouTube. One person even suggested collecting the shell casings and auctioning them on eBay. I said I'd do it if it would help contribute to her college fund! When I told her about it, she thought a minute, got a funny calculating expression on her face and said, "in that case you should shoot my phone too. We can use more bullets and I'll go half-sies with ya on it! It's not like I'm going to need it any time soon. And I can use the money we get to buy a new one."

While the whole point of this story isn't funny, what is funny to me is how weak some people out there think kids are. Our kids are as strong as we help them to be. My daughter took a horrible day in her life, had her crying fit, then got over it, accepted her punishment, and hasn't let it (or people's comments) destroy her strength. I don't get any credit for that. She's strong and able to overcome almost anything life throws at her.

Since this unsuspectingly threw her into the limelight much more strongly than either of us intended, I asked her if she wanted to make her own response video, and told her I'd let her do it if she wanted to. She doesn't like being in front of the camera, so she declined, but I've told her if she wants to write a response or post a video response, I'd be OK with it. It's only fair considering the viral nature of the whole thing. So far she's not really interested. Quite frankly it seems she's gotten bored of it much faster than the general public has. If that changes I'll post it here.
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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS:
Media Response to Anita Li, from the Toronto Star

Since you took the time to email us with your requests like we asked, I'll take the time to give you an honest follow-up response. You'll have to forgive me for doing so publicly though; again I want to be sure my words are portrayed the way I actually say them, not cut together to make entirely different points.

Your questions were:
Q: Why did y...ou decide to reprimand your daughter over a public medium like YouTube?

A: Well, I actually just had to load the video file itself on YouTube because it's a better upload process than Facebook, but the intended audience was her Facebook friends and the parents of those friends who saw her post and would naturally assume we let our children get away with something like that. So, to answer "Why did you reprimand her over a public medium like Facebook" my answer is this: Because that's how I was raised. If I did something embarrassing to my parents in public (such as a grocery store) I got my tail tore up right there in front of God and everyone, right there in the store. I put the reprisal in exactly the same medium she did, in the exact same manner. Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people... originally. I had no idea it would become what it did.

Q: How effective do you think your punishment was (i.e. shooting her laptop and reading her letter online)?

A: I think it was very effective on one front. She apparently didn't remember being talked to about previous incidents, nor did she seem to remember the effects of having it taken away, nor did the eventual long-term grounding seem to get through to her. I think she thought "Well, I'll just wait it out and I'll get it back eventually." Her behavior corrected for a short time, and then it went back to what it was before and worse. This time, she won't ever forget and it'll be a long time before she has an opportunity to post on Facebook again. I feel pretty certain that every day from then to now, whenever one of her friends mentions Facebook, she'll remember it and wish she hadn't done what she did.

The second lesson I want her to learn is the value of a dollar. We don't give her everything she asks for, but you can all imagine what it's like being the only grandchild and the first child. Presents and money come from all sides when you're young. Most of the things she has that are "cool" were bought or gifted that way. She's always asked for very few things, but they're always high-dollar things (iPod, laptop, smartphone, etc). Eventually she gets given enough money to get them. That's not learning the value of a dollar. Its knowing how to save money, which I greatly applaud in her, but it's not enough. She wants a digital SLR camera. She wants a 22 rifle like mine. She wants a car. She wants a smart phone with a data package and unlimited texting. (I have to hear about that one every week!)

She thinks all these things are supposed to be given to her because she's got parents. It's not going to happen, at least not in our house. She can get a job and work for money just like everyone else. Then she can spend it on anything she wants (within reason). If she wants to work for two months to save enough to purchase a $1000 SLR camera with an $800 lens, then I can guarantee she'll NEVER leave it outside at night. She'll be careful when she puts it away and carries it around. She'll value it much more because she worked so hard to get it. Instead, with the current way things have been given to her, she's on about her fourth phone and just expects another one when she breaks the one she has. She's not sorry about breaking it, or losing it, she's sorry only because she can't text her friends. I firmly believe she'll be a LOT more careful when she has to buy her own $299.00 Motorola Razr smartphone.

Until then, she can do chores, and lots and lots of them, so the people who ARE feeding her, clothing her, paying for all her school trips, paying for her musical instruments, can have some time to relax after they finish working to support her and the rest of the family. She can either work to make money on her own, or she will do chores to contribute around the house. She's known all along that all she has to do is get a job and a lot of these chores will go away. But if you're too lazy to work even to get things you want for yourself, I'm certainly not going to let you sit idly on your rear-end with your face glued to both the TV and Facebook for 5 to 6 hours per night. Those days are over.

Q: How did your daughter respond to the video and to what happened to her laptop?

A: She responded to the video with "I can't believe you shot my computer!" That was the first thing she said when she found out about it. Then we sat and we talked for quite a long while on the back patio about the things she did, the things I did in response, etc.

Later after she'd had time to process it and I'd had time to process her thoughts on the matters we discussed, we were back to a semi-truce... you know that uncomfortable moment when you're in the kitchen with your child after an argument and you're both waiting to see which one's going to cave in and resume normal conversation first? Yeah, that moment. I told her about the video response and about it going viral and about the consequences it could have on our family for the next couple of days and asked if she wanted to see some of the comments people had made. After the first few hundred comments, she was astounded with the responses.

People were telling her she was going to commit suicide, commit a gun-related crime, become a drug addict, drop out of school, get pregnant on purpose, and become a stripper because she's too emotionally damaged now to be a productive member of society. Apparently stripper was the job-choice of most of the commenters. Her response was "Dude... it's only a computer. I mean, yeah I'm mad but pfft." She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other job fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasn't too keen on the stripping thing.

We agreed we learned two collective lessons from this so far:

First: As her father, I'll definitely do what I say I will, both positive and negative and she can depend on that. She no longer has any doubt about that.

Second: We have always told her what you put online can affect you forever. Years later a single Facebook/MySpace/Twitter comment can affect her eligibility for a good job and can even get her fired from a job she already has. She's seen first-hand through this video the worst possible scenario that can happen. One post, made by her Dad, will probably follow him the rest of his life; just like those mean things she said on Facebook will stick with the people her words hurt for a long time to come. Once you put it out there, you can't take it back, so think carefully before you use the internet to broadcast your thoughts and feelings.

Should probably put this in the OP.

Giving the people the opportunity to see the response of this man and his daughter to this? Surely you're jesting!

On Topic:

Alltogether, I foresaw this kind of response, from father + daughter as from a community who is too quick to bash America. There was nothing wrong with what he did, he was not in rage as many here suggest.

Also, do people here really think that a guy shooting something in a field will mentally scar his daughter who is not even THERE? Teens are not made out of glas, I had it worse in my childhood and I have no problems whatsoever.

My problem with this: we have only heard his side of the story. How could we not? He destroyed his daughter's laptop[footnote]Yes, her laptop, not his: you can't take back a gift like that, parent or not.[/footnote]. I'm a bit worried about posting this, because my parents know what my username is on here, but fuck it: if she's in the situation I think she is, posting on Facebook would have been seen as a last resort, because she's been isolated to the point that she has nobody she can tell in person, or at least she feels like she does. When her dad took away her Facebook privileges as well, she really didn't have a way of getting her story out. Definitely not to the world at large; maybe not to anyone else, either.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

I'm going to go ahead an copy something that somebody on Tumblr said that I agree with 100 percent.
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Seriously, why is it the daughter's fault? And why is the response that people applaud not 'Talk to your daughter' and instead 'Make a mockery out of how she feels on Youtube?'

Finally someone who gets it! There is not a gene that makes people spoiled or immature, it is not something that just happens. No, IT IS LEARNED! And it is a sign of bad parenting.

So when this guy was confronted with the fact that he and his wife are SHIT at parenting he could not cope with loosing the delusion of being a good parent and punished HER for HIS failure. And only retards and other failures applaud that.

People should understand by now that a loud minority (I dont want to believe its the majority) on escapist applauds bad parrenting and hates kids. This is why such things here are so supported, they hate kids. Therefor they dont need to hear about kids being treated like normal human-beings. Actually, the more mistreatment it seems the more they like the story. Im pretty sure back when the video of the father that 'hit' his daughter came up like half those people were supporting it because (OH, IT WAS ONLY WITH THE BACK OF HIS HAND)

You know how I was punished?. . . well, alright. I wasnt since I didnt misbehave ever.

But you know how my SISTER! Was puinished? They cut off the internet for a while and took her phone and didnt let her see her friends. No contact to friends for a couple of days is a really good, unharmful. Punishment.

I have to chime in on this, because I need to apologize for the way I minimized that other video. My parents have a lot in common with both the guy in that video, and especially with the guy in this one. It took going off to college for a year and a half and coming back for my final internship to realize just how abnormal this kind of parenting is.

OT: This is abuse, plain and simple. We're only getting one side of the story, the abuser's, and frankly, I'm more inclined to believe the daughter than I am him. So what if he shows a nice face to the world? Successful abusers /do./ It's how they treat their family that counts, and we've just been shown a disturbing, accidentally honest slice of how this man treats his family.

Edit: Oh, and who want's to bet on what that "$130 worth of software" was? Because my guess is that the "upgrade" was nothing but a copy of Microsoft Office, which she probably legitimately needed for class. "Luxury item" my ass.

Ive been trying to keep from chiming in on this, but have you even read his follow ups? The reaction of his daughter, etc.? Go on his facebook and look (you can get there from the video).

Heres a few bullet points.

1. Daughter felt bad at first, come to realize she was in the wrong, getting along with life happily.
2. Police and CPS visited him because of the TREMENDOUS amount of calls from internet goers. Results? The officers said 'kudos from the department', and the CPS gal dismissed it after a thorough investigation.

So... No. No abuse, the family is just fine, and everything is getting along well with them.

And read what I posted below. We've only seen his side of the story, and CPS/the police are notoriously bad at telling the difference between a genuinely nice person and an abuser who is good at putting on a nice public persona.

 

[Virtual-Goose]

Restricting gun laws is restricting freedom. In my view that fact that a gun was used is irrelevant to anything, and he seemed pretty calm to me he even set up a camera to record the message. The fact that he destroyed her laptop seems extreme but he's her father surely that's for him to decide. People who go nuts over a gun being used to shoot something are a little bit to idealistic for their own good. Did he shoot someone? Was he irresponsible with his weapon? No he was in field a fair distance from any potential by standers. Let the man be.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

I'm going to go ahead an copy something that somebody on Tumblr said that I agree with 100 percent.
....

Seriously, why is it the daughter's fault? And why is the response that people applaud not 'Talk to your daughter' and instead 'Make a mockery out of how she feels on Youtube?'

Finally someone who gets it! There is not a gene that makes people spoiled or immature, it is not something that just happens. No, IT IS LEARNED! And it is a sign of bad parenting.

So when this guy was confronted with the fact that he and his wife are SHIT at parenting he could not cope with loosing the delusion of being a good parent and punished HER for HIS failure. And only retards and other failures applaud that.

People should understand by now that a loud minority (I dont want to believe its the majority) on escapist applauds bad parrenting and hates kids. This is why such things here are so supported, they hate kids. Therefor they dont need to hear about kids being treated like normal human-beings. Actually, the more mistreatment it seems the more they like the story. Im pretty sure back when the video of the father that 'hit' his daughter came up like half those people were supporting it because (OH, IT WAS ONLY WITH THE BACK OF HIS HAND)

You know how I was punished?. . . well, alright. I wasnt since I didnt misbehave ever.

But you know how my SISTER! Was puinished? They cut off the internet for a while and took her phone and didnt let her see her friends. No contact to friends for a couple of days is a really good, unharmful. Punishment.

I have to chime in on this, because I need to apologize for the way I minimized that other video. My parents have a lot in common with both the guy in that video, and especially with the guy in this one. It took going off to college for a year and a half and coming back for my final internship to realize just how abnormal this kind of parenting is.

OT: This is abuse, plain and simple. We're only getting one side of the story, the abuser's, and frankly, I'm more inclined to believe the daughter than I am him. So what if he shows a nice face to the world? Successful abusers /do./ It's how they treat their family that counts, and we've just been shown a disturbing, accidentally honest slice of how this man treats his family.

Edit: Oh, and who want's to bet on what that "$130 worth of software" was? Because my guess is that the "upgrade" was nothing but a copy of Microsoft Office, which she probably legitimately needed for class. "Luxury item" my ass.

Ive been trying to keep from chiming in on this, but have you even read his follow ups? The reaction of his daughter, etc.? Go on his facebook and look (you can get there from the video).

Heres a few bullet points.

1. Daughter felt bad at first, come to realize she was in the wrong, getting along with life happily.
2. Police and CPS visited him because of the TREMENDOUS amount of calls from internet goers. Results? The officers said 'kudos from the department', and the CPS gal dismissed it after a thorough investigation.

So... No. No abuse, the family is just fine, and everything is getting along well with them.

You do know that regardless of what his daughter thinks, her only means of communication is him and she's gonna feel like she has to appease him to avoid more punishment, yeah? If she dissented then we really wouldn't know.

Exactly my point. If he really is an abuser, we can't take his word about /anything/ regarding this, yet that's the only word we've heard. Funny, that.

 

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I'm going to go ahead an copy something that somebody on Tumblr said that I agree with 100 percent.
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Seriously, why is it the daughter's fault? And why is the response that people applaud not 'Talk to your daughter' and instead 'Make a mockery out of how she feels on Youtube?'

Finally someone who gets it! There is not a gene that makes people spoiled or immature, it is not something that just happens. No, IT IS LEARNED! And it is a sign of bad parenting.

So when this guy was confronted with the fact that he and his wife are SHIT at parenting he could not cope with loosing the delusion of being a good parent and punished HER for HIS failure. And only retards and other failures applaud that.

People should understand by now that a loud minority (I dont want to believe its the majority) on escapist applauds bad parrenting and hates kids. This is why such things here are so supported, they hate kids. Therefor they dont need to hear about kids being treated like normal human-beings. Actually, the more mistreatment it seems the more they like the story. Im pretty sure back when the video of the father that 'hit' his daughter came up like half those people were supporting it because (OH, IT WAS ONLY WITH THE BACK OF HIS HAND)

You know how I was punished?. . . well, alright. I wasnt since I didnt misbehave ever.

But you know how my SISTER! Was puinished? They cut off the internet for a while and took her phone and didnt let her see her friends. No contact to friends for a couple of days is a really good, unharmful. Punishment.

I have to chime in on this, because I need to apologize for the way I minimized that other video. My parents have a lot in common with both the guy in that video, and especially with the guy in this one. It took going off to college for a year and a half and coming back for my final internship to realize just how abnormal this kind of parenting is.

OT: This is abuse, plain and simple. We're only getting one side of the story, the abuser's, and frankly, I'm more inclined to believe the daughter than I am him. So what if he shows a nice face to the world? Successful abusers /do./ It's how they treat their family that counts, and we've just been shown a disturbing, accidentally honest slice of how this man treats his family.

Edit: Oh, and who want's to bet on what that "$130 worth of software" was? Because my guess is that the "upgrade" was nothing but a copy of Microsoft Office, which she probably legitimately needed for class. "Luxury item" my ass.

Ive been trying to keep from chiming in on this, but have you even read his follow ups? The reaction of his daughter, etc.? Go on his facebook and look (you can get there from the video).

Heres a few bullet points.

1. Daughter felt bad at first, come to realize she was in the wrong, getting along with life happily.
2. Police and CPS visited him because of the TREMENDOUS amount of calls from internet goers. Results? The officers said 'kudos from the department', and the CPS gal dismissed it after a thorough investigation.

So... No. No abuse, the family is just fine, and everything is getting along well with them.

You do know that regardless of what his daughter thinks, her only means of communication is him and she's gonna feel like she has to appease him to avoid more punishment, yeah? If she dissented then we really wouldn't know.

So him giving her an offer to make her own video in response, or post something on facebook about it, makes it so she appeases her? He again even told in one of his post that she sat with him and looked at some of the comments on the matter, and she couldnt believe what people were saying. Plain and simple she said she was fine.

Soo... That, and that her friends could always report how she really feels somehow?

Just because there is a conspiracy theory doesnt mean that its true.