Your press is stupid? Sir, I am an american, and one place in which we excel is the stupidity of our press.Sparrow said:
I think the busses are for the stupid american audiences. It kinda shouts, THIS IS LONDON, SEE THE BIG RED BUS!!!!!??!
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I think the busses are for the stupid american audiences. It kinda shouts, THIS IS LONDON, SEE THE BIG RED BUS!!!!!??!
i find it intresting these groups woudl condemn a game for being 'ultra violent, depicting real life events ,and shoudl be baned for its lack of taste an sensitivty' but yet they praise Movies like Blackhawk Down, Saveing Private Ryan, and Enemy at the Gates. those movies really ARE depitcing events that truely happened [cept private ryan. it was a story i think?] and showing people getting shot up, blow up or mutilated in the most grotesque way [case in point, the scene on BHD where truckdriver A gets an rpg through the side..]
you emdia watchdogs. piss off. seriously. we dont need you telling us what is 'morally bankrupt' we as adults are perfectly capable of choseing for ourselves what we want to play. and its up to the parents of children to monitor and restrict what their children have access to.
those 10year olds on call of duty didn't buy the game themselves...
you emdia watchdogs. piss off. seriously. we dont need you telling us what is 'morally bankrupt' we as adults are perfectly capable of choseing for ourselves what we want to play. and its up to the parents of children to monitor and restrict what their children have access to.
those 10year olds on call of duty didn't buy the game themselves...
If it were a movie, no one would complain that it echoes real events. But it's a game, silly me; this is an artistically illegitimate medium that has no effects but bad ones and wastes teenagers' time by turning them into murderous zombies. I forget simple, obvious truths like that sometimes...
Boy it's a good thing nobody under the age of 50 takes anything the Daily Mail says seriously. Only old people and people who are obsessed with Princess Diana read that paper.
My dad reads the Daily Mail. I've tried to convince him time and again that it's a terrible, terrible newspaper. At one point, I picked an article at random and went through it with him, point by point, all the ways the article was blatently biased and flat out untrue. No dice.Colinmac93 said:
Had to show him this link. His response? "Well, it's not the newspapers fault. They can only print what they're given. All this is given to them by scientists. Damn scientists, always contradicting themselves. ect ect"
Anyways, the Daily Mail has been banging on for years about how Video Games will bring about the apocolypse, where everyone becomes violent cannibals, armed with machine guns. I try to comfort myself in knowing that they're only preaching to the converted. (hopefuly)
The Daily Mail is pathetic rag of a newspaper. No one should listen to anything they say...unfortunately, so many people do.
I hate that I'm stopping my lurking to defend the daily mail of all things but the reaction on this thread makes me a little uneasy.
As someone with close friends who lost people on 7/7, I'm not loving the flippant nature of "Oh who cares, it was five years ago, we're used to it anyway." from some of the posters.
It seems to me that the majority of posts are just lining up to take shots at the daily mail without considering the issue at hand. Maybe it's just me but I can't help but think that americans would react differently if the trailer showed, say, a boeing being shot down with an RPG in NYC. Sure it's not actually a direct 9/11 simulation. but it's the same location and transport. When I saw the train part of the trailer, it really made me feel a bit put-off.
The cynical bastard inside me thinks that the only reason they're showing this provocative scene is just to generate this kind of attention. Something I'm not alright with.
As much as I dislike the mail and it's agenda, they have a point here, albeit made in their usual sensationalist manor.
Apologies for interupting the gamer pride and daily mate hate bandwagon.
As someone with close friends who lost people on 7/7, I'm not loving the flippant nature of "Oh who cares, it was five years ago, we're used to it anyway." from some of the posters.
It seems to me that the majority of posts are just lining up to take shots at the daily mail without considering the issue at hand. Maybe it's just me but I can't help but think that americans would react differently if the trailer showed, say, a boeing being shot down with an RPG in NYC. Sure it's not actually a direct 9/11 simulation. but it's the same location and transport. When I saw the train part of the trailer, it really made me feel a bit put-off.
The cynical bastard inside me thinks that the only reason they're showing this provocative scene is just to generate this kind of attention. Something I'm not alright with.
As much as I dislike the mail and it's agenda, they have a point here, albeit made in their usual sensationalist manor.
Apologies for interupting the gamer pride and daily mate hate bandwagon.
It's not our press, it's our tabloids. Half of which are owned by Rupert 'Fox News' Murdoch anyway.Sparrow said:
This is how the Daily Mail responded to Brass Eye:SomeBrianDude said:
(yes, they - as usual - managed to successfully parody themselves...)
That's the Telegraph (Torygraph) you're thinking of, although I can see where you'd get confused because there's not a lot in it...ReservoirAngel said:
When they see that a plane just so happens to be flying slightly too close to a sky scraper that doesn't even remotely resemble the World Trade Center towers. They'll probably compare the missile to the plane, though.Bob_F_It said:
I am not from England, so I don't really know how you guys feel about it. On one hand, I wouldn't compare the two events (the trailer and the real life bombings) because the trailer has them derail a train with a truck, while the real life attack was a group of suicide bombers. On the other hand, I would probably compare it to 9/11 if they depicted a suicide bombing helicopter crashing into a building to destroy it.
For those who don't know, the Daily Mail is basically a scare-mongering fish wrap, pretty much every article they run is about the injustice of fort-nightly wheelie bin collections and immigration. I wouldn't take anything they write too seriously, ditto for The Sun and The Daily Star, although they scare-monger on other issues.
The Daily Mail isn't a newspaper. It's 60 pages of guess work, fear mongering and moral crusading on behalf of a group of people that doesn't actually exist. Has the Daily Mail played this game? Has anyone? You might as well just say "I'm absolutely outraged. By whatever the fuck it is."
This proves those idiots didn't even play the fucking games. The plot analogies were horrible and prove they just pieced together nonsense.Xyless said:I laughed at the first one.The_root_of_all_evil said:By the way, I thought people would like to see their reviews.
I don't even know what my response is to the second. I want to say confusion, but not even close.
For that i can only refer you to this > > >Colinmac93 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTu7GLfrmUI
What. Seriously, what. The bombings where nothing like that trailer. Just...how, jesus how, can you make that assumption? I know it's the daily mail but even so, this is beyond stupid. Whichever trailer there watching must also include princess Diana being killed or something, to get them this pissed off. Because the bombings didn't cause that much trouble. God damn our shitty newspapers.
I'm surprised they haven't declared it a terrorist training simulator yet...
Daily Mail: It's like 7/7!
Me:Oh my yes, so it is. Because I remember that intense gun fight and the car-train chase along the Tube network on that day...
Seriously, theres one reason why this isn't like 7/7. Or London for that matter - it actually has the trains running [badum-tish!] Seriously, when I saw that clip of the underground train, I honestly thought it was meant to be the New York subway - it looks nothing like The Tube!
But - I can understand why some people may feel uneasy about this. However, the DM really isn't helping (but then again, when has it ever been of use?)
Daily Mail: It's like 7/7!
Me:Oh my yes, so it is. Because I remember that intense gun fight and the car-train chase along the Tube network on that day...
Seriously, theres one reason why this isn't like 7/7. Or London for that matter - it actually has the trains running [badum-tish!] Seriously, when I saw that clip of the underground train, I honestly thought it was meant to be the New York subway - it looks nothing like The Tube!
But - I can understand why some people may feel uneasy about this. However, the DM really isn't helping (but then again, when has it ever been of use?)
As long as we do not play as a Terrorist, commit suicide bombings personally, shoot/demolish child-filled schools and hospitals and step over the broken raped bodies of the innocent...then I feel we have not gone too far in FPS Gaming as far as depictions of violence.
Then again, maybe someday we will be mature enough to play a game like that and walk away changed, as we do when we read novels and see films that show us the ugly face of war. I think that sometimes we need to see the horrible side of the reality of war, but most people in the US seem content to enjoy the romanticized version of war as entertainment instead of really thinking about it.
Then again, maybe someday we will be mature enough to play a game like that and walk away changed, as we do when we read novels and see films that show us the ugly face of war. I think that sometimes we need to see the horrible side of the reality of war, but most people in the US seem content to enjoy the romanticized version of war as entertainment instead of really thinking about it.
