Dark Souls for PC: Petition

[Zulnam]

I think this is a good idea and PC gamers should get Dark Souls for the PC.


Then they can feel the ANGER AND FRUSTRATION I FELT WHEN THE FUCKING THING BEATS YOU DOWN OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Unless you play Demon's Souls, at which case you just throw the game's case off the window every time you die. Needless to say, it's a great workout.

 

[zombieshark6666]

WoW just WoW....

Congrats.... PC elitist has lost every meaning

You make great sweeping generalisation over a group that you decided is opposed to you...

good game....

Man, don't throw WoW at me, I hate memorpuggers.

Let me have my fun, dude. I have to play simplified games on 2005 hardware in low resolution.

 

[Korten12]

wrong. there is obviously hosting. just because it's automated in the p2p system doesn't mean there is no hosting. things like that are not hard to mod. it wouldn't take modders long to create a fully functional mods. of course, only people who actually have and run the mod can play in this alternate version of the game.
mw2 for example has "no hosting", as you call it, still there is alter iw net with mods and everything.

i don't think you understand what a mod is. a mod is not a change on MY game, with wich i then proceed to play with people who have the unmodded game. think of it more as of an fan-made addon to the game. only people who run the mod play together.

You don't understand. THERE IS HOSTING. What do you think that you connect to? you have to connect to a server. It doesn't matter that you can't host a game, it still has to be hosted by From. They could just use the solutions above on their master server, so that people can use mods in single player, and not multiplayer.

[Yes

And the fact you dont get a server list doesn't change it isn't a singler server system. When you play you host and if you decide to invade, then you log on them hosting.

The fact that it doesn't say "host game" doesn't change that how the mechanics of it work. game you play isn't hosted off site. It is hosted on site unless you invade. Portal system.

get with the program. Only real barrier for the PC is that the locally hosted data is subject to change by the owner because the PC is open where as the console isn't.

I don't think you guys get what I mean by hosting. What I mean is that, you don't start a server. You're always online even if you aren't playing with other players. Yes, you host when you invite people to your game, but you don't start your own server to regulate between players who are modded and not. Which is why modding would break it.

 

[Korten12]

wrong. there is obviously hosting. just because it's automated in the p2p system doesn't mean there is no hosting. things like that are not hard to mod. it wouldn't take modders long to create a fully functional mods. of course, only people who actually have and run the mod can play in this alternate version of the game.
mw2 for example has "no hosting", as you call it, still there is alter iw net with mods and everything.

i don't think you understand what a mod is. a mod is not a change on MY game, with wich i then proceed to play with people who have the unmodded game. think of it more as of an fan-made addon to the game. only people who run the mod play together.

You don't understand. THERE IS HOSTING. What do you think that you connect to? you have to connect to a server. It doesn't matter that you can't host a game, it still has to be hosted by From. They could just use the solutions above on their master server, so that people can use mods in single player, and not multiplayer.

[Yes

And the fact you dont get a server list doesn't change it isn't a singler server system. When you play you host and if you decide to invade, then you log on them hosting.

The fact that it doesn't say "host game" doesn't change that how the mechanics of it work. game you play isn't hosted off site. It is hosted on site unless you invade. Portal system.

get with the program. Only real barrier for the PC is that the locally hosted data is subject to change by the owner because the PC is open where as the console isn't.

I don't think you guys get what I mean by hosting. What I mean is that, you don't start a server. You're always online even if you aren't playing with other players. Yes, you host when you invite people to your game, but you don't start your own server to regulate between players who are modded and not. Which is why modding would break it.

And you dont understand how it works.

No1 has said it will be like hosting a TF2 server, yet you still host the game. You simply dont know what you are talking about. You can easily set it up with mods and a portal system. I mentioned multiple examples where they have done it. Mods are a non issue.

You just need to make a single standardised portal for multiplayer. And you need to do that for any type of multiplayer. Its a non-problem. I dont know how many times i can keep explaining the same thing and you keep getting it wrong.

Yet you keep saying Portal System but you don't EXPLAIN HOW IT WOULD WORK. How would you regulate Modders and such? Explain to me that.

But as I said, PC Gamers don't seem to want Dark Souls, they just want another game they can Mod because apparently Vanilla isn't good enough.

 

[Rattler5150]

i'm done being upset about games not coming to pc,, if they dont want my money,, screw them

 

[TrevHead]

Ild always imagined DS to be this: There is a number of master servers which handle such things as messages and ghost images, when you invade another players game their console becomes the host.

Or am I wrong is it all on the same server?

 

[Kathinka]

wrong. there is obviously hosting. just because it's automated in the p2p system doesn't mean there is no hosting. things like that are not hard to mod. it wouldn't take modders long to create a fully functional mods. of course, only people who actually have and run the mod can play in this alternate version of the game.
mw2 for example has "no hosting", as you call it, still there is alter iw net with mods and everything.

i don't think you understand what a mod is. a mod is not a change on MY game, with wich i then proceed to play with people who have the unmodded game. think of it more as of an fan-made addon to the game. only people who run the mod play together.

You don't understand. THERE IS HOSTING. What do you think that you connect to? you have to connect to a server. It doesn't matter that you can't host a game, it still has to be hosted by From. They could just use the solutions above on their master server, so that people can use mods in single player, and not multiplayer.

[Yes

And the fact you dont get a server list doesn't change it isn't a singler server system. When you play you host and if you decide to invade, then you log on them hosting.

The fact that it doesn't say "host game" doesn't change that how the mechanics of it work. game you play isn't hosted off site. It is hosted on site unless you invade. Portal system.

get with the program. Only real barrier for the PC is that the locally hosted data is subject to change by the owner because the PC is open where as the console isn't.

I don't think you guys get what I mean by hosting. What I mean is that, you don't start a server. You're always online even if you aren't playing with other players. Yes, you host when you invite people to your game, but you don't start your own server to regulate between players who are modded and not. Which is why modding would break it.

it would be easy enough to mod the game so that you run a seperate .exe, or the exe with a parameter perhaps, to start the mod, wich then would only allow connections from games with the same mod version running. it's not really an issue, not in the slightest. we are talking full conversion mods here of course, not just some UT mutators.

 

[Ickorus]

Im gonna give it to you straight, TB is saying From Software could do a lot more with their game if they removed the limitations placed upon them by developing purely for consoles.

He is correct but not all of us believe From Software should change the game even if they could.

For me, all I want in a PC release of Dark Souls is a higher view distance and the possibility of better framerates; nothing major.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

[HEADING=1]28.000[/HEADING]

28 people have signed the petition? You got a long way to go.

But seriously, is everyone who comments on that video in the running for Biggest Douche in the Universe? Because all of them would make strong contenders. This elitism is the worst thing to happen to gaming. The kind of people that participate in these "Console wars" deserve everyone's hatred. I gotta wonder how they live with themselves. How can you be such a fanatical asshole about something so stupid, and... be okay with yourself? I could live a thousand years and I will never understand these kind of elitists. At least you can understand the high society, rich elitists, you know? They're still assholes, but they're taking pride in their refinement--something they've worked at (I guess.) The console war elitists, on the other hand, are arguing about something that is not a part of them, that they didn't make, and that anyone can get into (BY BUYING ONE!) It is impossible for me to wrap my mind around this. I have tried, and tried, and tried to understand these people, but I just can't.

Okay. Rant over. Now I will proceed to have no one read this.

 

[Iron Criterion]

hahah i think its great that the elitist pc crowd miss out on awesome games like this.

Dark Souls is my personal game of the year.

i own a PC, and an Xbox, but i dont feel the need to tell anyone and everyone why one is superior than the other.

get off your high horse and buy a console

I like this guy.

I'm tired of not being able to play certain games because they are on the PS3 but I don't get up in arms about it, and I'm certainly not going to buy said console just to play them. Why should PC gamers be different?

 

[Triforceformer]

Yes. A thousand times yes. All of my love (and money) to Namco-Bandai and From Software if they actually end up doing this. Because Dark Souls looks like the kind of game that is filled with so much bullshit that it goes full circle and becomes fun because of it.

 

[ohnoitsabear]

But as I said, PC Gamers don't seem to want Dark Souls, they just want another game they can Mod because apparently Vanilla isn't good enough.

I don't think you understand why PC gamers mod games.

First off, most PC gamers will not use mods on their first playthrough of a game (aside from maybe graphics mods or unofficial patches) because most of them DO want to play the game the way the developers intended.

Most PC gamers will only start modding after they have finished a game in order to keep subsequent playthroughs fresh and interesting . The fact that the game won't be exactly the same as the last time you played it gives a lot of motivation to play the game again, thus greatly increasing its lifespan.

However, most PC gamers won't get to the point of heavily modding the game unless they enjoy the game the developers created. Modding isn't a sign of dissatisfaction with the product, but instead a great passion for it.

I'm not saying that there should be mods for a theoretical PC version of Dark Souls. I've never played the game, and therefore have no idea how well mods would work in the game. But I thought you should understand why people would want mods for this.

 

[DustyDrB]

Jesus Christ, can they just release a statement and tell us if they are going to do it or not? This is getting ridiculous.

Everywhere, console fanboys are shitting themselves and whining because they couldnt deal with yet another title joining the PC and leaving consoles behind, while the PC fanboys are bitching about how much better the platform is and blablabla. I am so sick of this bullshit.

Just shut the fuck up, all of you, sign the petition if you want it, leave it be if you dont, and stop making such asses out of yourselves.

Why do you want it on PC? So we can hear the PC fanboys complain about more "console ports"? If you spend large amounts of money on a comp built for gaming you're just going to have to accept that not every game is going to be available. The console fans accept this (hell they have to considering how many games are PC exclusive) so why can the PC fans suck it up and do the same?

The only reason this whole debate flared up is because an employee said they are considering a PC port. Whats the damn problem?

Yeah. The Escapist is single-minded on its PC vs console debate lately (lately meaning months and months and months). It's time to move on, people.

Move on to what? To the new, exciting gaming platform:

Spoiler

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/non sequitur

 

[Korten12]

But as I said, PC Gamers don't seem to want Dark Souls, they just want another game they can Mod because apparently Vanilla isn't good enough.

I don't think you understand why PC gamers mod games.

First off, most PC gamers will not use mods on their first playthrough of a game (aside from maybe graphics mods or unofficial patches) because most of them DO want to play the game the way the developers intended.

Most PC gamers will only start modding after they have finished a game in order to keep subsequent playthroughs fresh and interesting . The fact that the game won't be exactly the same as the last time you played it gives a lot of motivation to play the game again, thus greatly increasing its lifespan.

However, most PC gamers won't get to the point of heavily modding the game unless they enjoy the game the developers created. Modding isn't a sign of dissatisfaction with the product, but instead a great passion for it.

I'm not saying that there should be mods for a theoretical PC version of Dark Souls. I've never played the game, and therefore have no idea how well mods would work in the game. But I thought you should understand why people would want mods for this.

Well the thing is that Dark Souls doesn't end when you beat it. You go to NG+ immediatly and you continue going on as the game gets increasingly more difficult. But the thing is that Dark Souls doesn't lend itself to modding.

There is no large open area's like Skyrim where you can find somewhere with nothing and add like a Castle. Dark Souls while you can go exploring is tightly crafted and there is no extra.

 

[Exius Xavarus]

Only thing that I don't know how they will get around is the control scheme. This game was made to be played on the PS3/360 controller pad...

Then plug in a PS3/Xbox controller.

I'm getting sick of having to say that.

Console accessories are just as crappy as the consoles themselves. If you want to play PC, use a keyboard and mouse, otherwise it's pointless.

You do realize that playing Dark Souls with a mouse and keyboard is going to be CONSIDERABLY more difficult than with an Xbox or PS3 controller, yes? I understand that it's do-able, but Dark Souls has quite an intricate control scheme, which is most likely not going to work well with a keyboard and mouse. Not to mention, not every game has to be played with a keyboard and mouse, and some people(like myself) actually DO prefer a controller of some sort for games like Dark Souls. It's okay to have an opinion, but when you start acting like what you think is fact, then you're crossing a line. Your ignorance and your arrogance are showing, I think you should take care of that.

I can't say a Dark Souls PC port sits well with me. Although, I supposed I'm a little biased because many a person I have met who are PC gamers tend to lore over my head the fact that they can do more with a game than I can on a console, nevermind the fact that I can't actually afford a rig that powerful.

 

[ohnoitsabear]

But as I said, PC Gamers don't seem to want Dark Souls, they just want another game they can Mod because apparently Vanilla isn't good enough.

I don't think you understand why PC gamers mod games.

First off, most PC gamers will not use mods on their first playthrough of a game (aside from maybe graphics mods or unofficial patches) because most of them DO want to play the game the way the developers intended.

Most PC gamers will only start modding after they have finished a game in order to keep subsequent playthroughs fresh and interesting . The fact that the game won't be exactly the same as the last time you played it gives a lot of motivation to play the game again, thus greatly increasing its lifespan.

However, most PC gamers won't get to the point of heavily modding the game unless they enjoy the game the developers created. Modding isn't a sign of dissatisfaction with the product, but instead a great passion for it.

I'm not saying that there should be mods for a theoretical PC version of Dark Souls. I've never played the game, and therefore have no idea how well mods would work in the game. But I thought you should understand why people would want mods for this.

Well the thing is that Dark Souls doesn't end when you beat it. You go to NG+ immediatly and you continue going on as the game gets increasingly more difficult. But the thing is that Dark Souls doesn't lend itself to modding.

There is no large open area's like Skyrim where you can find somewhere with nothing and add like a Castle. Dark Souls while you can go exploring is tightly crafted and there is no extra.

That's totally okay. A lot of games don't lend themselves well to modding, and they aren't any worse because of it.

I think a lot of people have the idea that because this game is an RPG, it would be very moddable. This isn't an unreasonable assumption, as a large amount of RPGs have great mods. People that haven't played the game (which probably a majority of the people asking for the PC version) are unlikely to know how the game works, and why it would be an exception to the RPGs being great for modding rule.