Darwinsim V.S. Creationism

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deciusbrutus

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banhammer said:
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I'm not sure what "it" is, but I wouldn't put it past you to say "Creationism."

Kindly stop trolling.
Of course "it" is Creationism. That is what the topic of the thread is. As for not talking to people in the south, that is just a stupid comment. Streotyping if you will. There are alot of smart people from the south and saying there is not you are showing how stupid you are. Why do you all think Darwinism is not real? (Specific reasons please.)
Dude.
How can I say this...
I have no idea what you're saying.
Are you saying it's only a matter of time before Creationism is a fact?
I so, I must say I disagree with you strongly...

Noooo, Darwinism will be fact. Not Creationism. Thats just silly.
No, Darwinism will be replaced by a more refined theory, and that one will be replaced, and so on, until the scientific method dies from entropy.
 

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Glefistus said:
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It is only called the "theory of evolution" because there is no conceivable way to prove it, but for all effects and purposes, evolution is scientific fact. Also, it is called

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It's called the THEORY of Gravity, because there's no way to proove 100% that gravity is actually why things are attracted to other things. It's called the Germ THEORY of disease because there's no way to proove 100% that people get sick because they are infected by microbiological organisms.

When are people going to realize that THEORY is different from HYPOTHESIS. When people say the Theory of Evolution, consider that on par with the Theory of Gravity and the Germ Theory of disease. If you're going to tell me that gravity and germs aren't real, I look forward to hearing your evidence.
Germs aren't real because the lord smites people with sickness because of their sins, and gravity is only the hand of god keeping you from floating into space and dying.

Go with Christ,
~Glef
I guess I can't disprove that 100%, can I? What a cruel twist of fate, to find that nothing is ever 100%. I guess I'll just have to chalk all of life's mysteries up to "God did it," move on with life, and maybe say che sera, sera a couple of times.
isn't it Que, not che?
It was "che" when I read it in Clive Barker's short story "The Yattering and Jack," but maybe Mr. Barker didn't do his research well, or maybe I have bad memory.
 

deciusbrutus

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Glefistus said:
Kpt._Rob said:
Glefistus said:
Kpt._Rob said:
Glefistus said:
It is only called the "theory of evolution" because there is no conceivable way to prove it, but for all effects and purposes, evolution is scientific fact. Also, it is called

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It's called the THEORY of Gravity, because there's no way to proove 100% that gravity is actually why things are attracted to other things. It's called the Germ THEORY of disease because there's no way to proove 100% that people get sick because they are infected by microbiological organisms.

When are people going to realize that THEORY is different from HYPOTHESIS. When people say the Theory of Evolution, consider that on par with the Theory of Gravity and the Germ Theory of disease. If you're going to tell me that gravity and germs aren't real, I look forward to hearing your evidence.
Germs aren't real because the lord smites people with sickness because of their sins, and gravity is only the hand of god keeping you from floating into space and dying.

Go with Christ,
~Glef
I guess I can't disprove that 100%, can I? What a cruel twist of fate, to find that nothing is ever 100%. I guess I'll just have to chalk all of life's mysteries up to "God did it," move on with life, and maybe say che sera, sera a couple of times.
isn't it Que, not che?
From Wikipedia:
The phrase also appears as "Che sera, sera / What will be, shall be" in the sixteenth century English play Doctor Faustus by Christopher Marlowe (Act 1, scene 1).

I was about to call him on the same thing, but Googled it first...
 

banhammer

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I think people take my threads the wrong way. I am being serious about believing in Darwinism and I do think Bush is a good president all things considered. There is no reason to be so hostile. I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me.
 

Yog Sothoth

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It's not called "Darwinism" (which you misspelled in the thread title!), it's called natural selection or evolutionary biology.

Only creationists call it Darwinism...
 

Peach_hat

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Sucks to be from Georgia if that's how people from Georgia talk about people from Georgia.
 

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mrcheese said:
I'm not 100% sure why it isn't widely known, but evolution has been observed and confirmed under laboratory conditions.

Using cultures of e-coli frozen every few thousand generations they were able to observe the bacteria evolving to metabolise a new food source in their environment, one that initially killed them. Thanks to the frozen samples they pinpointed when the genetic change took place and repeated the experiment using samples with and without the specific mutation which led to the evolutionary change.

Still, it'll never stop creationists claiming it's just a theory. Gravity was a theory once too.
Gravity is still a theory, technically. You can prove a theory correct, but somehow it's still a theory. We know evolution is true, since we've genetically reversed engineered a chicken to have teeth. We're soon going to have half-dinosaur chickens as well. :D
 

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banhammer said:
I think people take my threads the wrong way. I am being serious about believing in Darwinism and I do think Bush is a good president all things considered. There is no reason to be so hostile. I just wanted to see if anyone agreed with me.
You believe that Darwinism is legit AND that Bush was a good president. I'm confused, because believing in Darwinism makes me think you have some logical ground to stand on, but believing that Bush was a great president makes me think you might still go to bed early on Christmas because you're afraid Santa knows when you're sleeping and knows when you're awake.
 

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I don't think I can think of a more old and tired argument/thread/discussion/debate other than "Is [something] over-rated?!"
 

banhammer

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There are also religions that were around much longer than Creationism, such as the Greek Gods. But that religion died out because people realized how silly it was. How long will it take before all of todays religions are replaced by something else?
 

Yog Sothoth

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You guys should all stop referring to evolution as Darwinism. It sounds uneducated, and it's really bugging me....
 

deciusbrutus

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Devilpapaya said:
God created creatures with the ability evolve/adapt, see, now everyone is happy

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For sufficiently vague definitions of "god", I might agree.

Science has this one blind spot: It cannot conceive of, nor test, any question of "Why?" as regards a first principle.

So, you can say "God is the reason that all objects with mass expert an attractive force on all other objects with mass." or even "God is the causative reason that evolution occurs."

But saying "God made the creatures, and he made them with the ability to evolve." is patently meaningless in any practical sense.
 

Haydyn

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Dang, and I thought my old forums had too many "Science vs Religion" threads.

If people don't want to believe in Macro Evolution, don't try to force them, or insult them for their beliefs. I know some people are trying to convert people to Creationism, but on these forums, I see more people bashing Creationists than Creationists bashing people.

Can't we just drop the threads about Religion and Evolution? I've learned the hard way that even if someone you are arguing with is clearly wrong, it's best to just not argue at all, because somebody's likely to get banned. No one is going to change sides in this SvR (not the game) battle just because of some forum posts.

Creationist: Hmm, Evolution does make sence. I think I'll just forget all my religious beliefs.

Evolutionist: Hmm, I guess we would need a divine being. I think I will just go find a church and start reading the longest book ever written.

It doesn't work that way. You are not changing anyone's mind by posting on online forums (so much irony.)
 

Devilpapaya

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Glefistus said:
Devilpapaya said:
God created creatures with the ability evolve/adapt, see, now everyone is happy

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I'M NOT NOTHING CHANGES/EXISTS OUTSIDE OF GOD'S WILL, HE HAS TO CHANGE EVERY SINGLE NUCLEOTIDE IN YOU GENES TO MAKE YOU EVOLVE HIMSELF!
Lawl k, that doesn't really contradict my point. If god is omnipotent I'm pretty sure its well within his power to control the evolution of every being in the universe at any given time, but it's still evolution and still god's will.

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mrcheese said:
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Gravity is still a theory, technically.
Nope, it's a law.
Even if someone doesn't believe in it? I'm pretty sure I could come up with some crazy idea to replace gravity. Like a bunch of fairies pushing us down onto the ground so we don't fly off.

I of course believe in it, but there are 'some people' that don't.