"Dating" and when you're considered to be in a relationship!!!

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Lexodus

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Regularly hanging out, several dates, or actually confirm it with her (i.e 'be my girlfriend' kind of talk) :)
 

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ham and red bull said:
b1u3too said:
Now I can't do much an advice, but I'm a chick and a little bit of a special case. I hung out with a lot of guys in high school, but I considered it all friendzone. It got really fekking awkward when one of the blimeys got drunk and asked me out while walking me home from the public park in which he got drunk. Lesson: Be careful of the cockblocking friendzone, it's a killer.

Now, make sure you're actually reading her actions right, because men do tend to think ladies are flirting when they really aren't, they're just trying to be courteous. Since she said she actually likes you though, I assume that's not a problem. I don't know about her, but I'm an oblivious cockblock to myself, and didn't realize a guy liked me until he straight up put his bleeding arm around me in the movie theatre. Which is great, because I am quite attracted to him as well. Sometimes, it takes the obvious moves to make us gals realize that a guy is into us as well, and because we're told that being the demure damsel in distress (Earliest 3D trend), making the first move is a little out of the usual for us.

Now, I recommend being upfront. Ask her: "Will you be my girlfriend," or some other cultural equivalent. Make your interest explicit. I'm not sure how exactly, but I can give my personal example: After the first date, as he was walking me to my door, I simply said "Look, if you want to go out with me, you have to come and have a family dinner with my father." Yessum. I'm that old-school. But that actually got him really excited. Seriously, I think he almost wet himself. The effect rubbed off on me too, and there was, of course, the million nervous goodbyes as I snuck into my door, and the racing thought of "Dayum, do I kiss him or not?". Went inside without doing so.

Flung my foot back and kicked my self immediately in the ass.

But it was all good, he actually came over the next day to meet my parents, and that's when we knew it was official. That night we were watching movies in my parent's house, and that was also my first kiss-- On my parent's couch, watching Edward Norton/ Tyler Durden get his ass kicked. (Fight Club, if you ask me, is a good geek-date movie.) I can't speak for all the ladies, but I think the first kiss demands just a little privacy.

AND THEN STEAMY HOT SEX. Just kidding.

That's the tale of my first boyfriend and first kiss. OP, I wish this all goes well for you. I can't speak for your girl specifically, but sometimes we like the man to take the reigns on the official status of the relationship. Making it clear that you're dating is the easier step, but I'm not so sure about the whole couple thing. By this point, my significant other and I have been called a couple quite a few times-- I think it might have to do with the variety of activities you two do together, such as whether or not you can both be in the same house and get work (school, job, otherwise) done, with the other around. Perhaps it's the question of whether or not you two are a functional unit when you are together. I don't know.

TBH, he's my first too, and we're at the three-months-and-a-bit-mark. To be fair, we're both first years in university, and he's got a few exes behind him. Just so's you know where all this babble is coming from.

tl;dr - Don't be afraid. Take the rains. Chickas like that. GL HF.
First of all I would like to thank you for taking the time to formulate such a long, but clever text.

The story behind me and this girl is a little weird, since we're both newbies. As I have mentioned we are both taking a dancing class, which is also were we met. I've seen her around school, but never wanted to or did talk to her. This may make me sounds like a douche bag, but my friend told me to get a girl quickly for the prom. I had to decide between her and her friend.

At around the 4. class (we have one class per week), our coach gave us the thumbs up to start asking. That same day I found out that this other guy that goes to the class is in the same class as both of them, and has already asked the other candidate. Which is why I jumped at the chance to ask my current interest, before she got stolen away.

I first noticed she was into me when we were dancing, and after each dance, she would slide her arm down mine in a very flirtatious way. We then started joke flirting with each other. After I got her number I called her and asked her out. She agreed.

We decided to go downtown. We walked around a lot, looked at some stores, but mostly talked. After about an hour I thought fuck it and took her hand, she didn't resist. The date ended with me walking her home and a last "I had fun, we should do this again" talk and a hug.

I asked her out again a couple of days later, but she said she couldn't, which really blew my confidence, which is why I freaked out a bit and started asking her things like: "did you tell anyone we were dating?" "If you don't like me just say it!" etc.

The next dance class we talked again and I apologized for being an asshole. (Just a little note, we went on the date before I asked her to the prom). Now we cuddle a little after each dance, and flirt a lot.

I asked her again to go out with me, and again she said she couldn't. By now I know she has a busy schedule (so do I), but she even said "we should hang out another time! :)"

So that's my little story.
Hey man, no problem. With this kind of thing, it just helps to talk it out, be that with a complete stranger, or otherwise. For me, if I'm worried I peeved off my sweetiebear over long distance, I text his mom. :p Otherwise, I just call him up, or wait until I see him face to face to ask if something's bothering him, or tell him that something's bothering me. It helps to be real.

I know now that prom's coming up, and there's a lot of pressure to get a girl and do the usual thing that comes along with prom. now I don't know your lady, but sometimes us gals that don't want rash, teenage relationships get on the super-defensive come prom time. (I personally was asked out by three seperate men prior to prom, and refused all of them-- These were people who had never shown any interest in me as a person prior, and I was suspicious. There is the possibility that she has assigned your advances to this category, even though to me it seems you two are both sincerely interested.)

Okay, before I give you another essay, I'll cut myself off: Ask her if she's comfortable telling you why you two can't go out again. Try not to be too forceful though-- Giving her the impression that you are willing to wait can numb down her perceptions of "another guy trying to score a date for prom".

Best of luck, from a fellow noob. :3
 

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What is considered dating? How's it different from just hanging out?
I've always considered it dating when someone asks a girl to be with them and either she or you say "no, they're with me, I'm sorry" and actaully mean it. Plus, its when hanging out means alot more to you then just going out. Like, if you hang out once a week and then for some reason you cant one week, you get really down.

Also, at what stage can you say: "we're not just dating, we're a couple?"
when it gets more serious then when its the just dating step? I dont know, I think its a kinda mutual thing that you odnt really get but you just kinda know.

when you...
...had your first girlfriend/boyfriend, if you had one?
first real gf? when I was 12. Loved her. Just absolutely.

...had your first real kiss (not talking about kindergarten "girlfriends")?
probably.... three months after I starting dating?
 

ThePizzaGuy556

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To me theres like 3 stages

1. You have a thing, like you both like each other and know it but dont really act on it
2. dating...s you like hang out and stuff but nothing offical.
3. When the relationship becomes really intimate and you've decided you dont wanna romantically or sexually be involved with anyone else atm.

Idk thats usually the stages my relationships follow
also forgot

had your first girlfriend?
7th grade lol

...had your first real kiss?
on the bus on the way to school, i felt bad though i kinda used her as practice for the girl i wanted to actually date :T
 

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When you're both in agreement to the terms initially laid out, provided you are amenable to future changes such as health, economic stability, and other life-altering events.
 

Manchubot

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I would say when you formally ask her out is the only way to know if the relationship is progressing.

I had my first actual girlfriend at 16 which lasted a year and a half(I don't count 2 1 month flings as actually dating at ages 13 and 14)

Finally first kiss was Freshman Year homecoming when I was 14
 

ham and red bull

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b1u3too said:
ham and red bull said:
b1u3too said:
Now I can't do much an advice, but I'm a chick and a little bit of a special case. I hung out with a lot of guys in high school, but I considered it all friendzone. It got really fekking awkward when one of the blimeys got drunk and asked me out while walking me home from the public park in which he got drunk. Lesson: Be careful of the cockblocking friendzone, it's a killer.

Now, make sure you're actually reading her actions right, because men do tend to think ladies are flirting when they really aren't, they're just trying to be courteous. Since she said she actually likes you though, I assume that's not a problem. I don't know about her, but I'm an oblivious cockblock to myself, and didn't realize a guy liked me until he straight up put his bleeding arm around me in the movie theatre. Which is great, because I am quite attracted to him as well. Sometimes, it takes the obvious moves to make us gals realize that a guy is into us as well, and because we're told that being the demure damsel in distress (Earliest 3D trend), making the first move is a little out of the usual for us.

Now, I recommend being upfront. Ask her: "Will you be my girlfriend," or some other cultural equivalent. Make your interest explicit. I'm not sure how exactly, but I can give my personal example: After the first date, as he was walking me to my door, I simply said "Look, if you want to go out with me, you have to come and have a family dinner with my father." Yessum. I'm that old-school. But that actually got him really excited. Seriously, I think he almost wet himself. The effect rubbed off on me too, and there was, of course, the million nervous goodbyes as I snuck into my door, and the racing thought of "Dayum, do I kiss him or not?". Went inside without doing so.

Flung my foot back and kicked my self immediately in the ass.

But it was all good, he actually came over the next day to meet my parents, and that's when we knew it was official. That night we were watching movies in my parent's house, and that was also my first kiss-- On my parent's couch, watching Edward Norton/ Tyler Durden get his ass kicked. (Fight Club, if you ask me, is a good geek-date movie.) I can't speak for all the ladies, but I think the first kiss demands just a little privacy.

AND THEN STEAMY HOT SEX. Just kidding.

That's the tale of my first boyfriend and first kiss. OP, I wish this all goes well for you. I can't speak for your girl specifically, but sometimes we like the man to take the reigns on the official status of the relationship. Making it clear that you're dating is the easier step, but I'm not so sure about the whole couple thing. By this point, my significant other and I have been called a couple quite a few times-- I think it might have to do with the variety of activities you two do together, such as whether or not you can both be in the same house and get work (school, job, otherwise) done, with the other around. Perhaps it's the question of whether or not you two are a functional unit when you are together. I don't know.

TBH, he's my first too, and we're at the three-months-and-a-bit-mark. To be fair, we're both first years in university, and he's got a few exes behind him. Just so's you know where all this babble is coming from.

tl;dr - Don't be afraid. Take the rains. Chickas like that. GL HF.
First of all I would like to thank you for taking the time to formulate such a long, but clever text.

The story behind me and this girl is a little weird, since we're both newbies. As I have mentioned we are both taking a dancing class, which is also were we met. I've seen her around school, but never wanted to or did talk to her. This may make me sounds like a douche bag, but my friend told me to get a girl quickly for the prom. I had to decide between her and her friend.

At around the 4. class (we have one class per week), our coach gave us the thumbs up to start asking. That same day I found out that this other guy that goes to the class is in the same class as both of them, and has already asked the other candidate. Which is why I jumped at the chance to ask my current interest, before she got stolen away.

I first noticed she was into me when we were dancing, and after each dance, she would slide her arm down mine in a very flirtatious way. We then started joke flirting with each other. After I got her number I called her and asked her out. She agreed.

We decided to go downtown. We walked around a lot, looked at some stores, but mostly talked. After about an hour I thought fuck it and took her hand, she didn't resist. The date ended with me walking her home and a last "I had fun, we should do this again" talk and a hug.

I asked her out again a couple of days later, but she said she couldn't, which really blew my confidence, which is why I freaked out a bit and started asking her things like: "did you tell anyone we were dating?" "If you don't like me just say it!" etc.

The next dance class we talked again and I apologized for being an asshole. (Just a little note, we went on the date before I asked her to the prom). Now we cuddle a little after each dance, and flirt a lot.

I asked her again to go out with me, and again she said she couldn't. By now I know she has a busy schedule (so do I), but she even said "we should hang out another time! :)"

So that's my little story.
Hey man, no problem. With this kind of thing, it just helps to talk it out, be that with a complete stranger, or otherwise. For me, if I'm worried I peeved off my sweetiebear over long distance, I text his mom. :p Otherwise, I just call him up, or wait until I see him face to face to ask if something's bothering him, or tell him that something's bothering me. It helps to be real.

I know now that prom's coming up, and there's a lot of pressure to get a girl and do the usual thing that comes along with prom. now I don't know your lady, but sometimes us gals that don't want rash, teenage relationships get on the super-defensive come prom time. (I personally was asked out by three seperate men prior to prom, and refused all of them-- These were people who had never shown any interest in me as a person prior, and I was suspicious. There is the possibility that she has assigned your advances to this category, even though to me it seems you two are both sincerely interested.)

Okay, before I give you another essay, I'll cut myself off: Ask her if she's comfortable telling you why you two can't go out again. Try not to be too forceful though-- Giving her the impression that you are willing to wait can numb down her perceptions of "another guy trying to score a date for prom".

Best of luck, from a fellow noob. :3
It's not a school prom, by "prom" I mean a final dance party organised by the dance school we both visit. It can be an excuse to talk to a girl, but everybody is going anyway.

I'm taking all your guys' advice, hang out with her, keep calm, and maybe have a serious talk once things really start to kick off. :D

NEWB FIVE!!!
 

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ham and red bull said:
Three exclamation marks means serious business!

I've been hanging out with this one girl I know from my formal dance class.
I can tell she's into me (because for one she told me, but also because she's very flirtatious)
I guess you could say we've gone out on a "date", and this is were my question comes from:

What is considered dating? How's it different from just hanging out?

Also, at what stage can you say: "we're not just dating, we're a couple?"


And it would also interest me to know when you guys:

...had your first girlfriend/boyfriend, if you had one?

...had your first real kiss (not talking about kindergarten "girlfriends")?


Edit: I'm really glad you guys are keeping this mature and not just saying: "PUT YOUR DICK IN IT!!!". Guess there's a reason the escapist is the best forum in the world.
Dating: When your social interactions go from 'friendly' or 'flirtatious' to 'romantic.'

Couple: When you decide, as a pair, to be romantically exclusive.

First Real Kiss: Fuck if I can remember.

Put your dick in it: You really should.