David Cameron calls for all teens to do community service.
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Yeah. You know what makes me a lot happier about social injustice or - as the rioters initially claimed - a suspicious death involving an armed man against armed police officers?ChaoticKraus said:
A new pair of trainers. Really helps me sleep at night.
OT: The whole concept is ridiculous. As someone who's done voluntary community service - it's great when you're into it. Wonderful, and the people can be lovely.
The best way to ruin that nice feeling is forcing people to do it. Way to break it, Hero.
I'm not sure whether the quote ?If we had some sort of compulsory service, even if it was only for six months or three months, I?d certainly be a taker.? was attributed to Cameron, or Johnson. I think it's the latter, but I can't find the quote elsewhere.ToastiestZombie said:
HA ZA! I have figured out the problem!ToastiestZombie said:
In my Secondary school, It was mandatory to complete forty hours of community service within the four year They don't care when you do it as long as when you graduate, you have them. no community service, no diploma.
do they have this in England?
Sweden seems a really liberal place to live, with them legalizing gay marriage and teaching about it in school, for example. It just seems like a lovely place, but then again I can't know until I visit.Elcarsh said:
Madness... THIS. IS. BRITAIN!!!!Th3Ch33s3Cak3 said:This is blasphemy, this is madness!
The goverment can't possibly force you to do this! If you don't want to do the service, refuse taking part. Many people did nothing wrong. I say that there should be a boycott.
Although this dosen't apply to me, because I'm chilling out in Ireland
For those of you who don't speak fluent political tripe, or didn't follow the link; this isn't compulsory. He's suggesting cultivating a social stigma to go with non-participation, but he's in no way suggesting it's a legal requirement.
EDIT: Though he may have liked the idea of making it compulsory, even Cameron isn't stupid enough to think he could push that through; it'd be a human rights violation, plain and simple.
EDIT: Though he may have liked the idea of making it compulsory, even Cameron isn't stupid enough to think he could push that through; it'd be a human rights violation, plain and simple.
Well done, much better than my boring response. I shall give you, 10 internets!Da Orky Man said:Madness... THIS. IS. BRITAIN!!!!Th3Ch33s3Cak3 said:This is blasphemy, this is madness!
The goverment can't possibly force you to do this! If you don't want to do the service, refuse taking part. Many people did nothing wrong. I say that there should be a boycott.
Although this dosen't apply to me, because I'm chilling out in Ireland
I'm going to second that as well, seeing as yes, they actually do nothing but stay at home which is ridiculous.ToastiestZombie said:
It technically isn't free, we are paying for it through taxes... just saying. Maybe at 16, but not for your parents and when you turn 18. Plus I highly doubt most people will find it fun, and if everyone does it then its not going to add much to a CV. Although community service is obviously a good thing, it shouldn't be mandatory for everyone to do it, especially for those working full time jobs who barely have enough free time as it is.Danny Roberts said:
Now community service for people on benefits is a whole other argument which I don't want to get into.
since you missed the pre-emptive one: shut the FUCK up. Those services you use are not dependent on the taxes you don't pay.Adam28 said:
That's a lot of assuming there. It'll do wonders for your CV if you choose something relevant to what you want to do. If you don't know what to do this could help you find out. Why is this learning, enlightening opportunity for you lot being seen as a chore? If I had my way you'd all be doing a year in the forces at 16.
Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately, as a teenager, I'm going to end up having to live through his nightmare. I narrowly escaped the mandatory sixth form thing (although I'm going into it anyway, because I'm not so stupid as to think I can get anything more than a supermarket/fast food job without it. (I don't know a "trade", as it were.) He's essentially trying to pack as many people into higher education as possible, even though it isn't for everyone. Things like University used to just be necessary for the people who were going to do the big stuff. Over the past few years (admittedly before he came into his administration) everyone has been encouraged to go off to Uni. Now suddenly "Oh, too much financial risk, let's triple the cost to students and get rid of the 21k salary repayment scheme!" Pick one, mate. And even then, tripling is a bit much. Or you could just leave it as is and stop trying to give everyone Diplomas that a lot of people don't need.Verlander said:
So long as it's optional i'm fine with it- i.e- make voluntary schemes more widespread and open to young teenagers, but not mandatory. It would also help young adults like university students whom could volunteer to help run these volunteer programs in order to improve their CV to help them get jobs.
What i would object to is making it mandatory. The state should not be allowed to force people to do things "for their own good"- they can encourage by all means, but never by force.
What i would object to is making it mandatory. The state should not be allowed to force people to do things "for their own good"- they can encourage by all means, but never by force.
Just like what was said in Critical Miss, don't blame anything. If you want to put blame for the riots on someone, blame it on the rioters. You know, because without rioters, there would be no riots, right? It is the responsibility of the people to maintain self-control.
Muhahaha I'm 20, so they can't make me do it!
And I agree about this being extreme, but I think it is a good idea, there is never enough volunteers/ criminals for what could be done to make Britain nicer, especially London. And a little community service (labour) is good for building character. I'm always too busy with work then too tired to even think about criminal activity.
And I agree about this being extreme, but I think it is a good idea, there is never enough volunteers/ criminals for what could be done to make Britain nicer, especially London. And a little community service (labour) is good for building character. I'm always too busy with work then too tired to even think about criminal activity.