Dead island reveal trailer, piece of art or too far?

[Seneschal]

Umm how come Feast 2 got away with so much worse? Such bullshit a movie can do so much worse but a video game that is tastefully done can't.

feast 2?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpKBTTv1lgs&feature=related

Watch at your own risk. It is disturbing. Seriously disturbing. I am not kidding. If you can't handle the Dead Island trailer do not watch this.

Aww come on, it's funny! The Feast series are supposed to be horror comedies, and here you have a guy holding a baby upside-down and goofy monsters sprinting after him. The thing at the end is just a subversion of horror "rules", which the first one had too.

The Dead Island trailer is pretty ballsy, but because of that it has more weight than your average videogame trailer.

 

[phelan511]

This game pretty much shows how an average person would react in something like this. Your daughter was attacked and turned, and then your loving daughter is trying to rip your jugular out. Do I allow her because shes my daughter? No. I survive. Make more kids afterwards. Might make me seem like a cold hearted person but lets face it. Whats the point in allowing myself to get killed by a zombified family member?

 

[kouriichi]

It was emotional?

I really didnt feel anything for it.

People, THEYER JUST PIXELS. They arnt real. They dont exist. If you feel emotional for something that never existed, you should probably see a shrink.

I mean, i watched Titanic, and i felt alittle sad. Sure everyone was just an actor, but its the fact it was based on real events that give emotion.

But people are feeling sad for fictional character, in a fictional world, full of fictional badies? Come on! Toughen up alittle.

So all those novelists out there are wasting their time? I'm a ***** if Apocalypse Now had me sitting around for days questioning the characters motives? There's no point discussing symbolism and getting real emotion because Kurtz and WIllard were just characters in a work of fiction?

The point of a work of fiction is to illicit emotion in the audience through the telling of a story. This is a facet of fiction that video games have left neglected by and large for too long, and I'm glad people are finally getting into it.

/GamesAreArt

Oh no, i belive games are art too. And that yes, symbolism IS GOOD. It should evoke some emotion.

But the moment it starts to interfere with everyday life is when its getting out of hand. I mean, like with Bulletstorm. Its an amazing game i want to get. But i was litterally in Wallmart yesterday and i heard mothers talking about what to get theyer son, and one of them, word for word said, "Oh no, dont get that! I heard it turns people into rapists!"

There is nothing wrong with feeling something for videogame characters. But the fact that they are JUST videogame characters is why you shouldent get to emotionally attached. Theres good emotions and bad.

The moment people start to complain that fake people are dying is when it gets out of hand. "Oh no, its not just a man and his wife, its a man his wife AND HIS CHILD THEY ALL HAVE FEELINGS BECAUSE THEYER A FAMILY! THAT MAKES IT WRONG FOR THIS GAME TO EXIST!"
Chances are there is no symbolism here. Its just a family, getting killed by zombies. If there is symbolism, its so blunt you might as well chalk it up to bad writing.

 

[GiantRaven]

The only vaguely irritating thing about the trailer is that soundtrack dissonance [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoundtrackDissonance] has become a horribly clichéd way of making something 'deep' or 'artistic'. With the content the trailer already has, the emotional connection has already been made, the reinforcement with the soundtrack is far too on the nose for my tastes.

It's a damn good trailer though. Possibly too good. Can the game really live up to this?

 

[squid5580]

Umm how come Feast 2 got away with so much worse? Such bullshit a movie can do so much worse but a video game that is tastefully done can't.

feast 2?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpKBTTv1lgs&feature=related

Watch at your own risk. It is disturbing. Seriously disturbing. I am not kidding. If you can't handle the Dead Island trailer do not watch this.

Aww come on, it's funny! The Feast series are supposed to be horror comedies, and here you have a guy holding a baby upside-down and goofy monsters sprinting after him. The thing at the end is just a subversion of horror "rules", which the first one had too.

The Dead Island trailer is pretty ballsy, but because of that it has more weight than your average videogame trailer.

No you are quite wrong. Just because that is how you felt about it doesn't mean everyone does. I was shocked the first time I saw it. I have a friend who has a huge collection of cheesey horror flicks. I mean he has them all and he turned it off after that scene and refuses to watch the rest. It is more than just a subversion of the horror rules. The Feast, Pirhana 3D (and to a lesser degree Descent) show the more realistic side of things. Just like my avatar and the trailer. And that is what makes them frightening.

 

[Seneschal]

Umm how come Feast 2 got away with so much worse? Such bullshit a movie can do so much worse but a video game that is tastefully done can't.

feast 2?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpKBTTv1lgs&feature=related

Watch at your own risk. It is disturbing. Seriously disturbing. I am not kidding. If you can't handle the Dead Island trailer do not watch this.

Aww come on, it's funny! The Feast series are supposed to be horror comedies, and here you have a guy holding a baby upside-down and goofy monsters sprinting after him. The thing at the end is just a subversion of horror "rules", which the first one had too.

The Dead Island trailer is pretty ballsy, but because of that it has more weight than your average videogame trailer.

No you are quite wrong. Just because that is how you felt about it doesn't mean everyone does. I was shocked the first time I saw it. I have a friend who has a huge collection of cheesey horror flicks. I mean he has them all and he turned it off after that scene and refuses to watch the rest. It is more than just a subversion of the horror rules. The Feast, Pirhana 3D (and to a lesser degree Descent) show the more realistic side of things. Just like my avatar and the trailer. And that is what makes them frightening.

I can agree that not everybody reacted to them the same way I did, but I was speaking from the director's perspective when I said that Feast was a tongue-in-cheek deconstruction of the average monster flick. The shock comes from your inability to predict what happens (in the 1st one, a ruggedly handsome white male called "The Hero" enters the bar and spouts one liners before getting his head bitten off a minute later), and from challenging your horror film expectations. This includes pushing the boundaries of what's tasteful, to which someone with a lower threshold for decency might take offence, yeah.

But I wouldn't call it "shock cinema", not in the sense that it wants the viewer to experience profound emotional trauma - serious films like Salo and Irreversible do it better. It's not any more realistic than 80's slashers, it just takes a more cynical "everything-goes" approach, unlike old horrors that avoided showing certain stuff. And it certainly doesn't play the horror straight - I mean, look at the baby scene, the group on the roof consists of midgets, biker chicks and old people. The tone obviously suggests it shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

[Kwaren]

I was unaffected by the trailer. I always wondered why there where no children in zombie games. It will be good for the populations in games to reflect real life. In a zombie apocalypse everyone would be affected not just adults.

 

[Paulo Sergio]

Eh. I didn't like it. For one thing it pisses me off when games tout how realistic their body destruction is, how many different places each limb can break and how many layers of tissue they have, because ultimately, it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference. As long as all the death animations don't look identical, you never notice stuff like that in-game, it's just meaningless crap for them to spout on the box.

And while this was a very well put together video, it wasn't a good trailer - in that it didn't show anything about the game, besides that it has zombies on an island. Which you can pretty much learn from the title.

Man, you're thick. Pheew!

 

[TerribleAssassin]

I thought it was well put together it also warns before viewing. So what the problem is?

If you want garbage look up 'human centipede' which isn't a game.

I had to switch that off half-way through, it was fucking sick and should only exist strange minds.

I thought it was well put together, little cliches here and there, but beautiful.

 

[GiantRaven]

Man, you're thick. Pheew!

Actually, he has some pretty valid points from the perspective of it being a videogame.

The whole body destruction aspect isn't going to have much of an effect on the gameplay and the trailer definitely doesn't show how the game will play which, to me, is pretty stupid for a new, unknown IP.

This trailer gives me absolutely no reason to be interested in the actual game.

 

[squid5580]

Umm how come Feast 2 got away with so much worse? Such bullshit a movie can do so much worse but a video game that is tastefully done can't.

feast 2?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpKBTTv1lgs&feature=related

Watch at your own risk. It is disturbing. Seriously disturbing. I am not kidding. If you can't handle the Dead Island trailer do not watch this.

Aww come on, it's funny! The Feast series are supposed to be horror comedies, and here you have a guy holding a baby upside-down and goofy monsters sprinting after him. The thing at the end is just a subversion of horror "rules", which the first one had too.

The Dead Island trailer is pretty ballsy, but because of that it has more weight than your average videogame trailer.

No you are quite wrong. Just because that is how you felt about it doesn't mean everyone does. I was shocked the first time I saw it. I have a friend who has a huge collection of cheesey horror flicks. I mean he has them all and he turned it off after that scene and refuses to watch the rest. It is more than just a subversion of the horror rules. The Feast, Pirhana 3D (and to a lesser degree Descent) show the more realistic side of things. Just like my avatar and the trailer. And that is what makes them frightening.

I can agree that not everybody reacted to them the same way I did, but I was speaking from the director's perspective when I said that Feast was a tongue-in-cheek deconstruction of the average monster flick. The shock comes from your inability to predict what happens (in the 1st one, a ruggedly handsome white male called "The Hero" enters the bar and spouts one liners before getting his head bitten off a minute later), and from challenging your horror film expectations. This includes pushing the boundaries of what's tasteful, to which someone with a lower threshold for decency might take offence, yeah.

But I wouldn't call it "shock cinema", not in the sense that it wants the viewer to experience profound emotional trauma - serious films like Salo and Irreversible do it better. It's not any more realistic than 80's slashers, it just takes a more cynical "everything-goes" approach, unlike old horrors that avoided showing certain stuff. And it certainly doesn't play the horror straight - I mean, look at the baby scene, the group on the roof consists of midgets, biker chicks and old people. The tone obviously suggests it shouldn't be taken seriously.

I am not saying there wasn't some hilarious moments in the series. I mean I damn near died laughing when they did the gunpowder thing. Or when he went all ninja on them. The best scene ever was the very end of the third. That was a cinematic masterpiece. But that doesn't mean they can't have serious moments as well. Like the scene in the first one when Bunny made it to the truck. There was no humor in that. It had impact. Not because it broke "the rules" but because it is a more realistic and human reaction. We like to tell ourselves we are heroes. That we can overcome our own self preservation instincts and save the day. That is why scenes like that have impact. Because it makes us question if we really can. And show us that others will have to make the same choice if you happen to find yourself in a bar under seige by monsters.

 

[Paulo Sergio]

Man, you're thick. Pheew!

Actually, he has some pretty valid points from the perspective of it being a videogame.

The whole body destruction aspect isn't going to have much of an effect on the gameplay and the trailer definitely doesn't show how the game will play which, to me, is pretty stupid for a new, unknown IP.

This trailer gives me absolutely no reason to be interested in the actual game.

I'm viewing this only from the teaser viewpoint. I couldn't care less if the game sucks as I had no previous interest in it whatsoever. And, really, you can't expect ANY game holding up to a teaser like this. It's just raised the bar too high.
Going back to what this thread is all about, "Dead island reveal trailer", there are hundreds of trailers out there and for me, this one is one helluva moment, CG or not.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

Wonderful trailer, it had a genius but simple way of presenting it, great (and again simple) music to it, and really made me think.

Art. And the trailer makes me want the game.

 

[bossdirge]

I don't know why buy north american culture just doens't deal with the death of children the same way as asian culture does. Kids don't have to be turned into zombies first to be kiled in asian movies, it's not a taboo there. i think north americans need to expand their horizons a little more and whack a few more of the untouchables.

 

[dancinginfernal]

Snip

That was very poorly done, honestly. I mean, it was ballsy, but it didn't exactly redeem how crappy it was.

The trailer for Dead Island was supposed to poke at emotions, hit soft spots in people to know that the game will involve heavy scenes like that. That emotional damage is another casualty in a zombie apocalypse.

The man and woman risk their very lives to save this child, who quickly turns and attacks the man. The very people who just tried to save her. The only reason it's impactful it because it is a small girl, a child, something many people with daughters can't bear to watch take injury.

Geoff from RoosterTeeth only managed to get 15 seconds in. Out of a two-and-a-half minute video.
And this guy fuckin' loves zombie games.

 

[squid5580]

Snip

That was very poorly done, honestly. I mean, it was ballsy, but it didn't exactly redeem how crappy it was.

The trailer for Dead Island was supposed to poke at emotions, hit soft spots in people to know that the game will involve heavy scenes like that. That emotional damage is another casualty in a zombie apocalypse.

The man and woman risk their very lives to save this child, who quickly turns and attacks the man. The very people who just tried to save her. The only reason it's impactful it because it is a small girl, a child, something many people with daughters can't bear to watch take injury.

Geoff from RoosterTeeth only managed to get 15 seconds in. Out of a two-and-a-half minute video.
And this guy fuckin' loves zombie games.

The very same logic applies to the Feast scene as it does to the Geoff video. He has a child so to him seeing a girl around the same age as his daughter he couldn't take it. Now think about someone who has a year old baby seeing that video. Do you not think the same will apply.

 

[Flig]

That trailer was bloody fantastic. I don't care if the game turns out to be shit, I am determined to buy it. Whoever directed it needs a medal. It's the only trailer that's actually stirred anything in me. And like it has already been said, it's not about the child, but the family. Those snapshots at the end actually almost made me cry. At the beginning I thought it was just gonna be a dead child gimmick, but then the rewinding started, and then shit went down. At first I thought the girl was just gleefully riding her father's back...and then I saw the blood. That was the first pang of emotion it got out of me. Then it goes to the horrified look on the mother's face as her child attacks her husband. Her horrified look at her child dead on the bed. The zombie ripping out/placing in an axe to his neck. The father defending his family. The daughter getting attacked in the hallway, making the family's attempts to save her futile. The father pressing back/getting charged by the zombies. The reversed sequence of the parents placing the child on the bed, making a rescue seem like an attempt at flight. And of course, ending on the child's hand slipping from her father's grasp. Fade to Title. Fade to short clips of a happy family on an island paradise. End on family together. Fade to black. Facebook page.

Amazing.