Dead island reveal trailer, piece of art or too far?

[ShadowsofHope]

No worse than Dead Space 2 necro-babies/children. *shrug*

 

[Mr36]

It was emotional?

I really didnt feel anything for it.

People, THEYER JUST PIXELS. They arnt real. They dont exist. If you feel emotional for something that never existed, you should probably see a shrink.

I mean, i watched Titanic, and i felt alittle sad. Sure everyone was just an actor, but its the fact it was based on real events that give emotion.

But people are feeling sad for fictional character, in a fictional world, full of fictional badies? Come on! Toughen up alittle.

So all those novelists out there are wasting their time? I'm a ***** if Apocalypse Now had me sitting around for days questioning the characters motives? There's no point discussing symbolism and getting real emotion because Kurtz and WIllard were just characters in a work of fiction?

The point of a work of fiction is to illicit emotion in the audience through the telling of a story. This is a facet of fiction that video games have left neglected by and large for too long, and I'm glad people are finally getting into it.

/GamesAreArt

 

[Wayneguard]

Still... in... shock... at how awesome... that game... is going to be.............

 

[Firetaffer]

Wait what's up with the THESE ARE JUST PIXELS argument? If we're talking visually, yes, games are pixels, and living creatures are merely reflected waves of light, but you OBVIOUSLY know that we AREN'T just reflected waves of light, there's more to us, and there's more to a game than just pixels.

 

[Nouw]

This is the part of Left 4 Dead you didn't see >.>

It hasn't gone too far, it may be a little girl but it's to add the part of the apocalypse people forget. The part like the one shown in Dead Island.

 

[Jack of Spades]

Wait what's up with the THESE ARE JUST PIXELS argument? If we're talking visually, yes, games are pixels, and living creatures are merely reflected waves of light, but you OBVIOUSLY know that we AREN'T just reflected waves of light, there's more to us, and there's more to a game than just pixels.

Indeed, the same thing could be said about all works of fiction: Romano & Juliet, Of Men of mice, and even *Shivers* the Twilight books. How comes video games get this whole "It just a game" BS from the other medias. If I call a Rainbow ?just reflective light" does it change the feeling people get from looking at one?

 

[the clockmaker]

I liked it, mostly because it gave me the impression that it will inject a little hopelessness into what is traditionally, outside of video games, a hopeless genre. If you watch that trailer, you want that little girl to be okay, you want to save her, you get the feeling that gamers would go the difficult long route, collecting every hidden item in the game if it would just make everything be okay.

But there is nothing that can be done, it is a shitty situation that has no upside. Watch the scene carefully again, there is not only no hope for the little girl, there is no hope for the parents, the father is bitten, the mother is surrounded by zombies and her only escape route is blocked.

Now this is just conjecture, but from this, I am hoping that the game will force upon the player a sense of helplessness and insignifigance. I don't want to try and defeat the outbreak, I don't want to discover its cause, I don't want to organise a mass exodous of survivours with a slow motion jump at the end.

What I want from this game is to try to keep my family alive, I want the situation to get worse and worse, I want the decisions that benifit me to be aweful and I want to suffer for doing the right thing, I want to have my hopes dashed at every corner while still keeping them alive enought hat I continue to try and at the end, I want to be trapped with no escape, I want to feel the sense of guilt as I die. I want this game to force me to fail, and to make me feel that failure.

If this game can do that. BAM game of the year.

 

[floppylobster]

I saw the new Dead Island trailer today and I personaly thought it was a well made, emotional trailer that shows the 'real horror' of a zombie attack.Most zombie films/games today lack the backbone to include children in them, however the setup in the trailer reminds me of the reality of a zombie attack were no one is safe, not even the children.As some will attack this trailer (fox..*cough*..news..*cough*) as a piece of filth to sell violence to children I think it is a thought provoking piece of art that remninds you that in a 'real zombie attack' your family would die and be turned into canabalistic monsters.Not the whole here's a shotgun go kill stuff! It works fine for dead rising (which by the way is f-ing awsome) takes the element of horror of zombies away some what.

so what are your opinions on the trailer?

Well I think Hitchcock's The Birds [1963], Night of the Living Dead [1968] and many others (including the more recent 28 Days Later) have done it better (and over 40 years ago). So it was certainly nothing new. The reverse idea only reminded me of The Scientist music video. There were a couple of nice touches but I wouldn't call it art by any stretch. It's an effective marketing campaign that has succeeded in getting the attention of the zombie game playing public. So a good trailer then.

 

[coolkirb]

Well its definitly not art, but its nothing that should cause a stir, I mean so zombies attacked a family and they played the footage in reverse

 

[Booze Zombie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpKBTTv1lgs&feature=related

Watch at your own risk. It is disturbing. Seriously disturbing. I am not kidding. If you can't handle the Dead Island trailer do not watch this.

I died laughing at how stupid that scene was. Ha!

Anyway, I felt that the Dead Island trailer tugged all of the right emotions and set the tone for the game. Looking forward to it.

 

[Quazimofo]

I liked it, it's nice to see a trailer that's not just a shitload of explosions and gunshots.

And the reverse time thing was gone rather well (although the zombies looked fast and in a melee focused zombie game that's probably not the best type of zombie to go for)

well if they weren't fast the family would've had a chance, thats part of what makes it scarier and more saddening. they cant outrun them, they cant kill them all, they cant hide. they are fucked, we know it they know it and there is nothing anyone can do but watch as a family dies in a desperate, hopeless, struggle.

in one word BRILLIANT!, in a sentence, brilliant but really, really, REALLY fucking disturbing, especially to someone who isnt a fan of horror and has seen/played no horror films/games.

 

[SyphonX]

Oh Christ. The "grow a pair" comments. Douchebaggery can reach such lows.

I didn't mind the video, but I wouldn't go around telling people to "man up" or other bullshit like that. It isn't considered tough to not react to stuff like this. FFS, that doesn't mean you're a stronger person. Hell, you're the one implying that you're somehow better than the rest of us because of a frickin' game trailer.

Maybe it's time you grow up.

It has nothing to do with "not affecting" people. It stirs up emotions for everyone. The people telling others to "grow a pair" are not sociopaths and do not think they are "stronger". They realize it isn't real, that it is mostly art, and they are not completely disturbed by it.

"Grow a pair" and "grow up" is aimed at people who claim it goes "too far", that it's just "too much for their tastes". Honestly, that's just ridiculous. Why don't you go ***** about real violence, because that's what matters.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

I really don't understand the uproar over all this. I mean, sure, it's sad and pretty grim and all that, but it's hardly the most disturbing thing I've ever seen.

 

[Marcosn]

Umm how come Feast 2 got away with so much worse? Such bullshit a movie can do so much worse but a video game that is tastefully done can't.

feast 2?

For your viewing pleasure

Is it wrong that i laughed throughout that whole clip from where he finds the baby? Also one of the highest ranked comments features the phrase "babality" and i nearly died laughing XD

Also i didnt see anything wrong with the video, it doesn't matter to me what age that person is that is dieing and i like how it shows how zombies don't know the difference betwen adult and child (other than snack size) BUT i can see how a parent would fid it upsetting like Geoff did (i genuinely felt sorry for geoff)

 

[SkyeNeko]

I don't get what all the fuss is about. I like how it was played backwards. Nice trailer. What little girl? Oh. So? There's worse thing that could have happened. Did you think zombies only happened to cities full of adults??? There was a baby that got eaten in Dead Rising. Is it less bad because they didn't show it?

 

[LHZA]

I am one of those people who prefer not to kill children in games. That being said I liked this trailer and don't think it goes too far.

 

[Choppaduel]

Wow, so many threads about this.

I found it beautiful but very upsetting. I didn't like seeing the little girl dying and in pain and it made me sad, which I suppose means it did exactly what it was trying to do.

I was also saddened, at first. I wasn't offended. It does really illustrate the tragedy and helplessness that would come with the situation. That being said....

[rant, read at your own peril]
I HATE THIS GAME.

Let me elaborate. I hate Goerge A. Romero style zombies, or true zombies, if you will. They confuse me. are they trying to eat people to stay undead? are they trying to increase there numbers by inflicting people with zombie-ness? do they have the intelligence? This kind of zombie is usually explained by "evil forces," which I don't buy.

Its like when you see one of those impossible shapes. My mind categories what I'm seeing as impossible and any immersion, and the feelings that come with it, are lost when I realize this.

I like these things to be at least remotely plausible, something like (but not exactly like) 28 days later infected. Virus is bloodborn and causes hallucinations, i guess, and diseases where the person bleeds and vomits blood. They attack others and scratch them and bleed on them. This is where it becomes implausible again, infected don't attack each other & they turn extremely quickly, too quickly. wait, maybe once the person is infected they give off a certain smell.... nevermind. Its not perfect but its better than the "evil forces" method.

[/rant]

Well theres going to be multiplayer, so maybe, unlike the trailer, it will be like l4d, less art & more challenging gameplay. In which case I might be interested. However, the trailer hasn't sold me on the game, but it is increasing awareness... well played marketers, you crafty bastards.

 

[Jack of Spades]

Umm how come Feast 2 got away with so much worse? Such bullshit a movie can do so much worse but a video game that is tastefully done can't.

feast 2?

For your viewing pleasure

Is it wrong that i laughed throughout that whole clip from where he finds the baby? Also one of the highest ranked comments features the phrase "babality" and i nearly died laughing XD

Also i didnt see anything wrong with the video, it doesn't matter to me what age that person is that is dieing and i like how it shows how zombies don't know the difference betwen adult and child (other than snack size) BUT i can see how a parent would fid it upsetting like Geoff did (i genuinely felt sorry for geoff)

I would have more respect for that scene, IF it wasn't so blatantly obvious they were just doing it for the shock factor. I know kids wouldn't be spared in apocalypse scenario, but they wouldn't be laughing either.