Dead island reveal trailer, piece of art or too far?
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ThisDirzzit said:
While I felt nothing toward the trailer other then it was nicely play out (I didn't get creep out from it) but from Geoff reaction I started to sympathy with him.
While I not a parent myself but I can easily see why he is offended by the trailer. Yes you can say "It's not real!" or "It's just a game!" but I guessing that some parent gamer will project their child as the game child which can make it more engaging for him/her to play (as long they know it not really their child in the game).
I think non parent people should understand from the parent gamer point of view (I have more respect for Geoff now as I see him that he truly cares and love for his daughter Millie).
The Dead Island trailer was good. Sure it depicted a few nasty things there but nothing we aint used to seeing in film these days. But ofcourse as escapists we need to have a big debate about how bad something is because its a little different to the same old crap that game developers keep feeding us.
It was a trailer that gets to the point.. Oooooh!! Deal with it.
It was a trailer that gets to the point.. Oooooh!! Deal with it.
Books are not intrinsically art, they are just words on paper. Nor are photographs, or film, or notes from an instrument or pieces of carved stone. Nor are pixels running around. No medium is intrinsically art and most of the time puts out trash.strangeotron said:
Is this trailer art? Well, who knows, but it tries rather successfully. It's not gaming as art as it is more a short film than anything else, just in CGI and as a promotion piece for a game. But can be games be art? Absolutely yes. Not possibly. No. Definately.
The games someone else posted to demonstrate use of serious stories are bad examples, I think. They are just on their mind because they are recent. I would go with Homeworld, Planescape:Torment, Grim Fandango (whose tone may fool people from seeing it's a story of eluding death within death and disillusion), Shadow of the Colossus, Gabriel Knight: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned, Heavy Rain, Amnesia
ark Descent, etc. as more adequate representatitves of pushing a serious story, dread, hopelessness, or touchy issues perfectly fine. What I would say is that the action/FPS genre is the one that has so far been unable to do it, not interactive media as whole.Should a specific game strive to be art? No, that misses the point. The artistic merit rises by itself when the work allows it. Not all games will even be or try to be art. But those that succeed should be comended and not belittled because they didn't stick to that uselss "games are just toys" mantra.
Ok, rant over. Move along, hehehehe. Just a little verbious today.
What point was that? The point at which it showed us absolutely anything about the game? Because I didn't see that...Wondermint13 said:
I admire that the movie actually did that without a worry of being "Politically Correct" (cos there's just certain people you can't kill in movies, right?!) but it looks like a terrible movie. No offence to anyone that likes it, but the characters are weird, the blood looks fake and the monsters are badly acted out.
Am I the only one finding it entertaining that it's perfectly ok to butcher scores of people of all races, genders and whatnot - but we're always supposed to feel special about it being a little girl ?
Meeeeeeh - let the girl fend for herself.
Oh yea, and I might actually buy it because of the trailer - last zombie game I played, I was pestered to hell about keeping a little girl alive *hint hint*
One can only hope the game itself will be as brutally honest about how such a thing might unfold - It would be every person for him or herself - hell, I'm not surprised if at least some people might be inclined to kick a child down the stairs and into a mob of zombies to buy themselves some more time.
Meeeeeeh - let the girl fend for herself.
Oh yea, and I might actually buy it because of the trailer - last zombie game I played, I was pestered to hell about keeping a little girl alive *hint hint*
One can only hope the game itself will be as brutally honest about how such a thing might unfold - It would be every person for him or herself - hell, I'm not surprised if at least some people might be inclined to kick a child down the stairs and into a mob of zombies to buy themselves some more time.
Watched the trailer (having not seen it until just now), and as the girl, uh, 'landed' on her Dad's back (in reverse, of course) I suddenly realised that this trailer was going to upset me. Aaaaaand it did. That said, it was fantastically made, and a very different approach to a zombie apocalypse than anything I've seen before.
Also, as an additional note, that Feast 2 video someone posted was horrendously ridiculous. Looking at the related videos, I'm astounded that it spawned a sequel.
Also, as an additional note, that Feast 2 video someone posted was horrendously ridiculous. Looking at the related videos, I'm astounded that it spawned a sequel.
Really? I can think of two different occurrences of 'parent killing zombiefied child' contained in The Walking Dead alone. It's hardly a unique premise.Cheesus333 said:
I don't know what The Walking Dead is, so... that might explain my viewpoint a little :LGiantRaven said:
Ah, fair enough. =DCheesus333 said:
The Walking Dead is a long running comic about survivors in the midst of a zombie apocalypse. It's very good, especially if zombies are your thing.
Is this printed or web? I love the latter, and follow a fair few myself, but I can't say I buy many printed comics. Or any at all. That said, this does sound like an intriguing series, I'd like to have a look at it.GiantRaven said:
To Google!
It gets to the point that, Zombies are bad, will eat men women and children and are f***ing scary. What else was we supposed to expect from the game? Killer fairies?GiantRaven said:
But what about the gameplay? This trailer is completely uninformative to me on the level that I actually care about.Wondermint13 said:
Don't take this as a knocking of the actual content though, it's awesome to watch but it fails as a videogame trailer as we know next to nothing about the actual game.
Game = Art.
Get over it Fox.
I saw it, I loved it. It's not like introducing children to say, GTA. IN that they'd be mown down and constantly respawned on a different street corner.
This clearly, repeatedly underlines the fact that this was someone's child, she was part of a family, and her death was violent and painful. Brilliant trailer, a work of art.
Get over it Fox.
I saw it, I loved it. It's not like introducing children to say, GTA. IN that they'd be mown down and constantly respawned on a different street corner.
This clearly, repeatedly underlines the fact that this was someone's child, she was part of a family, and her death was violent and painful. Brilliant trailer, a work of art.
which just means this is a much much scarier version of super meat boy. im sure that if they can run in the game there will be an option to make them pitifully weak to balance things out, or they will be encountered in smaller numbers.The Wykydtron said:
