Deadliest warrior: Alexander the Great vs. Attila the Hun WTF!?!?!?

[DarkRyter]

This was one of the most BS episodes I have seen on Deadliest warrior. Let's give Alexander a siege weapon in a 1v1 fight, while we give Attila a freakin warhammer! Post what you guys thought about this and indeed any other Deadliest Warrior episode you disagree on.

Just sit back, and don't think too deeply into it.

Enjoy the guys stabbing and shooting each other. Don't expect more from it. Also, don't bet money on it. (FUCKING NAZI SS AND THEIR STUPID FLAMETHROWER)

Besides, have you seen the computer program they use? The ultimate decider of fights are Excel spreadsheets.

 

[Irridium]

I find the show entertaining, but there's quite a bit I disagree with.
Mostly things people listed here.

Plus, I actually enjoy the corny fights.

 

[arbiter592]

This was one of the most BS episodes I have seen on Deadliest warrior. Let's give Alexander a siege weapon in a 1v1 fight, while we give Attila a freakin warhammer! Post what you guys thought about this and indeed any other Deadliest Warrior episode you disagree on.

What kind of siege weapon? One that can be set up and used by one guy and aimed at a single target ? thats madness. Although im still in favor of alexander the great, but not with a artillery. Lawl they should of given him a siege tower. xD

No, he got a ballista.

 

[Lord_Panzer]

For the people complaining "ZOMFG IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ONE ON ONE" - when they do the computing, they base it on *hundreds* of people fighting other hundreds. When they show you the one-on-one, that's because it'd be rather outside of their budget to hire an absurd amount of extras to fill out the remainder of Alexander's Army/Wallace's army/Shaka Zulu's army.

Uhh, no. The test is run 1000 times, but it's always one-on-one unless otherwise specified. For instance, the Mafia vs. Yakuza battle was squad based, with five-on-five computed to negate "lucky kills."

I enjoy the show, but purely from an entertainment standpoint. Many of the fights they simulate are completely out of character for certain fighters (example being a Centurion fighting alone), but it's still good for mindless fun.

 

[Irridium]

This was one of the most BS episodes I have seen on Deadliest warrior. Let's give Alexander a siege weapon in a 1v1 fight, while we give Attila a freakin warhammer! Post what you guys thought about this and indeed any other Deadliest Warrior episode you disagree on.

Just sit back, and don't think too deeply into it.

Enjoy the guys stabbing and shooting each other. Don't expect more from it. Also, don't bet money on it. (FUCKING NAZI SS AND THEIR STUPID FLAMETHROWER)

Besides, have you seen the computer program they use? The ultimate decider of fights are Excel spreadsheets.

Excel spreadsheets with GRAPHIX!

 

[maddawg IAJI]

*Snip*

Actually...ya. During the after show for that episode one of the Ninja advisers actually said that the Ninja, in reality, would have ran away and then would have came back at night and slit the Spartan's throat in his sleep

snip.

Yes, but Shaka Zulu's weaponry was far behind Wallace's. I would have been behind Richard the Lion Hearted vs William Wallace. It could have determine who was the better knight as far as things went.

And I have to agree about the computer thing. I want to see that program for myself after I watched them try to factor in friendly fire in the IRA vs Taliban episode.

 

[arbiter592]

This was one of the most BS episodes I have seen on Deadliest warrior. Let's give Alexander a siege weapon in a 1v1 fight, while we give Attila a freakin warhammer! Post what you guys thought about this and indeed any other Deadliest Warrior episode you disagree on.

Just sit back, and don't think too deeply into it.

Enjoy the guys stabbing and shooting each other. Don't expect more from it. Also, don't bet money on it. (FUCKING NAZI SS AND THEIR STUPID FLAMETHROWER)

Besides, have you seen the computer program they use? The ultimate decider of fights are Excel spreadsheets.

Haha, I made money by betting on the rajput because I guessed the idiots wouldnt test the roman shield. and nice avatar.

 

[WorkerMurphey]

I'm not sure how seriously you're supposed to take anything that airs on "Spike" the man network. If you want real science go for Discovery networks.

 

[Zeetchmen]

I stopped watching after the BS that was viking vs samurai

Read and be educated
http://clancop.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/deadliest-warrior-reviewed-more-nonsense-from-people-who-wouldnt-know-better/ Viking > Samurai

 

[Czargent Sane]

does no one see the problem with the fact that two noncombatants are going to be on this show???

 

[arbiter592]

The one that pissed me off the most: Waffen SS vs Vietcong
No MP-40/38? No Kar 98? No Luger? No STG-44? No Stick Grenade? No MG42?

The SS were the fucking elite of the German military, they would have been armed with the best guns, tanks and equipment that Germany had to offer. Instead they were given a WW1 era SMG, and a pre-WW1 era pistol, neither of which were widely used in the SS or the German military as a whole!

And the funny thing was that the guns still outperformed the VC's guns. lol

 

[arbiter592]

does no one see the problem with the fact that two noncombatants are going to be on this show???

Do you mean Sun Tzu and Vlad the Impaler? Yeah, I see the problem, I cant even think of the weapons theyre going to use.

 

[cryogeist]

i disagree with deadly worrior becuase for one how would we know who really won? i mean one guy could get lucky or the other

 

[Snarky Username]

I find a lot of the battles on there to be BS. It all depends on who's got the better weapons. And Al Capone vs Jesse James is just silly. Al Capone never fought anyone, he had gangsters for that. Why would he be a deadly warrior at all, let alone the deadliest?

Spoiler: Rant on the Deadliest Warrior, do not read if you're going to be offended

I watched it a few times, and to me it's nothing but two "experts" (and by experts I mean people who want to be on tv and spent an afternoon an Wikipedia to do so) engaging in a pissing contest over which warrior is better, leaving the viewers to watch the piss go for 50 minutes. Then an entertaining fight sequence comes up and they decide who wins.

It's the same problem that I have with most History Channel reality shows. I love the info that they throw out, but I hate the people. And on the Deadliest Warrior, most of it is false. They're all tools setting out with no better goal than to make their dicks feel bigger on tv. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Czargent Sane]

well arbiter, sun tzu will have a big bamboo scroll book thing, and vlad the impaler will have a pointy crown.

and actually, I think the samurai would most definitely defeat the vikings. especially in the situation that article gives at the beginning, seeing as the Japanese would outnumber them 5 to 1 in an invasion like that.

 

[Davrel]

Probably the one I disagreed with the most though was William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu. Yes, lets give the guy who lives in the iron age a Claymore and the man who lives in a Tribe in the middle of Africa some poisonous spit. I don't know, something about that fight just seemed unfair to me.

Look up the battle of Isandlwana - poisonous spit and sharpened sticks can go a long way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Probably the one I disagreed with the most though was William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu. Yes, lets give the guy who lives in the iron age a Claymore and the man who lives in a Tribe in the middle of Africa some poisonous spit. I don't know, something about that fight just seemed unfair to me.

In Shaka Zulu's defence, he completely changed the way battles happened between the tribes. It used to be mostly intimidating the opponent and throwing spears, he changed it to getting up close and personal with fast attacks. Also, Shaka Zulu and the Zulu empire was in Southern Africa, not the middle of Africa. Sorry, I just had to get that out there.
Also, that was an unfair fight. I agree with you.

I'm more then aware of his accomplishments in warfare between African tribes, but the thing about this show is that it doesn't factor in experience or size or strength or Speed or anything that was important before man made weapons.

As far as the system knew, William Wallace could have been a five year old with ADD, but he still won because his weapons did more damage then Shaka Zulu's. To butcher a quote by General Shepard in Modern Warfare 2 "It's not the size of the stick someone is carrying, it's the person behind that stick."

 

[Riven Armor]

The show is entertaining but as usual, I have to agree that it would be so much better if they did more accurate tests. As everyone else mentioned, there's the whole Ninja thing (They never fight head on, and should have been left out entirely), bringing siege weapons to a 1 on 1 fight (In the Aftermath, the reason was "because it was cool"...Seriously!?), having completely different tests, and a lot of times they don't test each weapon against each armour.

One of the most weirdest ones was grenade testing in Green Beret vs Spetsnaz. The tests were completely different and I have no idea how a proper conclusion can come from it. One grenade is in a laundry machine with targets outside in an area. The other grenade test is in an enclosed space with targets inside the room...

Generally I dislike the gun episodes but like the ancient warrior ones.

The Green Beret/Spetznaz one was probably no less inaccurate than the other episodes, which is saying it was pure crockery. The sim was even funnier. The Green Berets take out every Spetznaz except for one, who takes all of them (save one) out because Spetznaz can apparently teleport to awesome camping spots, then he wins because he has a spring loaded knife? What kind of self-respecting Green Beret would grab a TRENCH SHOVEL for close combat instead of a KBAR or some other tac knife?

 

[masher]

I always loved the idea behind the show, but, in every single episode, the representatives of each side are complete assholes! I'd tell them so face to face if it weren't for the fact that each of them are legally, certified, trained killers.

OT: A lot of the pairings give you a "WTF?!!" feel, then you look again and you see action.

With the Spartan vs Ninja episode, in the video, the Ninja was completely destroying the Spartan all the way up to the point where the Ninja jumped up, kicks off from a tree mid-air straight toward the stumbling Spartan, whereas the Spartan randomly turns around with his blade out and then the Ninja ended up jumping into the blade. It was complete luck and bull. I mean, even if their "statistics" showed the Spartan as being the victor, they could have illustrated it much better. Far too many of their battles end because of sheer luck.

 

[martin's a madman]

I think it was wierd how the big advantage of the kanabo (the ability to break your opponent's arm through a shield) was forgotten about so quickly

I saw in the episode guide they're pitting sun tzu against vlad the impaler. neither of them were warriors.

pirate vs knight. dont even get me started on that little fiasco.

I still think knight should have won because the pirates only had one good weapon against the knight, the blunderbuss, and even that misfired a lot. And how did broadsword and cutlass get a tie when the knight is wearing freaking armor!?

The armour is irrelevant to the testing of an attack weapon.
However, considering the broadsword more easily cut through the body of swine, it probably should have received the edge.

I like the fact that only one of the pirates weapons could damage the knight reliably, and this one shot weapon would only cause damage if the knight didn't manage to use his shield. opposed to the knight, whose weapons were each a one hit instant kill, except for the crossbow, which would deliver mortal wounds from beyond the pirates range with greater accuracy and reload time.

Yeah, I was disappointed they didn't test the blunderbuss with the Chainmail, platemail, AND the shield. I know the chain male was practically nothing against piercing weapons but every bit of protection would count.