Deadliest warrior: Alexander the Great vs. Attila the Hun WTF!?!?!?

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Riven Armor

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masher said:
I always loved the idea behind the show, but, in every single episode, the representatives of each side are complete assholes! I'd tell them so face to face if it weren't for the fact that each of them are legally, certified, trained killers.

OT: A lot of the pairings give you a "WTF?!!" feel, then you look again and you see action.

With the Spartan vs Ninja episode, in the video, the Ninja was completely destroying the Spartan all the way up to the point where the Ninja jumped up, kicks off from a tree mid-air straight toward the stumbling Spartan, whereas the Spartan randomly turns around with his blade out and then the Ninja ended up jumping into the blade. It was complete luck and bull. I mean, even if their "statistics" showed the Spartan as being the victor, they could have illustrated it much better. Far too many of their battles end because of sheer luck.
Yeah, totally agree about their choreography. But keep in mind the "experts" are most likely not really that good at killing people...
 

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Riven Armor said:
masher said:
I always loved the idea behind the show, but, in every single episode, the representatives of each side are complete assholes! I'd tell them so face to face if it weren't for the fact that each of them are legally, certified, trained killers.

OT: A lot of the pairings give you a "WTF?!!" feel, then you look again and you see action.

With the Spartan vs Ninja episode, in the video, the Ninja was completely destroying the Spartan all the way up to the point where the Ninja jumped up, kicks off from a tree mid-air straight toward the stumbling Spartan, whereas the Spartan randomly turns around with his blade out and then the Ninja ended up jumping into the blade. It was complete luck and bull. I mean, even if their "statistics" showed the Spartan as being the victor, they could have illustrated it much better. Far too many of their battles end because of sheer luck.
Yeah, totally agree about their choreography. But keep in mind the "experts" are most likely not really that good at killing people...
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yeah, but most of them seem insane enough to try.
 

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Davrel said:
maddawg IAJI said:
Probably the one I disagreed with the most though was William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu. Yes, lets give the guy who lives in the iron age a Claymore and the man who lives in a Tribe in the middle of Africa some poisonous spit. I don't know, something about that fight just seemed unfair to me.
Look up the battle of Isandlwana - poisonous spit and sharpened sticks can go a long way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana
There were a number of other decisive factors then just the weaponry. First off, The Zulu forces greatly outnumbered the British.

The British weren't prepared for the attack. They had a lack of munitions and they were too far spread out.

Finally, these are two large armies going against one another. Not a 1 on 1 fight. It was largely unfair for Shaka to win with most of his weapons when William Wallace was carrying a Claymore that was rather large (I can't remember the exact number, but I believe that it was somewhere around 8 feet to 12 feet). Way to big of a gap for Shaka Zulu to Spit poison or even get close with some of his weaponry.
 

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Czargent Sane said:
I think it was wierd how the big advantage of the kanabo (the ability to break your opponent's arm through a shield) was forgotten about so quickly

I saw in the episode guide they're pitting sun tzu against vlad the impaler. neither of them were warriors.

pirate vs knight. dont even get me started on that little fiasco.

Yeah, NO WAY the Pirate should've won that one. Made me FURIOUS!
 

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DarkDain said:
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This was one of the most BS episodes I have seen on Deadliest warrior. Let's give Alexander a siege weapon in a 1v1 fight, while we give Attila a freakin warhammer! Post what you guys thought about this and indeed any other Deadliest Warrior episode you disagree on.
What kind of siege weapon? One that can be set up and used by one guy and aimed at a single target ? thats madness. Although im still in favor of alexander the great, but not with a artillery. Lawl they should of given him a siege tower. xD
I think they gave him a Ballista... But they also gave them both like 10 men to fight with, although I think all of them die within like a minute into the fight
 

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carpathic said:
Czargent Sane said:
I think it was wierd how the big advantage of the kanabo (the ability to break your opponent's arm through a shield) was forgotten about so quickly

I saw in the episode guide they're pitting sun tzu against vlad the impaler. neither of them were warriors.

pirate vs knight. dont even get me started on that little fiasco.

Yeah, NO WAY the Pirate should've won that one. Made me FURIOUS!
Didnt the pirate win? I havent seen alot of the episodes, but a friend told me the pirate opened up the knight's faceplate and shot him..
EDIT: Sorry, I read that wrong.
 

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Zeetchmen said:
I stopped watching after the BS that was viking vs samurai

Read and be educated
http://clancop.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/deadliest-warrior-reviewed-more-nonsense-from-people-who-wouldnt-know-better/ Viking > Samurai
erm that guy said vikings ruled to the middle east and cited stamford bridge as an example of viking military prowess, yes maybe 1 viking did manage to kll 40 people but the rest of his army didnt do to well considering the army that they where facing defeated them then went on to fight in the battle of hastings very shortly afterwards. although i do agree with him about the over romantisised abilitys of the samurai
 

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I didn't like the Spetznaz vs Green Berets. The scout knife with a suprise giving the final kill makes sense though, but just...bleh... I enjoy the show though.

Also gotta remember, there's the computer limitations, what a person could carry on him, etc etc. The only thing that honestly would be better is if they actualy get two people trained in the ways of the actual fighters, and they fight to the death. But there'll never be actual human testing. :/
 

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NeutralDrow said:
68 posts and no one's posted Spoony's review? I'm disappointed.
Beat me to the draw. Was just thinking about as soon as I read the title.
 

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The fuck? Alexander The Great was known for being an excellent strategist not a face smashing warrior, why the hell would he win a fight against some barbarian who had practiced eating babies since he was a baby.
 
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I don't see what was so bad about that. Attila was quite clearly a badass, they said the majority of the kills came from excellent Mongol archery too...which is believable. Including siege weapons was more than likely just an excuse to use them.

It's a silly show, but it's fun. The results are almost never decisive. Out of 1000 simulations, the winner almost always wins marginally...slighlty more than half of the time. You can't draw any real conclusions from that, and nor should you.
 

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I didn't watch this show but didn't the Mongols have siege engines and such too, they couldn't have conquered a huge portion of Europe and Asia without them I bet. The only one I agree with is the spartan vs ninja and maybe the Mobsters just because the firepower the American Weapons they used.
 

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Czargent Sane said:
I think it was wierd how the big advantage of the kanabo (the ability to break your opponent's arm through a shield) was forgotten about so quickly

I saw in the episode guide they're pitting sun tzu against vlad the impaler. neither of them were warriors.

pirate vs knight. dont even get me started on that little fiasco.
Going off of my limited historical knowledge I am fairly certain that Vlad was a warlord and prince so he likely had rudimentary combat training at the very least although I still don't think it is a very good idea.

I can enjoy the show for entertainment and a look at the use of ancient weapons, but I wouldn't take anything from it as fact.
 
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NeutralDrow said:
68 posts and no one's posted Spoony's review? I'm disappointed.
Why would they think that anyone would want to listen to them being uninteresting for 50 minutes? I'm not saying the show is anything more than enjoyable fluff. But I don't believe for a second that they show you every little bit of testing they do, or that those 3 guys make all the decisions on their own. My guess would be that they are little more than presenters picked on the assumption that they would make the thing more watchable...I would be surprised if they were genuinely masterminding the thing.

...things are rarely as they seem on television.
 

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austin9993 said:
DarkDain said:
arbiter592 said:
This was one of the most BS episodes I have seen on Deadliest warrior. Let's give Alexander a siege weapon in a 1v1 fight, while we give Attila a freakin warhammer! Post what you guys thought about this and indeed any other Deadliest Warrior episode you disagree on.
What kind of siege weapon? One that can be set up and used by one guy and aimed at a single target ? thats madness. Although im still in favor of alexander the great, but not with a artillery. Lawl they should of given him a siege tower. xD
I think they gave him a Ballista... But they also gave them both like 10 men to fight with, although I think all of them die within like a minute into the fight
Ok but still a ballista isnt something you just point and shoot, it was really accurate but its not like they had crosshairs for them, they'd have to shoot it once just to figure out where it hits, then leave it like that until someone walks into that spot, thats how they were used ._.
 

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martin said:
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I disagreed with Viking vs Samurai but then I'm extremely biased.
Viking for the win.
It's just their opinions, so really as long as you think the Viking could win, you're equally as qualified.
Depends on who it is fighting as a person, and now what they are. Any fight could go either way regardless of their faction and styles.

Makes good entertainment. I suppose.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
Most of those match-ups are a little messed up.

Spartans and Samurais would never be fighting alone.

How does a computer calculate bombs that needs to be planted BEFORE the battle and the odds of an enemy walking over said bomb?

Ninjas would never be fighting face to face.

Probably the one I disagreed with the most though was William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu. Yes, lets give the guy who lives in the iron age a Claymore and the man who lives in a Tribe in the middle of Africa some poisonous spit. I don't know, something about that fight just seemed unfair to me.

Edit: I'm also not looking forward to next weeks episode which is Al Capone Vs Jessy James. Yes, let's take a fat man and put him up against an expert marksman.
Err, William Wallace lived in the Dark Age, not the Iron Age. Iron Age was before even the Roman Empire, and W.W. was after.

Jessy James is a famous train robber, not so much an expert marksman.
And the fat man has something the robber doesn't; automatic weaponry.

Though in fairness, the show is all ridiculous and should never be taken seriously under and circumstances.
 

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I never had a problem with deadliest warrior. The first episode I saw was Ninja vs Spartan, and I loved it! I loved seeing both their weapons in action...