That sounds awesome!lukemdizzle said:
I'd love to try a Mac just cause it looks different, and I like seeing new content.
My PC gets the job done though.
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I'd love to try a Mac just cause it looks different, and I like seeing new content.
My PC gets the job done though.
You realise that they have a Terminal right?D4zZ said:
I swap between Debian, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, CentOS and OS X with relative ease. I have an XP rig for gaming on (soon to be a win 7 box). So, why do I use OS X?
Firstly, I qualified as a Windows admin, I am Exchange 2007 certified and extensively versed in every server tech from 2000 to now. I would be an MCSE but I couldn't afford it when the opportunity arose - I do score 98% or higher on all the practice exams. I've been using Windows for the past ohhh 10 years I suppose.
Secondly, I started as a Windows admin. I learned to get around all the niggly issues and fix problems. I managed to make machines get more than a weeks uptime (299 days is the best I've got out of a server so far) and I could put together a mixed environment with enough time.
But (isn't there always a But), a couple of years ago I had a server-side epiphany. Using OS X just works. There were niggling issues (podcast server is a PITA, I would have liked more group features for the mail system) that I had to get around, but a single course was enough for that. This single course I did in 3 days, and learned as much about OS X as I had about Windows in the full year it took me to qualify.
No more issues with integration, no more stupid reboots or dumb lock ups. The only issue I had on any consistent scale was kerberos based (stupid time daemon on the router kept going down without us knowing it - so it wasn't the mac's fault). The machines are faster, stabler, and prettier.
And most importantly, after only two weeks of grumping around, all my users were loving the share mac's I had around the place, and they wanted their own. Sure, the beancounters kept XP, they had their software (and apparently a beancounter lacks the mental capacity to learn something new) and they were happy - so now I work in an all Mac shop, I've gotten more certificates in the past 2 months than in the past 2 years and I am stoked.
Anyone who tells me that a Mac feels wrong gets a solid "yeah right dickhead" from me. I started on the other side of the fence, I was happy there, I hated Mac's with a passion and only started using them because I was forced to.
And I haven't looked back.
I understand that, but I've never had a person who owns a Mac not give me a 20 page dissertation on why I'm incorrect in assuming that a PC is a good choice at all. Even my uncles give me these lovely speeches at family parties and it's honestly not something I care to hear because it's all[\i] wrong.Lexodus said:
pretty much this at first it was PC for both but when I discovered how good mac was for video editing and such I was converted for that but since it isFurburt said:
Irony++.Snotnarok said:
The right tool for the right job. The Mac is not for everyone (and frankly I want to keep it out of everyone's hands - being the elitist bastard that I am), nor should it be pushed on everyone.
You make sure you tell your uncles that a qualified technician (Apple Certified Technical Coordinator) told them they're flaming morons for trying to push their shit, and should be thrown off a cliff.
I'm using and have always used a PC, but if I was going to get a laptop, I'd get a Mac.
They just look so pretty.
They just look so pretty.
To me all the macs look the same, they just repeat the same matte white, which IMO is boring.
I have used Macs by the way and while I may at times seem biased towards Apple (I try not to be) I am just tired of all their biased advertising, which is generally riddled with lies...
I am not all for Microsoft either as they can be stupid about things too, but at least they don't lie.
As for the computer itself, all I see is a PC with a slightly different operating system (which restricts the use of games) that costs more... that all look the same... I just don't get how they can say it is the "fun" computer when there are no games for the thing. On the topic of viruses, I have never had one, although anyone who has anti-virus and has had a virus has done some seriously irresponsible downloading and probably has never done a scan.
This is going to be a very hard to read piece of text I know but bear with me, Macs may be useful to those who do video and music editing but aside from that they don't do anything that much better.
All in all if you're willing to pay the extra cash for no games go ahead but IMO it just isn't worth it.
I have used Macs by the way and while I may at times seem biased towards Apple (I try not to be) I am just tired of all their biased advertising, which is generally riddled with lies...
I am not all for Microsoft either as they can be stupid about things too, but at least they don't lie.
As for the computer itself, all I see is a PC with a slightly different operating system (which restricts the use of games) that costs more... that all look the same... I just don't get how they can say it is the "fun" computer when there are no games for the thing. On the topic of viruses, I have never had one, although anyone who has anti-virus and has had a virus has done some seriously irresponsible downloading and probably has never done a scan.
This is going to be a very hard to read piece of text I know but bear with me, Macs may be useful to those who do video and music editing but aside from that they don't do anything that much better.
All in all if you're willing to pay the extra cash for no games go ahead but IMO it just isn't worth it.
I am a console gamer so video games on the computer aren't really my motivation for buying said computer.
Seriously the only video games I play on a Computer are WoW and upcoming Diablo 3 (both Mac compatible)
OT: I like Mac's because they are good for making music, writing, producing, watching videos, and (with Microsoft Office for mac) doing work.
EDIT: I don't trust a full Mac or PC household though, the best would be a PC desktop and a Mac laptop.
Seriously the only video games I play on a Computer are WoW and upcoming Diablo 3 (both Mac compatible)
OT: I like Mac's because they are good for making music, writing, producing, watching videos, and (with Microsoft Office for mac) doing work.
EDIT: I don't trust a full Mac or PC household though, the best would be a PC desktop and a Mac laptop.
I use a Mac ,because I've had tons of trouble with my old windows PC.it was crashing every half hour(literary) and playing games on is was virtually impossible. I use Mac OS X leopard for work(photshop, open office,iMovie,etc.) and windows 7 as a second system for playing games.
Gitsnik said:
I could be the cool guy and say that I did it on purpose and that I'm just totally fucking awesome, but you know how it goes, the one time you don't read your post before tossing it up haha.
I'm not saying that Macs are bad, I'm saying "Whatever you want to use, go right ahead and use" has always been my thing, but no offense to any Mac users, this is just my experience with people who use Macs, and perhaps love their Macs perhaps too much.
I'm ALWAYS attacked by Mac users. They ALWAYS have to point out their facts and why their superior but frankly they're misinformed and PC and Mac have big similarities and their only BIG difference is software libraries (and the ability to repair/modify your own system) and news flash, Photoshop is on both PC and Mac so the argument is irreverent
In my opinion, anyone who uses a mac for anything other than design work or multimedia creation has wasted their money and probably bought it so they could act all smug and brag to their friends that "I use a mac."
These people need to be beaten severely with a mini USB cable, then forced to justify in detail why they HAD to buy a mac, other than the fact that they're a douche with a huge ego.
Its kind of like when you see some jerk off riding a $4,000 carbon fibre, full suspension downhill racing bike on the fucking sidewalk. I mean sure if you can afford it that's great, but WHY?!? Other than to show off how much money they spent, and really, when are they EVER going to use it for its intended purpose?!? The $1200.00 downhill body armor and helmet just add to the whole doucheitude, kind of like people buying a new desk because "It matches my mac"
What can a mac do that a PC can't? Not very much, its just a more stable system.
Why the hell would anyone spend 3+ grand for a mac when all they're going to use it for is surfing the net, checking eMails and playing games? You can buy a PC and upgrade the living shit out of it for half that price! (That's right, because they're a douche and need to show off)
I use a mac for work, and a PC for play. The difference being that macs were designed to be powerful, dedicated graphics machines with little or no worries about viruses, etc. and despite what they advertise, they're really meant for professionals. Also, Adobe products run better on macs, because that's the platform they were originally intended for.
I use mac OS-X and have no intention of partitioning and installing windows. In fact as soon as I can I'm switching to google's OS because I sincerely HATE Microsoft products. I use Windows XP on my PC and it STILL is constantly downloading security updates, etc.
What a joke.
So to summarize, Mac users: Either professional designers or douchebags with more money than common sense, or someone who just plain likes macs for their superior graphics in watching movies and stuff, or had one bought for them and doesn't brag about it. (I know you're out there)
PC users: Pretty much everybody else.
These people need to be beaten severely with a mini USB cable, then forced to justify in detail why they HAD to buy a mac, other than the fact that they're a douche with a huge ego.
Its kind of like when you see some jerk off riding a $4,000 carbon fibre, full suspension downhill racing bike on the fucking sidewalk. I mean sure if you can afford it that's great, but WHY?!? Other than to show off how much money they spent, and really, when are they EVER going to use it for its intended purpose?!? The $1200.00 downhill body armor and helmet just add to the whole doucheitude, kind of like people buying a new desk because "It matches my mac"
What can a mac do that a PC can't? Not very much, its just a more stable system.
Why the hell would anyone spend 3+ grand for a mac when all they're going to use it for is surfing the net, checking eMails and playing games? You can buy a PC and upgrade the living shit out of it for half that price! (That's right, because they're a douche and need to show off)
I use a mac for work, and a PC for play. The difference being that macs were designed to be powerful, dedicated graphics machines with little or no worries about viruses, etc. and despite what they advertise, they're really meant for professionals. Also, Adobe products run better on macs, because that's the platform they were originally intended for.
I use mac OS-X and have no intention of partitioning and installing windows. In fact as soon as I can I'm switching to google's OS because I sincerely HATE Microsoft products. I use Windows XP on my PC and it STILL is constantly downloading security updates, etc.
What a joke.
So to summarize, Mac users: Either professional designers or douchebags with more money than common sense, or someone who just plain likes macs for their superior graphics in watching movies and stuff, or had one bought for them and doesn't brag about it. (I know you're out there)
PC users: Pretty much everybody else.
Finally someone else with a bit of sense. If I tried saying that to any of my Mac owning mates I'd get a twenty minute lecture of each of them...SEPERATELY about how the Mac is so much faster, easier, better in general etc. etc. blahblahfuckingblah.zehydra said:
Elitest wankers, pardon my Francaís