Death metal performers and fans

[bobmus]

What's that? Stereotypes don't accurately reflect an entire genre and its fans? Stop the presses people, we have a breakthrough!

I've got a pretty diverse taste in music, and as such I've been to a lot of concerts of differing stylesTaylor Swift, Flo Rida, deadmau5, Muse, White Lies, My Chemical Romance, Lostprophets, U2, Oasis - to give you an idea.. With the exception of classical music, they're all the fucking same. Some people are cool, some people are annoying, and everyone jumps about for the faster tracks. Go to the one you enjoy the music of, or who have a good live act. You'll have a good time.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I must rant about Classical Music:
Classical music does nothing for me live. Zero audience involvement, everyone's sitting and they always insist on playing the hits of some obscure Austrian composer. This is like you going to see a rock band, and them saying 'Tonight, we play all the hits of obscure Austrian band AfterGirl!'. No other genre does this shit, play the good songs, not the shite ones no-one knows.

 

[TTMichael18]

You know really I'm surprised no one has mentioned the current situation with Randy Blythe, lead singer of Lamb of God.

Maybe 'cause Lamb of God aren't Death Metal and have no business in a Death Metal thread?

"Oh, hey, a Death Metal thread! surprised nobody has talked about Oli Sykes pissing on a fan!"

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

You know really I'm surprised no one has mentioned the current situation with Randy Blythe, lead singer of Lamb of God.

Maybe 'cause Lamb of God aren't Death Metal and have no business in a Death Metal thread?

"Oh, hey, a Death Metal thread! surprised nobody has talked about Oli Sykes pissing on a fan!"

Hmmm. So what are your requirements for Death Metal then? This is exactly why I hate sub-genre classifications. Everyone's definition is different.
If its lyrical content, Lamb of God fits. If its just the scream-singing, Lamb of God fits. If its guitar style, they still fit.
Also, if you're going to be extremely nitpicky, Children of Bodom shouldn't be considered Death Metal. Any band that covers CCR, Billy Idol and Britney Spears is definitely NOT death metal.

 

[TTMichael18]

Children of Bodom shouldn't be considered Death Metal. Any band that covers CCR, Billy Idol and Britney Spears is definitely NOT death metal.

Children of Bodom are a Melodic Death Metal band, and not a very good one.

 

[EpicMrAnderson]

I do see where that guy is coming from, I mean I've seen Cannibal Corpse and while I can understand them people who like them, personally I don't. I was also at the front for this gig and I have never had to push back from the barrier as much as I did then!
However though, its like any type of music, the band may be awesome, but some of the members could be dicks or not. I mean, I've met Zebrahead like 4 times and they are awesome, but I imagine some people, for example, Oli Sykes (or whatever its name is) would be a dick!
I go in mosh pits too and am grateful people pick you up if you fall down! because I would have been trampled on a few times! Pendulum's and Chase and Status's pits are mental!

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

You know really I'm surprised no one has mentioned the current situation with Randy Blythe, lead singer of Lamb of God.

Maybe 'cause Lamb of God aren't Death Metal and have no business in a Death Metal thread?

"Oh, hey, a Death Metal thread! surprised nobody has talked about Oli Sykes pissing on a fan!"

Hmmm. So what are your requirements for Death Metal then? This is exactly why I hate sub-genre classifications. Everyone's definition is different.
If its lyrical content, Lamb of God fits. If its just the scream-singing, Lamb of God fits. If its guitar style, they still fit.
Also, if you're going to be extremely nitpicky, Children of Bodom shouldn't be considered Death Metal. Any band that covers CCR, Billy Idol and Britney Spears is definitely NOT death metal.

You're an idiot, I don't even know why I would have to explain this. Death Metal, Thrash Metal, Heavy Metal, Groove Metal, Post-Metal, Melodic Death Metal, Sludge Metal, Doom Metal, Drone Metal, Progressive Metal, Metalcore, etc. They're all completely different.

Death Metal isn't about lyrical content, but then again I haven't heard Lamb of God sing "Decapitated head licking your ****, sucking all the blood from your stump. Intestinal guts taking their hold, leaving you dead, stiff and cold"


Seriously, what the Hell? Death Metal is usually recognisable by tremolo picking, blast beats and growls, unconventional time signatures and (a lot of the time) technicality.

Here's some Brutal Death Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72BkII5Z9Cg

Here's Lamb of God, not even close to Death Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqdZpxkzNvc

Lamb of God are generally considered Groove Metal. In a similar vain to Pantera.

And yes, genres are important.

Really I just love watching genre classists squirm. Just like I love messing with grammar nazi's. And moreover I originally brought up Randy's situation BECAUSE of the stereotyping of fans and music not so much because they're "death metal" or not. This sub-classification crap just divides fans of music with ridiculous arguments over what constitutes type-A metal and type-B metal. Metal is metal, and subtle distinctions are so petty to argue over.

 

[Fappy]

This sub-classification crap just divides fans of music with ridiculous arguments over what constitutes type-A metal and type-B metal. Metal is metal, and subtle distinctions are so petty to argue over.

no, the only people who start arguments over it are dickheads like you who say they don't matter. Of course they matter. Say I really want some Death Metal to listen to and I want to find more bands that play that style. Then when I ask and someone says, "Nah, it's all just Metal"

That doesn't help. I could search 'Metal' and it could come up with a Sludge Metal band. But I don't want to hear Sludge Metal. It's completely different to Death Metal. I want to hear Death Metal. But no, in your perfect world, there aren't sub-genres, there isn't originality, there isn't creativity and there isn't diversity in anything because you were too lazy to learn the difference between Death Metal and Groove Metal.


****.

Might want to read the forum rules there bud.

 

[minispike47]

I can't take them seriously.
"Death Metal". "Cannibal Corpse". "Children of Bodom" (I mean, really? Naming yourself after a murder? CHILDREN OF SOME GUY WHO MURDERED A COUPLE OF TEENAGERS!). "Dethlok". It's a fucking joke.

If you don't get it then you don't get it. As such, you shouldn't really be commenting on the topic and critizing the name of certain bands. I'm a massive Children of Bodom fan and they were named after the lake in Finland, hence the song Lake Bodom. You should really check your facts...

 

[General Twinkletoes]

Might want to read the forum rules there bud.

I'll swear all I like at this dickbag.

You won't be staying here for too long if you do.
Calm down man, it's just music. The most personal and subjective thing that exists, don't get pissed because he's not in the know about every single sub genre of metal.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Might want to read the forum rules there bud.

I'll swear all I like at this dickbag.

Swear all you want, just don't insult others.

Stay classy.

 

[MisterGobbles]

really?

I dont know..I used to like some metal but I'm really not into the genre

I'm not saying that if you don't like metal, you're stupid, but a lot of the people who are into metal, in my experience, are very smart people. Quite a few exceptions, especially with all the elitists floating around, but a lot of them are. And very social, too.

Hmmm. So what are your requirements for Death Metal then? This is exactly why I hate sub-genre classifications. Everyone's definition is different.
If its lyrical content, Lamb of God fits. If its just the scream-singing, Lamb of God fits. If its guitar style, they still fit.
Also, if you're going to be extremely nitpicky, Children of Bodom shouldn't be considered Death Metal. Any band that covers CCR, Billy Idol and Britney Spears is definitely NOT death metal.

This thread is really about metal in general. The situation with Randy Blythe is extremely relevant. I don't think it reflects very well on the metal community, regardless of the stupidness of the charge. And yes, Children of Bodom are melodic death metal, with their earlier stuff being more black metal and their newer stuff showing more thrash influence.

Children of Bodom shouldn't be considered Death Metal. Any band that covers CCR, Billy Idol and Britney Spears is definitely NOT death metal.

Children of Bodom are a Melodic Death Metal band, and not a very good one.

Look, man, I think subgenres are a beautiful thing; they each encompass a very unique and different sound, and it's fun to figure out how each band twists them to make their own sound. But in this thread, it has little relevance (and neither does the quality of the music).

 

[Dangit2019]

I can't take them seriously.
"Death Metal". "Cannibal Corpse". "Children of Bodom" (I mean, really? Naming yourself after a murder? CHILDREN OF SOME GUY WHO MURDERED A COUPLE OF TEENAGERS!). "Dethlok". It's a fucking joke.

Well, with Dethklok, it actually is a joke so...

By the way, people don't take metal names seriously. I mean, consider the name "Metallica". Now what the HELL does that even mean? Nothing. It just sounds cool.

Just in case you do still care there's also bands called the Black Daliah Murder and Whitechapel, so yeah.

 

[Dangit2019]

Might want to read the forum rules there bud.

I'll swear all I like at this dickbag.

Oh aren't you just such a rebel. This ain't /b/, you know, the mods have Banhammers and they aren't afraid to use them.

 

[Satocreed]

As a fan of all things metal (I like most genres of metal, and even some hardcore stuff) I can agree that is just a communication issue. Then again I have my little sister liking cannibal corpse at 9 years old. Admittedly I do tend to fear for my life at hardcore shows, not so much the death metal ones.

 

[TTMichael18]

I'm not being a rebel, I just hate ignorance. I don't give a flying fuck about whether I get ban-hammered.

 

[repeating integers]

I'm not being a rebel, I just hate ignorance. I don't give a flying fuck about whether I get ban-hammered.

Sorry to interrupt your rage, but is that a Sunn O))) avatar?

 

[Guffe]

Just because the music is "violent" and harder than most other genres it doesn't mean everything in it is violent. I am MetalHead myself but only classic metal (going to folk- and powermetal also) mainly and don't listen to Death too much. But I think the same rules apply here, The crowd and unity this type of music brings is insane!
It's like Dio said a long time ago, to the type of riffs and drumming this music does you can't sing about love and angels all the time but you have to put the lyrics so they match the instrumentals. Just because we sing about the Devil and rough times doesn't mean we are satanists, if you look under the text the meaning can be a lot different than what you just read or hear.

 

[Daveman]

I have noticed a lot of people have a big misconception when it comes to how they think about death metal fans and performers themselves. They think they are horrible antisocial, violent members of society. I told a friend I was going to see Cannibal Corpse and jokingly asked him if he wanted to come (as he has different music tastes). His response was something along the lines of "no, I don't want to die."

I kind of compare this to say Stephen King. Stephen King's books feature evil and violent things, but most people wouldn't think anything of Stephen King being like the characters and stories he portrays.

I have noticed in fact that death metal fans are extremely friendly humble people. Going to a death metal concert there is a great sense of comradely. Some of the nicest people I have met in my life are fans of vulgar and violent bands like this.

What are your thoughts?

As lovely as we all are, it's hard to defend the fact that there aree often mosh pits which to any sane person is an indication of violent behaviour... no matter how much fun they may be.

 

[Nouw]

I found something very interesting about the band Slayer. Though not death metal per say I guess it fits into thrash metal, but that is beside the point.

The band is very anti-religion and anti-Christianity. Hell, one of their albums is "God Hates Us All". The thing is the lead singer Tom Araya is actually catholic. Though it might seem hypocritical he puts his own beliefs aside for his band. The lyrics really don't reflect how he really is as a person and his beliefs.

I suppose that's the same for Megadeth, with songs like Holy Wars, but goddamn is it confusing. Is Dave making a critique of Christianity? Is he mocking people that make a critique of Christianity? Why do they do this? It just feels really strange for someone so into Christianity writing songs against it.