Death metal performers and fans

[FallenTraveler]

This is oddly synced up with my life fairly well. I just went to the Mayhem Festival, which if you aren't aware featured the following in order of headlining. Slipknot, Slayer, Motorhead, As I lay Dying, Anthrax, The Devil Wears Prada, Asking Alexandria, Whitechapel and a couple others I don't care to mention.

So, who were the annoying pricks you might wonder? Who were the ones who fit into their stereotype, the Slipknot and Slayer fans. Although it was kind of odd when The Devil Wears Prada (A christian band) got to have the largest mosh pit on the second stage.

Direct Response to the OT, If metal fans weren't doing the things they are known for doing, and if they weren't acting like fucking idiots maybe I wouldn't think of them that way. I know most fans of these bands aren't morons, but that damned vocal minority is extra loud and extra annoying.

 

[Vicarious Reality]

Sometimes i worry about the kind of people who enjoys bands who seriously and consistently write nothing but murder death kill for their lyrics, i mean, it is kind of funny, for like 10 minutes, maybe they just can not think of anything else, and then i can probably sympathise
A continuation of shock-rock

Somethin stereotypical

Spoiler: Ingested

Lyrics:
Murderer, psychotic, is this what I've become?
Men women, or children, it makes no difference.
Rape, their soft dead bodies, I fuck when they can't stop me.
I just don't know what is real, what is real what is fake.
Confusing, killing spree.
I'll tear the flesh right from their bones.
Illusion, of their deaths.
My mind shrouded in darkness.
Am I hallucinating, or is my brain just sick?
Cos when I fuck these corpses, I can feel them on my dick.
From behind the veil of flesh, I can't distinguish, what is real.
I fell alone and forgotten, contorted, perception.
Piercing, her hymen, **** filled with broken glass.
I'll drag her kicking screaming, from her innocence.
Beaten broken torn, just one dead whore.
Is this a dream, or is this just my life?
Death, is the sickening reality, flesh is just the mask it hides behind.
Narcissistic, nihilistic, my mask of sanity has gone, welcome to my world.
Confusing, killing spree, illusion, of my death.
Am I hallucinating, or is my brain just sick?
Did I just kill these people, am I the one that's dead?
Rotten flesh, deep inside my skull.
Murderer, dwells, within me.


Maybe i am just confused or bored and taking things too seriously in my old age
And that is some relatively tame stuff, only thing i could remember at the moment

I have never been to a metal concert or been friends with anyone who is obviously (death)metal, sooooo, i guess i am just useless in this argument

Spoiler: Toten Metall

Captcha: hulk smash

lmao

 

[General Ken8]

I was at a small concert (it was a skateboarding event with a concert at the end). The band "Set Your Goals" was playing

I love Set Your Goals! Anyways, I agree, I've seen many worse crowds than death metal ones. I went to a Kid Rock concert last year, that's my example. The mix of backgrounds there gets REALLY ugly

 

[xplosive59]

I do not really care for modern Death Metal as there seems to be rarely anything good coming out othe genre nowadays (apart from maybe Obscura, and a few smaller bands such as Decrescent). The genre is stale, which I hate to say because I do love alot of 1st wave and 2nd wave Death Metal bands such as Possessed, Death, Cynic, Athiest, Morbid Angel and Bolt Thrower. Black Metal (as you can see from by Burzum avatar unless it has changed since then) as it is probably the most diverse genre of extreme metal when you get deep enough into it, it also seems to be one of the few metal genre's left that is still putting out amazing albums by artists such as Ancalagon, Gris, Negura Bunget, Belenos, Nokturnal Mortum, Coldworld, Drudkh, Celestia, Darkspace, Evilfeast and Turis Fratyr etc. I find Black Metal relaxing and once you get past the "mainstream" black metal bands such as Mayhem and Burzum (although I do fucking love every Burzum album up to Filosofem) stereotype of church burning, goat sacrificing sociopaths the majority of the genre is about nature, pagan and viking lore, as well as patriotism (although some take this to an extreme such as Graveland, Nokturnal Mortum and other Pagan/NSBM bands).

Awesome modern Black Metal... (most of these songs, like most Black metal, are longer than 10 minutes so just listen to the first 2 minutes or so if you are going to listen )

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Also Grindcore has been given a bad name in recent years due to a large ammount people believing that anything with -core in the genre must be for emo/scene kids. Grindcore (as well as early hardcore) is the exception and is a genre that I prefer to listen to over Death Metal if I am listening to something for sheer heaviness. The most intense gigs I have been to have been grindcore gigs, moshing everywhere you look but they are nice guys for the most part and pure adrenaline.

Excellent Grindcore...

Spoiler

And the shit that this genre get compared to because of the -core in the title...

 

[MisterGobbles]

I encountered the opposite. Most metal fans I know are dense, elitist retards who bully everyone to hell if he even says anything positive about a music genre besides metal. And don't get me started on their pseudointellectual leftwing BS that just lets me want to stand up and leave the room to cry under my shower for 4h about the sheer stupidity I just heard.

The few intelligent people I know who listen to metal also listen to about any kind of music.

Well yeah, you have to be diverse. You can't only listen to metal. That's just dumb. I'm big into all sorts of electronic stuff and starting to get more into jazz, and I listen to metal that's influenced by a lot of that. A lot of metal is dumb, but if you err on the smarter side of it it's breathtaking.

does Disturbed count as metal?

Sorta. They're more rock with a heavy amount of metal influences in my book.

I do not really care for modern Death Metal as there seems to be rarely anything good coming out othe genre nowadays (apart from maybe Obscura, and a few smaller bands such as Decrescent). The genre is stale, which I hate to say because I do love alot of 1st wave and 2nd wave Death Metal bands such as Possessed, Death, Cynic, Athiest, Morbid Angel and Bolt Thrower. Black Metal (as you can see from by Burzum avatar unless it has changed since then) as it is probably the most diverse genre of extreme metal when you get deep enough into it, it also seems to be one of the few metal genre's left that is still putting out amazing albums by artists such as Ancalagon, Gris, Negura Bunget, Belenos, Nokturnal Mortum, Coldworld, Drudkh, Celestia, Darkspace, Evilfeast and Turis Fratyr etc. I find Black Metal relaxing and once you get past the "mainstream" black metal bands such as Mayhem and Burzum (although I do fucking love every Burzum album up to Filosofem) stereotype of church burning, goat sacrificing sociopaths the majority of the genre is about nature, pagan and viking lore, as well as patriotism (although some take this to an extreme such as Graveland, Nokturnal Mortum and other Pagan/NSBM bands).

Awesome modern Black Metal... (most of these songs, like most Black metal, are longer than 10 minutes so just listen to the first 2 minutes or so if you are going to listen )

Spoiler

Also Grindcore has been given a bad name in recent years due to a large ammount people believing that anything with -core in the genre must be for emo/scene kids. Grindcore (as well as early hardcore) is the exception and is a genre that I prefer to listen to over Death Metal if I am listening to something for sheer heaviness. The most intense gigs I have been to have been grindcore gigs, moshing everywhere you look but they are nice guys for the most part and pure adrenaline.

Excellent Grindcore...

Spoiler

And the shit that this genre get compared to because of the -core in the title...

There have been quite a few good tech death bands to come out, but a lot of death metal without the tech elements is exceedingly boring (basically anything that isn't already somewhat popular). I find it more interesting when it's mixed with other stuff (Veil of Maya, The Contortionist, BTBAM). Also, all the grindcore you posted is good, but it's the only grindcore I have any interest in. And as for all the Asking Alexandria-type bands...uuuuuughhhh. The only one I have any taste for is Of Mice and Men, and it looks like they may be going towards the dark side of the tunnel.

 

[cookyy2k]

I have noticed a lot of people have a big misconception when it comes to how they think about death metal fans and performers themselves. They think they are horrible antisocial, violent members of society. I told a friend I was going to see Cannibal Corpse and jokingly asked him if he wanted to come (as he has different music tastes). His response was something along the lines of "no, I don't want to die."

I kind of compare this to say Stephen King. Stephen King's books feature evil and violent things, but most people wouldn't think anything of Stephen King being like the characters and stories he portrays.

I have noticed in fact that death metal fans are extremely friendly humble people. Going to a death metal concert there is a great sense of comradely. Some of the nicest people I have met in my life are fans of vulgar and violent bands like this.

What are your thoughts?

I think your friend may be worried by this sort of thing;

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Not uncommon (at Wacken anyway). All great fun. Also not long til Wacken this year. Got my tickets and can't wait.

 

[xplosive59]

There have been quite a few good tech death bands to come out, but a lot of death metal without the tech elements is exceedingly boring (basically anything that isn't already somewhat popular). I find it more interesting when it's mixed with other stuff (Veil of Maya, The Contortionist, BTBAM). Also, all the grindcore you posted is good, but it's the only grindcore I have any interest in. And as for all the Asking Alexandria-type bands...uuuuuughhhh. The only one I have any taste for is Of Mice and Men, and it looks like they may be going towards the dark side of the tunnel.

Yeah, I love BTBAM and Dan Briggs Is an idol of mine! Veil of Maya and Contortionist are both excellent as well but I did not want to count them as modern death metal bands, mainly because they have influences from across the board and are more progressive compared to the bands I have quoted (apart from Cynic, who are still one of the most original bands in the industry today). BTBAM in particular are pretty much the band I believe that can bring creativity back to mainstream metal, heck Dan Briggs's side project Trioscapes was possibly one of the most creative metal albums this year, sounding like Frank Zappa's Hot Rats (one of my all time favourite albums) on acid and only matched in sure technicality in Jazz Fusion metal with Steve DiGiorgio's short lived project Dark Hall. I am a bassist btw if you have not already guessed and that is why Jazz fusion/metal appeals to me more than it does to others.

 

[GiantRaven]

Sometimes i worry about the kind of people who enjoys bands who seriously and consistently write nothing but murder death kill for their lyrics, i mean, it is kind of funny, for like 10 minutes, maybe they just can not think of anything else, and then i can probably sympathise

Sometimes i worry about the kind of people who enjoys developers who seriously and consistently develop nothing but murder death kill for their games, i mean, it is kind of funny, for like 10 minutes, maybe they just can not think of anything else, and then i can probably sympathise

 

[someonehairy-ish]

Now here's what happened:

You just linked me to possibly the single most boring mosh pit of all time -.- hardcore dancing idiots always make them boring

Idk. Holding up mosh pits as any kind of evidence that metalheads are violent is laughable. The aim of a good pit isn't to hurt people, it's to get the adrenaline going and let loose.

On the more mellow songs (or more mellow parts of songs) people would just stare in awe, but get to the heavy parts and total mosh central ensued.

Oh yeah, for the encore on one of the shows they came back out and played Black Rose Immortal *total squealing*

Ohhh man. Where was this? When was this??

They did Porcelain Heart in London when I saw em. Never done it in the UK before. Awesome.

OT: People who accuse metal of being overly depressing or inciting violence are hilarious. Sure, some songs are depressing, but usually in a cathartic way that leaves you feeling uplifted after having listened to them. Some concerts are almost violent - in the same way that a heated sports event is almost violent. These are not negative qualities.

 

[Psykoma]

On the more mellow songs (or more mellow parts of songs) people would just stare in awe, but get to the heavy parts and total mosh central ensued.

Oh yeah, for the encore on one of the shows they came back out and played Black Rose Immortal *total squealing*

Ohhh man. Where was this? When was this??

They did Porcelain Heart in London when I saw em. Never done it in the UK before. Awesome.

It was in the Medley theatre in Montreal.
When? Oh god, probably sometime in 2004 to 2006, I don't remember specifically... :/

 

[yeti585]

Now here's what happened:

You just linked me to possibly the single most boring mosh pit of all time -.- hardcore dancing idiots always make them boring

Idk. Holding up mosh pits as any kind of evidence that metalheads are violent is laughable. The aim of a good pit isn't to hurt people, it's to get the adrenaline going and let loose.

I wasn't using it as an example. I was saying it was funny that people were hardcore dancing to that type of band. They looked like idiots doing it.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

You just linked me to possibly the single most boring mosh pit of all time -.- hardcore dancing idiots always make them boring

Idk. Holding up mosh pits as any kind of evidence that metalheads are violent is laughable. The aim of a good pit isn't to hurt people, it's to get the adrenaline going and let loose.

I wasn't using it as an example. I was saying it was funny that people were hardcore dancing to that type of band. They looked like idiots doing it.

Ahhh ok I getcha now. Yeah, I agree. It is funny but - usually hardcore pits are just irritating. For some reason scene kids seem to love em...

 

[MisterGobbles]

There have been quite a few good tech death bands to come out, but a lot of death metal without the tech elements is exceedingly boring (basically anything that isn't already somewhat popular). I find it more interesting when it's mixed with other stuff (Veil of Maya, The Contortionist, BTBAM). Also, all the grindcore you posted is good, but it's the only grindcore I have any interest in. And as for all the Asking Alexandria-type bands...uuuuuughhhh. The only one I have any taste for is Of Mice and Men, and it looks like they may be going towards the dark side of the tunnel.

Yeah, I love BTBAM and Dan Briggs Is an idol of mine! Veil of Maya and Contortionist are both excellent as well but I did not want to count them as modern death metal bands, mainly because they have influences from across the board and are more progressive compared to the bands I have quoted (apart from Cynic, who are still one of the most original bands in the industry today). BTBAM in particular are pretty much the band I believe that can bring creativity back to mainstream metal, heck Dan Briggs's side project Trioscapes was possibly one of the most creative metal albums this year, sounding like Frank Zappa's Hot Rats (one of my all time favourite albums) on acid and only matched in sure technicality in Jazz Fusion metal with Steve DiGiorgio's short lived project Dark Hall. I am a bassist btw if you have not already guessed and that is why Jazz fusion/metal appeals to me more than it does to others.

I'm a guitarist myself, and I've been meaning to hear that Trioscapes stuff but I haven't yet. I wouldn't really count it as "metal" though, in the same way that TRAM isn't really metal. And yeah, I think that death metal in the vein of Obscura and Revocation (Necrophagist, The Faceless, Gorod, Origin, etc) is defenitely the best death metal out there nowadays. And if you're a bassist, I'm assuming you've heard Evan Brewer. Guy's a mad genius.

 

[xplosive59]

I'm a guitarist myself, and I've been meaning to hear that Trioscapes stuff but I haven't yet. I wouldn't really count it as "metal" though, in the same way that TRAM isn't really metal. And yeah, I think that death metal in the vein of Obscura and Revocation (Necrophagist, The Faceless, Gorod, Origin, etc) is defenitely the best death metal out there nowadays. And if you're a bassist, I'm assuming you've heard Evan Brewer. Guy's a mad genius.

Yeah, I do love Evan Brewer's work, his solo album last year was excellent and is one of the examples I use when people say "bass is piss easy, guitarist could play anything that you can" as well as Steve DiGiorgio, Victor Wooten, John Taylor of Duran Duran, Stuart Zender and Dan Briggs. I would probably go so far to say that Evan Brewer is the Victor Wooten of modern metal after seeing his solos using 2 basses and 4 finger double hand tapping, dude is immensely talented.