Defending one's self

[The Afrodactyl]

After seeing the thread about what is and isn't legal as self defense, I was inspired.

So, Escapist; you're in a crowded street and you are approached by a gang of people. These people attack you. How do you defend yourself?

Rules:
You can only use what is readily available in a crowded street.
You have no-one else to fight for you, and you can't run away due to the crowds.

Myself? If the guy's aren't too big, I'd use my 8 years of karate to go after one, and hope that the shock of seeing a really skinny guy snap someone's arm does the rest.

If they're a lot bigger than me, I'd consign myself to having the hell kicked out of me, but I'd try to do some damage first. The karabiner on my keys makes for a handy knuckle duster.

:EDIT:
You don't necessarily have to overpower and defeat the entire group (gang is a bit much, say 4 or 5 guys), you just have to try to make enough an impact to slow them down so that the crowd can break it up.

 

[Sleekgiant]

What did I do to make this gang of people mad exactly?
OT: RUN LIKE HELL

a gang of people

gang of people

gang

8 years of karate

What would really happen, OP gets decked and mugged

 

[CaptainAverage]

Well, if im in a crowd then the fight will surely not last very long, it will be broken up and/or people will call the authorities.

 

[The Afrodactyl]

What did I do to make this gang of people mad exactly?
OT: RUN LIKE HELL

a gang of people

gang of people

gang

8 years of karate

What would really happen, OP gets decked and mugged

You can't run away, the crowd is too thick.

You don't know why they hav taken a disliking to you, they just have.

And yes. I would have the shit kicked out of me and everything on me stolen. But I'd get one good hit in before I went down.

 

[AngelicSven]

Yeah, assuming the gang is 8 people or more, karate isn't gonna do much unless you're Batman, they'll all rush you. Though, Aren't Karabiners awesome though, I have one and I love it.

OT: Strike one, slip out, and dash away.

Edit: How does the crowd stop you from getting away? I've been in filled to the brim mosh pits and I've slipped out of them.

 

[vanthebaron]

to defent my self: grab the closest object and start swinging for the fences

 

[GiglameshSoulEater]

I pull out my chainsaw. Lynch this, you bastards!

 

[Sleekgiant]

You can't run away, the crowd is too thick.

THe hell, is the crowd made of bricks, shoving people always works.

You don't know why they hav taken a disliking to you, they just have.

So they must be Templars......

And yes. I would have the shit kicked out of me and everything on me stolen. But I'd get one good hit in before I went down.

Hmmmmm, maybe.....

 

[viranimus]

Need more variable input.

Size of the guys
Number of opponents
Weapons equipped by said guys
More detailed environmental analysis
etc, etc, etc

Every situation is winnable, but its a matter of determining the various factors vs plotting an appropriate strategy to counteract.

 

[Wadders]

If theres a thick crowd then why would I need to fight. I'd get as far as I could and just blend into the crowd. Somehow.

 

[duckers101]

puke on them

as sick as it sounds it works too well
the smell makes them puke then you puke
if you plan it then your fine but their
mentally scared and well never screw with
you again

 

[Toaster Hunter]

I would try to position myself in a way that would prevent them from surrounding me and take them out one by one. This will more than likely fail, so the best chance of walking away is to make such as bloody mess of the first guy I reach that the others will get the message and leave me alone.

 

[JLML]

Pull out my Shinai and try to keep them all in front of me. With luck, a good Tsugi Ashi, A nice Kiai and a hard swing at the leaders head would scare them enough to leave me alone. What, pretty much every time I'm in town I have my Shinai with me. <.<

 

[The Afrodactyl]

Need more variable input.

Size of the guys
Number of opponents
Weapons equipped by said guys
More detailed environmental analysis
etc, etc, etc

Every situation is winnable, but its a matter of determining the various factors vs plotting an appropriate strategy to counteract.

Say the average of the guys is around 5 foot 9 inches, about 80-100 kilos apiece. (175-200 pounds)

Say 4-5 guys, with knuckle dusters, makeshift punch spikes (keys between knuckles) and various other sharp and blunt things.

Crowd is very busy, not so thick that it is solid (the wall impression), but thick enough that you couldn't just disappear (You'd have to push, shove, etc.)

 

[Wadders]

If theres a thick crowd then why would I need to fight. I'd get as far as I could and just blend into the crowd. Somehow.

You are wearing a giant bunny suit, you cannot blend in.

I am? This is one fucked up scenario haha

Well I guess the bunny suit would impede my movements so that attempting to defend myself would be useless, so I'd adopt the foetal position and hope that the giant fluffy costume protects me from the worst of the blows

 

[Raddragon]

If you have no martial arts experience you either use the crowd to your advantage, try to talk it over or accept your unfortunate fate.

If you do have martial arts experience and dashing trough the crowd seems dull, you can always try to fight (good option if you want to get your ass kicked)

If i was forced to fight, I suppose i'd go for vitals, possibly using a hit-dash-run tactic.
altough I don't suppose running, kicking a guy on the nuts, dashing and continuing to run is a very easy option.... But dash ,hit vitals, dash - if sucessful, should work good.

I suppose if you hit one guy pretty good, the others may get scared off, but i wouldn't count on it.

I'd just pray they got tired easily, they were stupid,they didn't have a martial arts background and were weaponless.

 

[viranimus]

Well.. lets presume this is an urban environment considering the number of people it would take to get that crowded.

You use what is available to you. Most available thing available is the people. Use them to isolate one individual out of the group. You would likely have to swim upstream of the crowd in order to force them to spread out and create some degree of separation.

Strike quickly and effectively (say a downward thrust to the top of the knee cap to basically ensure the guy would never walk unaided again.

Given that there is a mass of people hindering mobility look for anything in the environment to give you a boost of speed such as walking up onto parked vehicles. Van rooftops while not exactly sure footing would give you a high ground advantage.

Continue to isolate and incapacitate them until you successfully whittle their numbers down.

Always keep moving, dont allow yourself to get tied up in any one action for more than a second or two because its always harder to hit a moving target than a stationary one.

Weapons from the environment also help such as broken glass to be used as projectiles or sticks, pipes to be used as range weapons.

Again.. still not really specific enough to give an exact scenario... So I just gave some ideas and points based on what was laid out and me filling in some of the blanks. Though the problem with the scenario is that in real life circumstances if there is a fight occurring typically people will get out of the way in order to keep themselves from getting hurt, or potentially join in in a group to break the fight up. People arent going to keep walking by minding their own business ala Assassins creed. But the point is... evaluate, decide. Fight on the best terms possible for you. Favor reaction over action in direct confrontation. Keep moving, Keep distance.

As long as firearms or more destructive weapons aren't a part of the equation with enough persistence and quick thinking just about any odds can be turned to your favor.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Four or five? Karate would do nothing. You'd punch one and the others would beat the shit out of you.

Anyway, run into traffic. Because they wouldn't be stupid enough to chase me there, and I'd hopefully be able to dodge the cars.