Defining Misogynism

[OmniscientOstrich]

Holy shit...he's literally an armchair intellectual...the internet has come full circle people, be very afraid.

 

[halfeclipse]

But "misogyny" implies an attitude in which some kind of destruction or subjugation of females isn't a hypothetical byproduct of behavior, but a goal.

No, it doesn't. Misogyny covers the superiority and the non-intentional sexism too. The men who use women like objects that exist only to serve them are misogynist not because they angrily hate the women they're using, but because they have contempt (which is a form of hatred) for the idea of women as their equal, or as fully realised human beings. The man who hates the idea that women might invade his "sacred male space" or expresses contempt at the idea that a woman might be his equal (or anything more than a sex object), is a misogynist.

Seems like you have applied misogyny in an overly broad manner. Sure, hating women and seeing them as objects may be misogyny, but the discomfort that women might invade a sacred male space certainly is not.

Nor is viewing women as unequal, or discriminating on that basis. That's just sexism.

Not saying that those views are right, just that you're wrong.

Misogyny is the detestation or hatred of women. It's literally in the name, the roots are "I hate" and "Women."

Regardless of the context, severity, or supposed justification those are all examples of either misogyny, or it's consequences.

 

[Lieju]

Pretty spot on about video games. I'm tired of hearing about sexism in video games. It's no worse in that media than any other, sexist idiots in online games notwithstanding. It doesn't need to change until there is a market reason to do so,

What, like the fact that 50% of consumers are women?

 

[Darken12]

Seems like you have applied misogyny in an overly broad manner. Sure, hating women and seeing them as objects may be misogyny, but the discomfort that women might invade a sacred male space certainly is not.

Nor is viewing women as unequal, or discriminating on that basis. That's just sexism.

If those sexist actions/conceptions stem from contempt, hatred or anger at women or their status as fully realised human beings and/or their status as the equals of men, that's misogyny.

 

[Azaraxzealot]

even a broken clock is right twice a day? He has some valid points, but that's amidst 99% bullshit and eye-rolling entitlement.

 

[Azaraxzealot]

Nope, just the hatred of women.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misogyny

Some people like to apply it to "anything that happens to offend me today" though. You can notice a few people in this thread calling him misogynistic when he doesn't really seem to be, he is more chauvinistic and bigoted, as he is a douche but does not appear to hate women.

"Modern Women are completely out of control. They have gone completely feral, and their behaviour is completely unacceptable in a civilized society."

Oh my lands that was hilarious! XD Because women apparently belong in the kitchen according to him (guy in video). But like I said before, there are some valid arguments, they just are never backed up by any evidence other than "I've met women before, they're meanies." Most of it is just bullshit and entitlement, however.

 

[MrCollins]

Definition of misogyny
noun
[mass noun]
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women

That is the definition of Misogyny, as has been pointed out several times by now, it took all of 0 seconds to get what this guy was going to say and I lasted 17s till I had to make it stop.

 

[Zipa]

Shouldn't this guy be busy leading NOD against the forces of GDI?

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one that though that lol. Though I doubt Joseph Kurgen is anywhere close to this guys level of douchebag.

 

[The Funslinger]

Well, that was fun, it's always nice to see someone make an ass of himself, and he does it in such an eloquent way and with such flamboyancy, that it's just a joy to behold.




I think I want to watch more of his videos now, this could turn out to be great entertainment.

I know, it almost sweeps you up, because he's well spoken, and admittedly charismatic. But fuck me, it's like he's never heard the word "spectrum" before.

And he keeps saying this shit is fact. "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Edit for consistency: I managed to get 11 minutes in before my nose started bleeding.

 

[Lieju]

Pretty spot on about video games. I'm tired of hearing about sexism in video games. It's no worse in that media than any other, sexist idiots in online games notwithstanding. It doesn't need to change until there is a market reason to do so,

What, like the fact that 50% of consumers are women?

Actually, I take serious issue with that statistic. I know that Jim Sterling used it to make a point in his video yesterday, but I don't think that it applies to the types of games that we are talking about.

The only thing that I could find on it when I did my own research was a study by the ESRB that notes a sharp rise due to casual pad and phone games. In other words, not the games that we usually consider in our discussions.

In a sense, Jim was guilty of equivocation of one type of gaming with another. Women aren't underrepresented despite being 50% of the gaming market, they are actually part of a market that may may as well be separate.

I know it will be anecdotal, but think about that 50% claim. Does it seem right to you? My experience tells me that it is probably wrong, what does yours tell you?

Half of human population is female, that was the statistic I was referring to.
If women aren't playing the more hard-core games, then the question should be 'why'?
Maybe because of the sexism, if not in the games, then in the marketing that makes the games like Bioshock Infinite look like they are for boys.

 

[Cette]

I'd just like to say how heartening to see the escapist as a whole actually agree on something for once. When the worst disagreement in a thread is people arguing the semantics of exactly what sort of doucherocket the guy is and how long we were each able to tolerate him before ejecting tis a joyous day indeed.


Also about one minute.


Did his a few women in each generation statement remind anyone else of Calvin Candie's one black man in a thousand thing?

 

[chiggerwood]

Good evening Mr. Bond. I would like to speak to you about feminist theory.

OT: Is this guy serious? I can't help but think that this John Waters looking ************ is engaged in some sort of performance piece, that we're just not getting. Either that or it's not an actual thought, but instead my brain deluding myself as a sort of defense mechanism. Either way I'm buying this guys book, I have to peer deeper into his mind. Who knows what treasures lie within?

Oh by the way 12:16

 

[Saviordd1]

I love that this thread practically turned into an endurance thread.

That said I agree with pretty much being said in this thread.

 

[aba1]

Edit2: I was watching a few related videos out of curiosity and I thought this video hit some interesting points.

You can only call Warren Farrell 'related' to trash like this in the loosest sense, that they both deal with sort of the same subject matter. He's a real academic who does actual research, has a history of organizational involvement, and a number of books in print. It's like the difference between a post on Jezebel and a paper by Kristeva.

OP: If you can't tell, I don't think much of that video.

Ohh ya wasn't saying they were the same at all just that it was a similar topic and that this brought some interesting ideas to the table worth thinking about. The other video is just ridiculous.