Del Toro to direct new LOTR movies

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

Aww I was hoping that Del Torro would work more on H.P. Lovecraft adaptations (he said he was working on Call of Cthulu).

 

[electric discordian]

Aww I was hoping that Del Torro would work more on H.P. Lovecraft adaptations (he said he was working on Call of Cthulu).

Now to be totally hypocritcal for a few seconds that would really work, it may finally turn out to be a good adaptation of the great mans work. Yeah I know this appears to be back peddaling but hey its in the cause of Lovecraft

 

[Arbre]

Aww I was hoping that Del Torro would work more on H.P. Lovecraft adaptations (he said he was working on Call of Cthulu).

Is he the only trendy director these days to enjoy tentacles?

 

[nightfish]

I am now off to read an atlas and discern the difference between spain and mexico!

indeed, methinks you need to brush up on geography

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Bad choice though... My first thought was "Oh shit, now how are they going to manage to fuck up the third greatest Trilogy of all time?" (So what if I love BOTH Star Wars trilogies? That is my opinion...) Luckily it is The Hobbit... I was kind of hoping they would make a movie of that book, as it is the only of his books that I have actually read. I can't wait now...

they will do that by making a bridging story, that's what the second hobbit movie is

it's what happens between the hobbit and lotr, not withstanding the fact bilbo said "he hadn't left the shire or done anything of importance since the last time"

tho i'd like to see some stuff about the creation of the rings and numenor and all that as a bit of a bridge for the story

 

[windfish]

i'd really like to see them do the silmarillion, multiple balrog fights and get to see morogoth and galadriels betrayal and all that fun stuff and if we're lucky a very young elrond and his brother

I LOVED the Silmarillion, but there is no feasible way to make it a movie, or even a TV series. Too many characters, too large a timespan, etc. Shame.

you could say that a lot was missed from LoTR and they still did it.

Yeah, but the Silmarillion is a whole different ballgame to Lord Of The Rings. There's probably enough material within that one book to amount to ten LOTRs. And while I enjoyed it, it lacked the essential human element to transfer well to screen. The Silmarillion is focused around grand heroes like Feanor and Beren, and epic cities like Gondolin. There aren't any Sam Gamgee characters or Bree settings that a viewing audience would be able to relate to. That's not a slight on Tolkien. Indeed, that's the way he set out for the Silmarillion to be, to be comparable to the great myths and legends of British (and other) folklore. Such a grand setting, however, while good in novel form, really doesn't translate well to film.

Although having said that, I have sometimes pondered on whether a videogame could be made in the Silmarillion setting. Maybe an RPG with good/evil elements, a la KOTOR...

I would think it could be done but it would need a good set of directors / producers and screenwriters.

I absolutely love the Silmarillion, but I don't think it could/should be made into a movie.

The Silmarillion largely exists to tell the whole story of Middle Earth, from the First Age of the Lamps to the Fourth Age of the Sun. Its derived purpose, since Tolkien didn't live long enough to really flesh it out, is to give fans of Middle Earth a library of knowledge of the sheer depth and world of Middle Earth. After reading the Silmarillion, you KNOW stuff about Middle Earth, and you know who all the great heroes are, you know the origins of all the creatures, except those that Tolkien purposely wanted to remain a mystery (Bombadil hell yeah). Part of the joy of reading the Silmarillion is that, much like reading an anthology of mythology, you have lots of "reader's freedom" to imagine the stories spun out from the largely outline-based narratives. A movie could not possibly come close to satisfying this way.

(Part the trouble with the Silmarillion is that it's largely written as a mythology anthology, and some entire chunks of the narrative are written by Christopher Tolkien based on his notes.)

Anyway, for these and other reasons, a film of the Silmarillion would actually be better served as a docudrama, or History Channel mini-series, than a Hollywood movie. The reason many of the changes to LOTR were made for the films was to make it "function" as a movie. Too much would have to be changed/invented about the Silmarillion for it to function that way.

Oh yeah, and Del Toro is the best possible man for the job.

 

[nightfish]

I absolutely love the Silmarillion, but I don't think it could/should be made into a movie.

The Silmarillion largely exists to tell the whole story of Middle Earth, from the First Age of the Lamps to the Fourth Age of the Sun. Its derived purpose, since Tolkien didn't live long enough to really flesh it out, is to give fans of Middle Earth a library of knowledge of the sheer depth and world of Middle Earth. After reading the Silmarillion, you KNOW stuff about Middle Earth, and you know who all the great heroes are, you know the origins of all the creatures, except those that Tolkien purposely wanted to remain a mystery (Bombadil hell yeah). Part of the joy of reading the Silmarillion is that, much like reading an anthology of mythology, you have lots of "reader's freedom" to imagine the stories spun out from the largely outline-based narratives. A movie could not possibly come close to satisfying this way.

(Part the trouble with the Silmarillion is that it's largely written as a mythology anthology, and some entire chunks of the narrative are written by Christopher Tolkien based on his notes.)

Anyway, for these and other reasons, a film of the Silmarillion would actually be better served as a docudrama, or History Channel mini-series, than a Hollywood movie. The reason many of the changes to LOTR were made for the films was to make it "function" as a movie. Too much would have to be changed/invented about the Silmarillion for it to function that way.

Oh yeah, and Del Toro is the best possible man for the job.

I think if they were going to do it, they might do it over a few parts aka LoTR

saying that, there are two films being made back to back - one is 'the hobbit' and according to IMDB the other is the 'hobbit 2'? - whatever that is

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

If I understand correctly, The Hobbit 2 is a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

If I understand correctly, The Hobbit 2 is a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.

Would it not just be better to split The Hobbit into two films? After all, there is an awful lot of stuff that happens in that book, and even in a 3 hour film (c'mon, as if it's going to be any less), they're going to have to rush or skip a huge amount of stuff.

They may be doing that, too, and that's what TH2 is...the other half of the book.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

If I understand correctly, The Hobbit 2 is a bridge between The Hobbit and LOTR.

Would it not just be better to split The Hobbit into two films? After all, there is an awful lot of stuff that happens in that book, and even in a 3 hour film (c'mon, as if it's going to be any less), they're going to have to rush or skip a huge amount of stuff.

thebobmaster is correct, it's going to be a bridge between the hobbit and lotr and bilbo better NOT be in it cause they say that bilbo never left the shire again until after his bday party.

but i do agree they should break it into 2 movies instead of one movie with stuff cut out of it. i'm not really sure what you could cut out tho, the hobbit is packed full of important stuffs, it's not like tom bombadil or certain other parts in lotr that aren't in the movies but are in the books

 

[Generic Redshirt]

I don?t think splitting the Hobbit up would be a good idea.
However, ignoring the fact that they?ve apparently said that the second movie will bridge the gap between The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, because it doesn?t fit my theory. Has anyone thought they might be looking at Children of Hurin (sp?) for a movie.
Personally I think it would make a great movie as it moves at a much faster pace than either the Hobbit or the Lord of the Rings. Though they could do with getting with the constant name changes of the main lead, the names are hard enough to follow without them changing every chapter.