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People don't like the ending? I thought that was one of the only good parts of the second season. It's a fitting end. I HATED the two replacements for L. It really kind of killed the show for me. I wish it just ended after the first season.
Oh man, despite Light being a total douche canoe (Preeetty much being the villain), I laughed when I realized he almost had the world under his control until it turns out Mikami fucked it all up with one simple mistake. Ahh, that was quite an interesting ending. I have the entire manga box set too, it's pretty neat with the extra scenes and stuff in there
Yeah it still holds up. I think people dislike it more due to oversaturation than anything else...
Different people have different issues with the ending etc but my problem with the anime was it made Light less pathetic in defeat compared to the manga. Him groveling up to Ryuk as his last hope, seeing him write his name in the death note, realizing he's gonna die, and then crying how he doesn't want to die, is so much better than what we got in the anime where he runs off despite being shot. Also Mikami stabbing himself to death with a pen is dumb. (Instead of renouncing Light as god after seeing how pathetic he is and dying in prison)President Bagel said:
Yeah, I think Death Note holds up, though I think that the anime takes a few too many liberties with the source material. As already mentioned, the ending, for instance. The anime really goes through lengths to romanticize the relationship between Light and L - and not just in the pairing sense, though the anime has its fair share of fanservice. The anime also generally treats Light with a lot more dignity than he deserves. Unlike most anime adaptations, Death Note's art at least looks good. It has a good deal of flashy, over-the-top imagery that is just downright comedic at times ("I'll take this potato chip... and eat it!").
I was kind of unlucky, as the first episode of Death Note I saw on Toonami as a tween was the last episode. So I went into the series knowing what would happen, but I still enjoyed the series immensely. Unlike many others, I enjoyed the second act, they needed two characters to make up for the charisma and personality that L brought to the table.
Seeing Light's mask slip in the last few acts was just poetic, considering how calm and collected he had been through thought the whole series. When he died halfway up that stairway (symbolizing how he could go to neither heaven or hell) I can't describe the delicious melancholy I felt.
Absolutely masterful, an anime I would recommend to anyone.
Seeing Light's mask slip in the last few acts was just poetic, considering how calm and collected he had been through thought the whole series. When he died halfway up that stairway (symbolizing how he could go to neither heaven or hell) I can't describe the delicious melancholy I felt.
Absolutely masterful, an anime I would recommend to anyone.
No one goes to heaven or hell, that's the point (did they leave that scene out of the anime? I generally just reread the manga)Ebola_chan said:
Because no heaven nor hell exists, this world is it, it's directly stated by Ryuk (after Light figures it out since he never believed in afterlife to begin with), and Light's death scene is him knowing this is it, there is nothing more, he is about to stop existing, and he can't handle the same thing happening to him he has inflicted on countless others.
Sorry! I just really dislike how the anime handled that scene.
Ditto. the Death scene was so satisfying in the manga, and the anime decides to make a complete 180 about how it went?Lieju said:
Also, did they show in the anime how Misa was still alive in the end? eventhough she shortened her life span by half like, 2, 3 times?
Death Note is indeed very good. Very cleverly made with lots of psychological horror you don't see often. The first half is definitely the strongest and after that it kinda loses steam a bit. I also didn't particularly like the ending. Light was portrayed as this ice cold manipulative sociopath unable to feel emotions and who would even sacrifice his own sister and who now suddenly falls apart like some emotional crybaby. At the very last minute it tried to add an element of humanity to a character that lacked any trace of it.
I can see however how Light's particular adolescent view on justice resonates so strongly considering the anime demographic.
I can see however how Light's particular adolescent view on justice resonates so strongly considering the anime demographic.
If Light had made the deal to get shinigami eyes in exchange for half of his lifespan, would the series end at season one?
Misa's fate and lifespan is such a confusing thing tbh.Jute88 said:
She was supposed to die when that stalker tried to kill her, but the shinigami saved her and died, giving his lifespan to Misa... But with all the killing Light was doing everyone's lifespans got messed up anyway, it's confusing. (although even if she had a normal human lifespan, she was young enough to easily live a decade or so even after cutting her lifespan in half a few times.)
As for her fate, it's vague. She is shown standing at the edge of a building and it's implied she's going to kill herself. Considering her unhealthy relationship with Light, yeah, she'd either kill herself or join the Light-cultwe see at the end of the manga... Unless her losing her memories of death notes was enough to rewrite her obsession with Kira/Light.
(I mean she doesn't seem too attached to Kira until she finds out it's Light but who knows)
Who knows - maybe, maybe not. Do remember that Light died because Ryuk wrote his name in his book. Which means that Light was going to survive the gunshot but we don't know how long exactly would he have lived if it wasn't for Ryuk.Dismal purple said:
Death Note was one of the shows that suffered from over hype. It was fun on a first watch, but got repetitive on repeated watches. I hated the ending, no matter the version. It wasn't so much what happened to Light, than how it happened. I hate Near so much; he is a weak, pathetic, L clone. If they didn't want to kill L off, why did they replace him with a unfunny spoiled brat? Thank God, the live-action film fixed that whole issue.
I agree. I was genuinely surprised at how much more I liked the story of the live action movie than the combined two season of the anime.CoCage said:
Eh...I prefer the manga ending. Light's defeat is just so much more visceral and beautifully contrasts his initial meeting with Ryuk. When he first meets Ryuk, he believes that Ryuk is going to kill him for using the notebook, and after a moment of terror at seeing him Light calmly accepts the fact. When he's finally defeated he's pleading for some way out, impotently screaming that he doesn't want to die. More than anything else I think that shows just how far Light had fallen. At the start he had believed that his life was an acceptable cost for trying to make the world better. And at the end he completely falls apart when he is once again faced with his own imminent mortality; not because of his plans, not because of his goals, but for the pure, simple, selfish, and hypocritical fact that he was afraid to die. At the start of the story, Light had the mindset of a hero (his actual actions notwithstanding), but at the end he was villainous coward.President Bagel said:
I feel Death Note may be a victim of its own popularity. Like with everything popular, it always seems that there are those who wish to claim that it is overhyped. And maybe it was merely overhyped to them and could never live up to the expectations (this is why I generally try to not oversell anything to anyone). Or maybe they merely want to be contrarian for the sake of it. I can never really tell.
Death Note is a great series. I do feel that the second half is much weaker, but I think that is due to the sudden introduction of two new characters who are trying to live up to L. And sadly, they just don't get enough development to truly stand out compared to him. They simply can't fill his shoes. It's possible that the second half would have been better if there were only one of them, but I'm not sure.
All in all, a great, but not quite perfect series.
Death Note is a great series. I do feel that the second half is much weaker, but I think that is due to the sudden introduction of two new characters who are trying to live up to L. And sadly, they just don't get enough development to truly stand out compared to him. They simply can't fill his shoes. It's possible that the second half would have been better if there were only one of them, but I'm not sure.
All in all, a great, but not quite perfect series.
Pretty much exactly how I feel. I really prefer the manga ending a ton. Not to say that the anime ending is bad, I just feel that the ending in the manga is more fitting.Lieju said:
I recall reading that their intent was that the Mello and Near are both inferior to L but their abilities combined they can achieve what L couldn't, and while I can see that, I don't think it quite comes together... Maybe with a bit more stuff about their relationship.Saltyk said:
It seemed to come down to luck more than anything. It's been a while since I read it but I think the idea was that Near lacked L's hands on approach and Mello was too reckless which were both weaknesses that would have stopped them from defeating Light on their own but Mello kidnapping Takada influenced the events somehow...
I get what it's going for but it doesn't quite work...
I think the anime gave more screen time to the half with L too, which was one of the things the anime did well I think.
That's pretty accurate. What killed the intended "two of them combined" angle was that it really wasn't portrayed. The two never really work together, never coordinated their actions or picked up each other's slack and - as you said - their greatest triumph was something they lucked into. Mello's kidnapping of Takada led to the meticulous Mikami breaking his schedule, which clued Near's team into a crucial piece of information that nobody suspected up to that point.Lieju said:
There's good reason that the second half is generally viewed as inferior. Its writing isn't nearly as tight as the first half.
It's been a couple of years since I last re-watched the series so I could be wrong, but I don't remember that being in the show. If I recall, it's one of the rules of the Death Note that whoever writes in it cannot go to either Heaven or Hell. I guess it's different in the manga, but I don't read any manga, the only graphic novel I follow is The Walking Dead.Lieju said:
But I hear Death Note is coming to Netflix as a live action series, with Willem Dafoe voicing Ryuk. So we'll get to see them choose whichever ending is canon. And that's pretty neat.