Detractors of Final Fantasy VII: Thank You
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When was the last time you played it? I loved TLoD with a passion for years. Plugged it in not too long ago and the nostalgia goggles died a horrifying death to the barrage of nonsensical dialogue and poor translation. That was the point I stopped loving it for what it was and started loving it for everything it could have been. Something amazing was there but parts of it got lost in translation. Seriously, if I knew how, I would go into the files of the game and just proofread the entire script. And the combat system I'd once thought was the bee's knees, I now realized was rather shallow beyond the additions themselves. Fun, but shallow.irmasterlol said:
That being said, Meru is still awesome and Demon's Gate is the craziest attack EVER. Nothing can take that away.
OT: I don't know what points everyone is missing. I get exactly where OP is coming from. The never ending cascade of smug negativity from people that claim to not care but are very vocal in their apathy whenever Final Fantasy is brought up has worn down my enjoyment of VII over the years.
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FF IV and VI are still better. Sorry, been playing FF since it was on the NES (yes, I am that old), while technically FFVII was a big leap, the story was dull and I really didn't like following emo Cloud around. That character set a nasty trend for the series.
FF IV and VI are still better. Sorry, been playing FF since it was on the NES (yes, I am that old), while technically FFVII was a big leap, the story was dull and I really didn't like following emo Cloud around. That character set a nasty trend for the series.
I can honestly say I sit in the nose-bleed-high stands with a curious few who actually bothered to read that entire rant. Yes, a rant, that is what that was, or more or less it seems more like one long comment/counter-arguement that you ment to tell someone you really hate, but instead wussed out in the process and decided to turn to the faceless shell that is the internet.
That being say I do have to say that your standpoint isn't entirely rediculous, there are waaay too many people out there who bash on older generation stuff. From what I usually see, it is actually the generation or two right after ours that has 'been recommended' the game by an older sibling or friend, played it and felt like shit, why? Because they have been spoiled by their 'status quo' of gaming beginning in the PS2/gamecube/xbox era or at least thats what I think. I can honestly say that FFVII isn't my favorite, I prefered FFIX because of the playstyle, characters, and story (not trying to downplay 7, I just have a personal opinion.)
If people needling away at something on the internet bothers you, you may have a serious problem, argueing on the internet usually amounts to nothing (so what am I doing here?). Too bad you don't have metric tons of cash with which to Jay and Silent Bob your way through an arguement/insult:
WARNING!! Swearing, ass-kicking, and "Internet Justice" ahead!!!
That being say I do have to say that your standpoint isn't entirely rediculous, there are waaay too many people out there who bash on older generation stuff. From what I usually see, it is actually the generation or two right after ours that has 'been recommended' the game by an older sibling or friend, played it and felt like shit, why? Because they have been spoiled by their 'status quo' of gaming beginning in the PS2/gamecube/xbox era or at least thats what I think. I can honestly say that FFVII isn't my favorite, I prefered FFIX because of the playstyle, characters, and story (not trying to downplay 7, I just have a personal opinion.)
If people needling away at something on the internet bothers you, you may have a serious problem, argueing on the internet usually amounts to nothing (so what am I doing here?). Too bad you don't have metric tons of cash with which to Jay and Silent Bob your way through an arguement/insult:
WARNING!! Swearing, ass-kicking, and "Internet Justice" ahead!!!
I think he said that he saw so many comments about Final Fantasy VII being overrated, he finally caved in and got sick of all the talk of it.FalloutJack said:
Hmm, I know what you mean, sort of. There does seem to be a great deal of disdain for FFVII, but often it's just a case of "I don't think it's as good now as it was all those years ago". And that's pretty much how I feel. It isn't the best Final Fantasy game out there, but it's at least in the top five.
So what if other people bash it? That shouldn't hinder your enjoyment of the game in any way.
So what if other people bash it? That shouldn't hinder your enjoyment of the game in any way.
WHile i found it contradictory in starting a thread about not wanting to have any more discussion about something , irather interpreted it as a motion to initiate a discussion on the ability to stick to past glories. If we immediately disregard the fact that some gamers (not all) would rather look into the past and relive their glories of yore age. You have to take into account the cultural impact with which final fantasy 7 had. It had a tremendous change in the sense that A) it was kind of OK to like JRPGS (What are you playing? legend of dragoon/what the hell is that?/it's a roleplaying game kind of like FF7/i-now-immediately-recognize-the-validity-of-your-effort-and-am-less-likely-to-heckle-your-endeavours). And B) Almost everybody has a positive experience from a game.TheRocketeer said:
I'd even go as far as to say that Final fantasy seven helped the world Embrace the nerd culture. NO, WAIT,STOP!. I did not say, MADE or CONTRIBUTED but helped. Not on it's own, but as a contributiung factor that we can now see in retrospect helped move gaming into the mainstream medias attention and started to wash away the "dweeb" stamp upon which gaming and roleplaying had long been associated with.
It also helps Squaresoft to validate it's work, not only "we made FF7, remember?" but also in the sense "You didn't like GF's/Gambits/ or Sphere grids?" But we were just gambling and trying to change up the formula,like we did with FF7.
Also. Fallout. Muddafudgin FAllout. Was released in '97. It's still being discussed rather vibrantly. Like FF7 i can still hear detractors and fans rising to and shying away from it's defenses.
So, in close. Yah, i agree. It was a good game, it was fun, for ME at least, it's a pretty integral part of my adolescence. But it was a long time ago. Analyzing what it did right and enjoying it is pretty hat in my book. But idolizing it on a pillar and saying it was the best it'll ever get is, at best a highly subjective opinion, and at worse a rather depressing statement on gaming ever since.
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So, anyone else want to play FF VII after reading this?
I know I do. FF VII ate my childhood like a...thing that eats childhood.
So, anyone else want to play FF VII after reading this?
I know I do. FF VII ate my childhood like a...thing that eats childhood.
Funny this thread shows up. I was talking to a friend about Final Fantasy VII just a few hours ago, telling him how incredibly awesome it is and that he will never find a better game on this planet. Well, except for The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask.
FFVII was over-hyped and overrated. It's like, the 5th best final fantasy, not even top 3. Four, Five and Six are infinitely better games. Seven had good music, that's about it, and Tifa, my god Tifa.
Oh, were we not supposed to talk about it anymore? My bad.
Oh, were we not supposed to talk about it anymore? My bad.
That's why fans of film don't ever talk about Seven Samurai, or Casablanca or Gone with the Wind or any other old movie.
If something is considered a landmark of it's area it's going to continue to be discussed, for as long as history exists.
Get used to it.
If something is considered a landmark of it's area it's going to continue to be discussed, for as long as history exists.
Get used to it.
My thumbs are highly in the air. I just find it odd that the 'best game ever' of a series is usually the first one in 3D. Really odd that.gideonkain said: