Deus Ex GOTY edition for $2.50 on Steam. Worth it?
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We were just over this, DE1 was a not a shooter it was an RPG, and DE3 will be a shooter and much less an RPG.MacJack said:
So "better" comes down to preference, I don't think we need another shooter when half the released triple A titles are just that, but ofcourse it will make more money that way so they are going in that direction.
Nah. It didn't age well - you'll play it for about 9 minutes and realize games like Hitman and Spliter Cell did this better 5 years ago already
First I'd say yes get it, it's an excellent game, the only caveat I would add to that is buy it as an RPG not as a shooter. So far as I'm concerned the shooter component is fine but if you've grown up on modern action shooters you be be like "wtf?", remember this game is from before the modern shooter paradigm.
On the graphics: they're excellent... For the time, judge it by today's standards and you will be severely disapointed.
The RPG gameplay however is still just as superb as it always was, if you're a patient RPG fan the you have to get this game. If you're an adrenaline junkie graphics whore the not so much.
On the graphics: they're excellent... For the time, judge it by today's standards and you will be severely disapointed.
The RPG gameplay however is still just as superb as it always was, if you're a patient RPG fan the you have to get this game. If you're an adrenaline junkie graphics whore the not so much.
Actually,deus ex stopped being an rpg with the second game. In any case HR does not have and gun skills so you could pretty much say its combat is as shooting based as mass effect 2 if not more.Mr.K. said:
In the end there are games that did comabt well and those who suck at it, as much as i loved the first deus ex, the combat was balls. They could have made it less stupid bt not make the crosshair to take so long to become accurate. Wouldnt change the fact it was an rpg, you just would aim faster wihtout having to stand still for ages to manage to aim accuractly and still the crosshair wouldnt get super small and accurate at the first level of the skill.
If a chocolate that you're going to eat in a matter of minutes is worth $2.50 than of course Deus Ex is worth $2.50. What's up with these stupid topics lately? Did aliens land on Earth and preform brain lobotomy on 90% of gamers while I was away?
It's almost as if they wanted to present character skill progression like they usually do in RPG games.MacJack said:
Use this:
http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/index.htm
http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/index.htm
DX10 renderer which makes the game look way better. First levels are very boring looking, but it gets better after that! Especially the Honk Kong levels look awesome.
Go play it peepz
http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/index.htm
http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/index.htm
DX10 renderer which makes the game look way better. First levels are very boring looking, but it gets better after that! Especially the Honk Kong levels look awesome.
Go play it peepz
The second game didn't stop being an RPG - it just had less mechanics because it was dumbed down for XBox. Furthermore, in a previous post you said something about a lack of headshots in it. Did you actually play it? Because I swear I've gotten numerous headshot kills. Granted, not all headshots were insta-kill, but there was certainly a significant amount of damage caused in this case.MacJack said:
Deus Ex's combat was fine - if you invested points in certain weapon skills. That is what RPGs do. I see that you've made a CoD thread recently (and I'm by no means bashing you or CoD by bringing it up) and the impression I get from your posts even before I noticed it was that you're under some sort of impression all combat in all games has to be similar. I could be wrong about that, but you demonstrate minimal patience with the 'waiting to aim' part of Deus Ex early on in the game. If you have basic training with a handgun in real life, you don't go around 360 pistolwhipping people - you take your time and aim.
This type of combat actually requires some brains and some patience - going around spreading bullets with 100% accuracy would make you miss the atmosphere for starters, as well as negating the use for most augs, skills etc. Luckily, by the time you even have a chance to do this (assuming you get the skill points for it) you can be put down pretty easily. Deus Ex's combat was amazing - it rewarded you for acquiring skill points (and subsequently investing them in one or more of the areas of combat), and made you think about/plan how you're going to get past the next room full of enemies.
Don't get me wrong, I do like Call of Duty - but don't bash the combat in a game because you don't have the patience to use it. As previously stated, it's an RPG hybrid. This is pretty clear on the 'new game' screen where you're investing points in your starter skills. Play the game again, and focus on investing your skill points into the 'Weapons: Rifle' category or something - and then upgrade your weapons with a few accuracy mods and you'll have 100% accuracy.
You won't have a chance, of course - because those bots you couldn't disable due to investing all your points into rifles and none into computers? They have more bullets than you do. Seriously though, if I carry on from here, there's more elements to the combat than just shooting - such as disabling turrets and cameras to give you an easier time, but I feel I've made my point.
You failto distinguish between "bad" graphics and "old" graphics. This offends me. The graphics in deus ex are not bad they are just old... Just as in 15 years time when some snotty teenager tells you they can't play CoD black ops because the graphics are "debilitatingly bad" you will tell them that they are talking shit and the graphics are actually very good for the time, and in fact the graphics are merely old and not "bad".tthor said:
Why the distinction? Simply because there is such a thing as bad graphics, and they have nothing to do with the age of the game or era of technology; bad graphics are broken and not fit for purpose, we're talking bugs and poor optimisation as well as an inadequate level of fidelity for the aesthetic of the game and the capabilities of the engine.
Bad =\= old
Old =\= bad
Please people!
dude, i say they are debilitatingly bad because half the time i can hardly even figure out what the hell i'm looking at. "Old" graphics would be more like half-life or asteroids, where the graphics seem older but it doesn't hurt the experience all the great. but when I can hardly figure out what i'm looking at, then I will call the graphics bad. (and from what i read, people were complaining about Deus Ex's poor graphics even when it first came out)Continuity said:
if you want, you could compare old graphics to an old grandma playing sports. She may be bad at sports only because she is old, but that doesn't make her any less bad. (on the other hand, you could have a really active grandpa who kicks your ass at basketball every time.)