Developer: The Call Of Duty Engine is a "Porsche"

[idarkphoenixi]

They could at least change the HUD for fuck's sake, if you showed someone who's never seen Modern Warfare before footage from both MW2 and MW3 I bet they'd never see the difference.

For MW2 and Black Ops I honestly thought I was looking at a DLC package not an entirely new game.

The CoD engine is just a joke, I had no idea it was that old but it all makes sense now why every single game looks exactly alike except for updated pixels.

You can call it a Porsche is you want, but that doesn't stop it from being a rusted, broken down porsche lying in the middle of a junkyard.

 

[Daverson]

Originally a heavily modified Quake III engine (yes, that's the correct number of Is there)

That's a fail in both Roman Numerals (3 being the highest number composed entirely of Is) and ID Tech engine knowledge! (Quake IIII IV used the same engine as DooM III)

(It's not particularly impressive either - Source is written on top of the Quake I engine ^_^ )

 

[AWAR]

Ey, I get all the hate for CoD, but what's wrong with Porches?

 

[OCAdam]

I don't think the Porsche comparison works very well in all cases. Porsche overall probably fits better to the Source Engine (what with more massive updates, likened to new generations of 911s), while the Q3/MW engine is more like Porsche within a generation of a 911 (minor changes, but nothing real major).

Now, I await the game engine likened to a Radical!

 

[Michael Hirst]

Okay so the engine is easy to upgrade...doesn't mean the games are worth buying, I've been getting very similar experiences since COD4 and it isn't changing much so I'm still sitting this one out.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Oh, there's no denying that the CoD games are actually quite lovely to look at.

Now, if they spent that kind of time and effort on such things as "single-player gameplay", "weapon balance" and "anti-cheating" then I might actually buy a CoD game for more than $15 someday.

 

[Jegsimmons]

if the COD engine is a Porsche...then does that make Halo's and Frostbite and fucking cruise ships? and the source engine a classic hot rod with space flight capabilities?

Time for a bunch of morons to come on and hate CoD because it's CoD.

Let me fix that for you.

Time for a bunch of reasonable people to come on and hate CoD because it's bland, boring, un-innovative, contains unlikeable characters, has terrible AI by today's standards, looks the same as all the previous games, and is ran by the only game developers more evil than EA who actually TRY to make a good game with exception to sports titles.

There you go. All better.

 

[Jegsimmons]

Ey, I get all the hate for CoD, but what's wrong with Porches?

well in my experience you could buy a million dollar porche that isn't meant to be customized very much. Or you could buy and restore a classic hot rod thats MEANT to be tinkered with and restored to be the baddest mother fucker on the road. Not to mention classic hot rods and muscle cars are the few cars that can go UP in price because you mess with them.

yeah baby.....classic cars are the way to go.

 

[Korten12]

if the COD engine is a Porsche...then does that make Halo's and Frostbite and fucking cruise ships? and the source engine a classic hot rod with space flight capabilities?

Time for a bunch of morons to come on and hate CoD because it's CoD.

Let me fix that for you.

Time for a bunch of reasonable people to come on and hate CoD because it's bland, boring, un-innovative, contains unlikeable characters, has terrible AI by today's standards, looks the same as all the previous games, and is ran by the only game developers more evil than EA who actually TRY to make a good game with exception to sports titles.

There you go. All better.

I like how you make it out that all of those people are completely right and it isn't subjective.

 

[Josh123914]

This is why I hate CoD so much, the devs act like it's the most wonderful thing in the world and praise the engine and ''legacy'' and what not when (compared to most other shooters) it's fairly far behind in the graphical department (though in hindsight it may just be because of their grotesque need to get Activision that yearly $1 Billion).

But all the ''kewl'' kids in my year get it because of the superiority complex that comes with buying a game for £49.99 while there are much better games out there that give you a much better story and entertainment (see Mass Effect 2, Uncharted series and soon Skyrim) and it doesn't help that anything that doesn't involve 1 death per minute outside a cutscene is condemned to the ''GHEEEEEEEEEY'' pile in their mindset

/Minor rant over the 14 year olds of the fanbase aside.
Sledgehammer/ what's left of that mangled corpse that once was Infinity Ward you guys aren't allowed to get away with 4 hour long campaigns like, say, Valve can. Partly because Valve has spent the past 14 years making a good impression on gamers, spending more than 2 years on the game and being exceptionally generous to the fanbase. Compare that to yourselves:
Ripping off gamers.
DESTROYING and stagnating the ENTIRE shooter genre.
In general being complete a##holes to the community (I mean has Gabe Newell every stated he wanted to charge people extra for cutscenes? no? Kotick did. Has Valve ever charged £10 map packs in the past 2 years? no? Activision did. (in fact Valve's most recent DLC was FREE and added around a 1/5 extra to the co-op)).

P.S. That's something I love too, remember back in Christmas last year when games like AC:Brotherhood and Battlefield were going for something like £5.99, but CoD 4 (2 years old mind you) was still up at £39.99? I do, many laughs were had.

 

[Jegsimmons]

if the COD engine is a Porsche...then does that make Halo's and Frostbite and fucking cruise ships? and the source engine a classic hot rod with space flight capabilities?

Time for a bunch of morons to come on and hate CoD because it's CoD.

Let me fix that for you.

Time for a bunch of reasonable people to come on and hate CoD because it's bland, boring, un-innovative, contains unlikeable characters, has terrible AI by today's standards, looks the same as all the previous games, and is ran by the only game developers more evil than EA who actually TRY to make a good game with exception to sports titles.

There you go. All better.

I like how you make it out that all of those people are completely right and it isn't subjective.

i like how i don't care.

 

[Josh123914]

Double post.
Please remove.

 

[Josh123914]

Tell me about it man. You have no idea how many times I have had to defend COD from the hordes of ignorant motherfuckers flaming it for no reason. The ironic thing is, while flaming the 12 year old COD kiddies, they make themselves look exactly the same.

Sorry but do you actually spend 5 days a week with those flaming COD kiddies? No? Well I do, they are 14 and as ignorant as they are, I can't help but feel sorry for them (or more their parent's bank accounts since many of them are buying into that CoD Elite BS, in fact back last november I listened to one of them brag about how he went to GAME at the midnight launch with his mother (we're 14 by the way) sad times....) Besides there is a reason CoD and Halo and Battlefield and, well, shooters in general get this reaction for others of ''oh yeah, THEY aren't full of 12 year olds or anything /sarcasm'' it's because the vocal majority on those servers are, in fact, 12 year old kids. (I actually was trying to stop my little brother from asking my mother to get CoD for him a few weeks ago, for obvious reasons)

 

[stefman]

Give me enough changes to gameplay and content, and I don't give a damn what the game looks like.

exactly. case and point is rainbow six vegas 2. game looks like crap but it's a ton of fun to play. I just wish people wouldn't judge before they play, but CoD hate is hip now so i suppose it's like trying to stop a tidal wave with an umbrella.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

I didn't actually know they are using Quake 3's engine. Says a lot to me, because they must have tweaked a hell of a lot.

Also, could everyone try to remember what's more important. Graphics, or aesthetics.
CoD is trying to be a gritty shooter, not a game full of bright lights and whiteness everywhere.

Don't you miss the days when professionals, you know, TRIED to act professional?

Nope, definitely not. It's too boring to read otherwise.

 

[Korten12]

But all the ''kewl'' kids in my year get it because of the superiority complex

Oh the irony. You guys say this and then act like your superior for not buying it.

DESTROYING and stagnating the ENTIRE shooter genre.

I am sorry but how is Call of Duty doing this? What because it's popular and people copy it? Then isn't that the fault of other publishers copying them? How has call of Duty stagnated the Entire shooter genre? Has it told other publishers, "Copy me please!" No it hasn't.

Should we stop any shooter from getting popular out of fear of Destroying the Genre?

In general being complete a##holes to the community (I mean has Gabe Newell every stated he wanted to charge people extra for cutscenes? no? Kotick did. Has Valve ever charged £10 map packs in the past 2 years? no? Activision did. (in fact Valve's most recent DLC was FREE and added around a 1/5 extra to the co-op)).

Activision is talk but doesn't do any of those.

P.S. That's something I love too, remember back in Christmas last year when games like AC:Brotherhood and Battlefield were going for something like £5.99, but CoD 4 (2 years old mind you) was still up at £39.99? I do, many laughs were had.

You have a wierd sense of humor if you found that funny...

 

[Xan Krieger]

I still think the first modern warfare's graphics are pretty so graphics are not a problem. I think COD's problem now is the problem it had when it was a WW2 series, too many games set in one time period. That's one of the things that helped Modern Warfare stand out, it was a quality game set in a time period that wasn't flooded with other similar games.

 

[svenjl]

He went on to add that anyone who doesn't see the difference between Modern Warfare 3's and its predecessor has "no idea." "There is so much that we've added, so when someone says 'cut and paste', I don't even want to talk to them because they don't know," he said. "They just don't know."

Don't you miss the days when professionals, you know, TRIED to act professional?

How about looking forward to the day when gamers stop acting like know-it-all dickheads...or EA stops being pricks about their Porsche license re Forza...or Scarlett Johanssen comes up to my place for coffee.

 

[Heeman89]

Now I'm not going to claim to be an expert in the field of graphics design and I try to be as unbiased as possible but even if they are using a retooled engine it still has a fair amount of graphical similarities to the previous games in the series and (in my opinion) in today's gaming market when you have engines like Cry Engine 3 and Frostbite 2, and what they can do with those engines it maybe time to start thinking about replacing that engine with something new. I can see how people who work at these companies might be a little upset that people are claiming its the same as before but unfortunately that is the way it is, with graphic engines being changed and updated so fast if its behind...its behind. This engine I think is starting to show its age a little and maybe needs to have a nice "retirement" hell I don't think it will hurt for money or anything (yes that was lame, trying to lighten the mood)

exactly. case and point is rainbow six vegas 2. game looks like crap but it's a ton of fun to play.

Didn't think the graphics were THAT bad on Vegas 2, not perfect but not crap

 

[Fai57]

In general being complete a##holes to the community (I mean has Gabe Newell every stated he wanted to charge people extra for cutscenes? no? Kotick did. Has Valve ever charged £10 map packs in the past 2 years? no? Activision did. (in fact Valve's most recent DLC was FREE and added around a 1/5 extra to the co-op)).

Activision is talk but doesn't do any of those.

I'm pretty sure you're mistaken there.