Diablo 2 & You: Why you should play the Classic
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Day 1 Bonemancer here (built one first time I laid eyes on the game years ago).
I only play non-battlenet for giggles really.
Currently mucking about with a ThrowBarbie.
It's such a shame that even with all the synergies and stuff a Pikazon is still an invalid build. Same goes for Titan quest, somehow these games always include spear skills but when it comes down to it it's an inferior choice.
I only play non-battlenet for giggles really.
Currently mucking about with a ThrowBarbie.
It's such a shame that even with all the synergies and stuff a Pikazon is still an invalid build. Same goes for Titan quest, somehow these games always include spear skills but when it comes down to it it's an inferior choice.
The realization is that the Spear, as a weapon, only works in formation fighting or mounted combat. It's too large to be useful in CQC. The only viable pike options in Diablo 2 are Chargadins, Were-Druids, or Whirlwind Barbarians. I have made successful versions of each. The Pikazon just blows all the time, though.Vortigar post=326.68080.623494 said:
Yeah, Diablo 2 was good times. Too bad I think it's gonna be the high point of the series. Im seriously concerned about the way Blizzard is handling the development of D3. And for-god-sakes give me some better characters than the Barbarian (again) and the witch doctor (basically the bastard son of a nerco and a druid).
Well... I loved Necromancers and Druids and remember much rivalry between necros and druids (for fun) on the Diabloii.net forums. Oh great times during my high school years of forum pranks and jokes, lol.Goenitz post=326.68080.624213 said:
Necro + Druid = Win, to me. So there is someone.
Your praise for D2 is resounded in my first two years playing the game, and then my first and last ten minutes after taking a long break from it.
The game stops being exciting without a great community and I'm afraid all of my friends have moved on. Pubbing and endless PvP's get boring, especially when I have a foolproof (muahaha) Barb strategy.
And dude, I started out with a Frenzied Barbarian as the ultimate punish0r of d00m. Leap Attack-Frenzy-Whirlwind-Whirlwind-Frenzy-win is how most things go. Try it. It's easy.
A Concentrated Barbarian was easily my second build and he turned out fine as well. Same sequence: Leap Attack-Concentration-Berserk-Concentration-Whirlwind-pwned.
Always specialized in swords; this is extremely useful as it always gives the possibility of carrying a shield, dual-wielding, or two-handing.
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My Boned Necromancer (dirty bastard; likes it up the arse) did it all in PvP except against Amazons. Those cunts.
The game stops being exciting without a great community and I'm afraid all of my friends have moved on. Pubbing and endless PvP's get boring, especially when I have a foolproof (muahaha) Barb strategy.
And dude, I started out with a Frenzied Barbarian as the ultimate punish0r of d00m. Leap Attack-Frenzy-Whirlwind-Whirlwind-Frenzy-win is how most things go. Try it. It's easy.
A Concentrated Barbarian was easily my second build and he turned out fine as well. Same sequence: Leap Attack-Concentration-Berserk-Concentration-Whirlwind-pwned.
Always specialized in swords; this is extremely useful as it always gives the possibility of carrying a shield, dual-wielding, or two-handing.
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My Boned Necromancer (dirty bastard; likes it up the arse) did it all in PvP except against Amazons. Those cunts.
Kiko, thanks to a bug with minions (revives) and teleport, I could make my commandomancer immune to all sorcs and trap assassins because of the stack order upon teleporting. Plus, with all the skeletons, I could pretty much rock anyone that didn't use focus attacks.
Also, my Werewolf Druid has about 25K+ AR, 10k+ Health, but only about 1K damage. It didn't matter, though, because I used the life tap gloves (and didn't care) + a 4 Shael'd Set Caduceus which gave me an incredible attack speed. I buffed up my run/walk charms and got loads of life charms and had awesome war cry gear to get me the most health. I could easily chase down sorcs that teleported and killed many with... you guessed it, block/hit lock. Best of all, he was STUPID cheap to make.
I loved coming up with kookie builds that destroyed awesome geared people with silly tactics
I cannot wait for that pleasure again in Diablo 3. I just hope they realize if they make runewords, they either need to squash duping flat or just make the runes drop a lot more to make it fair to everyone. I think at the end game at higher levels, the items should be a bit easier to get to make the PvMers happy and make the PVP grounds about skills and tactics and less about gear.
Also, my Werewolf Druid has about 25K+ AR, 10k+ Health, but only about 1K damage. It didn't matter, though, because I used the life tap gloves (and didn't care) + a 4 Shael'd Set Caduceus which gave me an incredible attack speed. I buffed up my run/walk charms and got loads of life charms and had awesome war cry gear to get me the most health. I could easily chase down sorcs that teleported and killed many with... you guessed it, block/hit lock. Best of all, he was STUPID cheap to make.
I loved coming up with kookie builds that destroyed awesome geared people with silly tactics
I cannot wait for that pleasure again in Diablo 3. I just hope they realize if they make runewords, they either need to squash duping flat or just make the runes drop a lot more to make it fair to everyone. I think at the end game at higher levels, the items should be a bit easier to get to make the PvMers happy and make the PVP grounds about skills and tactics and less about gear.
D3 is definitely a game I'm waiting for. I'll meet you on the field?TheKbob post=326.68080.627694 said:I loved coming up with kookie builds that destroyed awesome geared people with silly tactics
... I think at the end game at higher levels, the items should be a bit easier to get to make the PvMers happy and make the PVP grounds about skills and tactics and less about gear.
I agree about the gear thing. I had a Salvation/Defiance Smitadin who had decked out armor and was seriously hard to hit for most cases, and survived most Sorc's easily. I used Charge a lot to get in close quickly. Of course, block-rate had to be maxed out. Since Smite ignored defense and was fast as hell, he was extremely successful; plus Pally shields are practically weapons tailored for that build, with naturally high block rate. While that's cool, it made my easy-to-build Paladin poonage in a box. Too successful, some might say. He was the answer to Amazons that my Necro never had
On the Bonemancer, I don't think it was patched, that if you clicked on the very edge of the screen AT the person with Bone Spirit (the homing one), they have a chance to be invisible to the other person due to some coding issue, which could be a way to get those annyoing amazons... They tend to stand and shoot when they think they don't have to move
My werewolf has the exact opposite problem: I do a shitload of damage, but not much else (Roughly 10k AR and 3-4k life).TheKbob said:Also, my Werewolf Druid has about 25K+ AR, 10k+ Health, but only about 1K damage. It didn't matter, though, because I used the life tap gloves (and didn't care) + a 4 Shael'd Set Caduceus which gave me an incredible attack speed. I buffed up my run/walk charms and got loads of life charms and had awesome war cry gear to get me the most health. I could easily chase down sorcs that teleported and killed many with... you guessed it, block/hit lock. Best of all, he was STUPID cheap to make.
I loved coming up with kookie builds that destroyed awesome geared people with silly tactics
Anyway, It is indeed a great game, the only problem I see with it is the monsters that are "Immune to X." This game should be easily playable and beatable by any single character if they wish to play alone, and the "Immune to Physical" monsters, while rare, are crippling to most non-funded physical-damage-based characters. I think if they want to make the game challenging, Blizzard should make Diablo 3's monsters have more resistance to general damage, but throw out immunities completely.
Diablo 2 is like the flu to me, every year or two it just pops back into my life and i start over again. Autum last year I had my latest infection but maybe i will feel the neet for the game another rime before 3 is unleashed.
One thing about diablo that might just be a personal preference but i say no other game of the genere (Titan Quest, Sacred and many others) don't get that awsome killnoise when you mow through your enemys. it is just a !thud! noise and the loot droping noises ading to it but even with a level 1 club wilding Druid it is such a satisfing thing. Every other game lacks of it and so it dosn't feel right and after the second goblin that "just" died you wish to be playing Diablo 2 instead.
One thing about diablo that might just be a personal preference but i say no other game of the genere (Titan Quest, Sacred and many others) don't get that awsome killnoise when you mow through your enemys. it is just a !thud! noise and the loot droping noises ading to it but even with a level 1 club wilding Druid it is such a satisfing thing. Every other game lacks of it and so it dosn't feel right and after the second goblin that "just" died you wish to be playing Diablo 2 instead.
I think these immunities where a genious idea. Sure i spend a lot of time cursing it but that idea made the game that much more chalenging. In hell you just had to be creative, rely on your friends or raise a mercinary. Its just awsome how you get to be an epic hero capable of slaugthering hundreds in seconds with powerfull spells and than to be shown your limitations in such a drastic way. I played all sorceress types once and they were probably the class to suffer most but so you had to be flexible. Newer games just make such mistakes of a boring difficulti curve; Sure they get to be darn difficult but all you need to do is to get better in what you already can do fine instead of truely adopting to a new chalenge.Enigmers said:
Exactly the same as Baal runs, but with a unique named mob called Pindleskin that has a really high treasure value (and hence good drops) but is quicker and easier to kill.
Loved all the Diablo games and expansions so far. I much prefer Battle.net to single player. Nice article, i just got my bonemancer to hell mode. Still looking for Trang-Oul's Guise though.
