I could make a large post describing all the changes and improvements as I see them, but only if you want me to. I'm losing my patience with the anti-TOR crowd on the Escapist, to be honest, and I'm worried that you're a little too firmly seated in that camp if you think these low-level (and unfinished, I might add--this is an older build) quest conversations are the only changes.bob1052 said:
I'm currently halfway down and aside from a larger emphasis on class quests (not unique, just a greater emphasis) absolutely nothing so far seems unique in the slightest. If you want to try and find something and post it go ahead.rsvp42 said:
Whine, whine, whine. There's dialogue where there has been none; what more do you want? Do you honestly think that they're going to shell out for the best possible voice acting available for all the dialogue in a bloody MMO? Ooh! I know! Let's get Bethesda to have individual voice actors for all their hundreds of random NPCs!HellspawnCandy said:
They have four classes. They have 3 specs. They are making respeccing a pain in the arse, but including dual spec. Combat is "action based", exactly like the flood of MMOs on the market.rsvp42 said:
I've read that list before and while it does sound mind blowing and all that, the combat is far more important than the little details in that huge list. That's why everyone is clutching onto the combat, that will be 90% of the gameplay. I hope the combat is amazing and if it is, the little details will truly let the game shine and it will probably be better than any other mmo out there.rsvp42 said:
Player ships, 17 different worlds (that aren't Azeroth), 8 class stories, 16 advanced classes, companions, crew skills, light-side/dark-side alignment, choices in quests, divergent storylines, PvP with useful tanks and everyone isn't one-shotted, flashpoints with stories and boss mechanics that aren't all tank-n-spank, a sci-fi setting and aesthetic... I'm just not sure what else needs to be different to make this not a clone.bob1052 said:
Exactly. WoW made talking to NPCs meaningless by putting it all in a quest box and giving no incentive to read it (fun fact, there isn't even an option for slow quest text anymore). It's a good thing that TOR is actually making it significant again.toughguyjoe said:
Rail shooters and the ability to select what world to fast travel to on a starmap. WoW also does these rail shooters.rsvp42 said:
WoW has years of content behind it. If they make a large number of worlds, they will be smaller and the amount of content will balance out.rsvp42 said:
Class specific quests are nothing new, but they seem to be expanding on it beyond what WoW has done so that is one thing.rsvp42 said:
Hardly advanced classes. They are just glorified specializations:rsvp42 said:
WoW has pets too.rsvp42 said:
Automating crafting. It is about as hands on to the experience as training your assassins was in Brotherhood, you select them in a menu, tell them to do something, and then you don't hear from them until they are done and waiting for you in the menu again.rsvp42 said:
See "choices in quests"rsvp42 said:
As is the nature of MMOs, you cannot single handedly change the world. As such every choice given to you will either:rsvp42 said:
Considering this is a multiplayer experience, that just means that finding people to play with will be a pain because your friend may be on a different branch and therefore doing something completely unrelated.rsvp42 said:
A lot of things off with that statement. WoW has long since passed the one shot fest it was once, and it also has tanks.rsvp42 said:
Raids in WoW are definitely not tank-n-spank anymore, and haven't been in a long timersvp42 said:
WoW has had a medieval-sci-fi crossover already.rsvp42 said:
Why bother focusing on all those supposed differences?
I stopped playing WoW halfway through Wrath because I can't stand it. My previous statements about its quality still stand.toughguyjoe said:
Notice I didn't mention the space combat. The player shipss are still different. You don't have a personal base of operation in WoW or a crew.bob1052 said:
Except they're not small or insignificant. All this money is going somewhere and having a whole lot of content is a big part of it.bob1052 said:
lol, I've gone over this so many times in so many ways on the forums:bob1052 said:
They're more than pets.bob1052 said:
Awesome. I'm a hero in TOR, not a pants-maker.bob1052 said:
But they stay consistent within your character, which is what matters. You won't see a character you killed showing up later in the story. You can't really change Shepard's destiny in Mass Effect, but the choices still add depth.bob1052 said:
Except that you can group up and do pretty much all content together.bob1052 said:
Think WAR's PvP, but with better balance. Except we don't know what the balance is yet, but we hope.bob1052 said:
Flashpoints aren't raids. They're like instances and even low level ones have interesting mechanics from what has been reported.bob1052 said:
Pseudo sci-fi and steampunk. Doesn't really whet my sci-fi appetite, to be honest.bob1052 said:
Notice he said fighting AND questing. Questing includes story, which is their biggest focus.bob1052 said:
The SWTOR class abilities are in the big list you linked, where the "Classes" section is.rsvp42 said:
Umm, those are saying the exact same thing. Read again.bob1052 said:
Because re-rolling is more attractive in a game with unique stories that have multiple paths, compared to a game like Rift where re-rolling provides largely the same experience.bob1052 said:
Yeah, what's this about "leaked" footage? The game has already been revealed in a very playable state. We know already what it looks like and how it plays.ZeroMachine said: