that's just stupid. so what they're trying to say is that throughout the rest of the game the other characters aren't talking/interacting with squall? they're just having a lovely wee chat amoungst themselves? ....oooook
Well not exactly.... remember in the end of Disk one when he gets struck by a Ice shard in the chest? Thats the moment he died (let me tell you here this is a heavy theory going on trough the FF community and that makes perfect sense to the context, bringing sad news to those who love the game and tears to those who loved our dear protagonist).flaming_squirrel said:Woaaah, wait, what? When does that happen?TitanAtlas said:Final Fantasy 8 was Awesome... till i discovered in Disk 2 Squall was Dead all Along!!!
He was still alive even at the very end if my memory serves me correctly...
i didn't believe the idea at first but after reading this i feel stupid for having never seen it in the first place. Amazing! Thank you!RevRaptor said:Naw they is saying that the last half of the game is squalls death coma, as he dies slowly.
http://squallsdead.com/
personally I think they are over analysing things a bit too much.
http://www.esotericarticles.com/Final_Fantasy_8_Ending_Analysis.html
this is the version of events I choose to believe.
I believe at the end of disk one it is Ultimecia's screwing with time that ends up saving Squall and also explains the game getting weird at that point. Time and reality are being messed with and are mailable. I think Rinoa's desire to save him saved him just as it did at the end of the game.
Could not have said it better myself. I found Memoria quite interesting as well (wouldn't call it my favorite level ever, but still pretty high ranking). I also hear a ton of flack towards Necron, but I completed everything, paid attention to all the lore and what was going on by the time I beat it the first time, and I didn't question his inclusion at the end-game; it just made sense that a "destroyer of worlds" type being would appear when the planet's life source and guardian was destroyed.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:I could go on and on about how Square got so much right with it... but I'll stick with just two points:
1) Memoria is the best final level ever. Actually, fuck that, it's the best level ever. Never have I seen an art department so brilliantly display their talents, nor seen level design that tied into the story, and the very themes, of the game so well.
2) Pre-emptive post for a point that I just know is going to get brought up.
If you pay attention during the last level, it is made clear that Kuja has gone to destroy the crystal at the centre of the universe. This crystal is what keeps the universe going so, in essence, Kuja wants to destroy the universe.
Now, when you fight Kuja, pay attention to what happens at the end of the battle: you don't beat him. Kuja wins. How so? Because as a last act, he casts Ultima which clearly wipes out both your party, himself, and the crystal that's spinning behind him. You lose the boss battle, and Kuja destroys the Universe, if only technically.
How does this Necron tie into this? Because he is FFIX's version of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, all rolled into one. The crystal is destroyed, your characters are killed, and wake up at the gates of oblivion, where Necron is getting ready to roll out and destroy everything. He even says so himself: "I exist to return life to the zero world". As Necron puts it, all life exists merely to seek death. His function is to enable that and, freed by the crystal's destruction, he plans to do so. The final battle is essentially your party trying to stop Armageddon from taking place which, considering how the game is a meditation on how life is always worth living, is pretty apt.
Is this theory supported by Square? Actually, no. Their own Ultimania has a different account of what Necron is. The trouble is that the Ultimania article is a) written years after the game, by people not involved with it, and b) completely balls. Don't listen to it, and instead consider the theory in the spoiler tags. I believe it thoroughly explains where Necron comes from, his role in the game, and how he ties into the themes of the game. Which is more than the bloody Ultimania does...