dieing 15 year old boy want's weird last request

[lizards]

Odd all I did was hit the "quote" button.

Browser glitch probably. I'm to tired to investigate it further.[/quote]

found it:

The only thing he was cheated out of was long life. If he left anything behind it would have been forgotten or unnoticed. No one thought any less of him for what he did, all of his friends and family where fine with it. Hell, the doctors and nurses were even cheering for him to fulfill his wish.
So I'm wondering why the Hell some kid who has mere months to live should give a fuck what some moralfag in another country would care about him afer he'd died?
Idk about you, but when I die, I want to die happy. You can go ahead and leave behind some speech about charity and love and peace, but it won't happen.
At least his wish was realistic.
He did what he wanted and I'm glad for it.[/quote]

this is what i posted about this:

poor brother im glad they were able to make it come true im lucky im good lucking and good with women it just kind of makes me feel bad when a kid is going to die without ever knowing what its like or when you see a loser that wants that girl across the room but cant even talk to her

it just kind of reminds you that you are a very lucky person and that many people arent so lucky and that you may complain about getting a parking ticket or whatever but their is so many things that other people go through without ever having getting to do the things that many people including me take this for granted

hm very odd even odder is the fact that i got a quote message from it....

EDIT: it didnt quote him for some reason but it was some guy named stalker cheif or somthing

 

[hippo24]

The first list isn't exactly possible for someone who has months to live is it? You don't think he wanted to do that with his life? Do you think he wanted to be cheated the way he was and decide whether or not to die a virgin as a sexually mature human being?

Well I'd hardly consider loosing ones virginity to a whore, as an act of "Sexual maturity".

My point was, that for all the "atta boys" and seals of approval he was getting. The boy's final request pales in comparison to many things in life.

I was illustrating that loosing your virginity to a jaded prostitute that you've never seen before that day and has "done" it with countless guys, pales in comparison to the higher pleasures in life. Many people fail to realize that this kid missed the mark.

Its reasonable to say that he could have done something meaningful, and left this world with more than just his own self-interest. From asking for a way to thank his parents, who obviously had to work hard just to keep him alive. To donating his money to a cause that fights whats killing him. He could have even asked for something that might save another's life, like offering up any functioning organs (he obviously was healthy enough for sex so something must be salvageable).

Its worse than the many kids who are younger than him who wish for WOW accounts and Micheal Jordan. At least those have some form of meaning because your able to do what you love with those that love you. It has more to it than just primal gratification.
Thrusting your hips against something until your brain says stop, is no different than taking a drug. Its not like the sex hes having has any meaning to it, that whore is not his lover, he has no real attachment. Its just sexual release.

He was given the choice to have his wishes honored, he could worked toward true happiness in his or another persons life.
He asked for meaningless sex.

All I'm trying to say is that, why I don't abhor this scenario, nor do I think it was wrong for them to honor his wish, I do however think that the boy was making a mistake in asking for something so shallow.

So instead of leaving behind a meaning or a gift, he left behind his self-worth and a news story about it.

he was sexually mature, meaning he is able to produce offspring and had the hormones to create the instinct to want it.

its easy to be 'moral' when you have your life ahead of you and expect an important rite of passage to just happen in its own due course. He didn't have the luxury of time, and while I'm disappointed it was a hooker, the story said he didn't have any girlfriends or female friends. I'm also a little annoyed that a person who hasn't suffered what he has seems to be acting a little self-righteous and saying he lost his self worth for wanting to be a normal human being for a night in his short, hospital bound life.

You don't deserve to judge him like that.

Yet you get to judge me?
How very odd...

You claim I'm on a "moral high horse", when your riding right beside me.
My arguments aren't with the actual physical child, just his decision.
I'm not saying this kid was bad, I'm not saying that hes the worst thing since WWI, I'm not even saying that I'm much better. All I'm saying is that his final decision was less than I would have expected from a person his age.

And by loosing his "self worth", I'm speaking in relative terms. He could have done something that positively impacted others, he could have done something to impact the world before he left, but in the end he wished for sex, he got sex, the end.
He had the ability to do something great, but he didn't.
So all he left behind was sadness in his parents hearts, a hole in his parents wallet, and a news story about how he went behind the law and had sex.
Its for that reason I debate, not because I have some vendetta against the kid, but because his life was cut short, and his final decision was devoid of even the smallest attempt to fill that crevice.

I honestly cant say what my exact reaction would be if I were him. Id hope I would stay true to my morality, Id hope that Id be sted fast when under that specific weight.
But Ive been mighty close to deaths door a few times, and I did what I thought I would.

 

[Cavouku]

I don't agree, but it's done, and there's nothing wrong with wanting it. I think it's abusing the last wish thing just a smidge, but... hey, that's what the last wish is.

I probably wouldn't have asked for that, but hey, some people, it's all they want. I can think of so many better things, but for him, that was probably the best.

I don't think the hooker should be charged, and we should all drop the subject, he's dead. I'm not sure what we're discussing, was it right? Not really, but it wasn't horribly wrong. Just... out of the norm, I guess.

Oh well, he rubbed the magic lamp.

 

[Spleenbag]

And by loosing his "self worth", I'm speaking in relative terms. He could have done something that positively impacted others, he could have done something to impact the world before he left, but in the end he wished for sex, he got sex, the end.
He had the ability to do something great, but he didn't.
So all he left behind was sadness in his parents hearts, a hole in his parents wallet, and a news story about how he went behind the law and had sex.

I'm not going to pass judgment on you or anyone else, but I'd like to know exactly what this kid could have done as a last wish that would fulfill your definition of "something great"? We've got to be reasonable; just because he asks for, say, donating loads of money to charity or something along those lines, doesn't mean it's going to happen with the resources available.

 

[tucci]

It's a shame the kid had to die, but even worse was that most of his life was spent in a hospital, and he didn't get to experience a lot of things we take for granted day to day. So he thought of a typical thing screaming in most 15 year olds and decided to fill the urge to mate. Then he died, now leaving a stain on his parents reputation and a lawsuit against the hospital. Honestly i still don't see whats the point, the poor kid is dead. Can't we just leave it at that

 

[awsome117]

Doesn't really seem "weird"(other than the fact it was a hooker of course) that a teen boy wants sex.

Oh well. If it were me to decide, I would at least try to find someone better(although, finding a non-hooker to have sex with a teen boy would be very hard to find).

Anyway, a wish is a wish. Just hoped he enjoyed it.

 

[HotShooter]

I think it was a perfectly reasonable request. If you are going to die, any material possesions or events he could have taken instead would be totally useless since you can't take things with you into the void. All the people who caused this event to take place were doing what most people would do for a dying person, make them as comfortable as possible before they go.And the legal issue of a minor who had sex isn't THAT bad because it has become common for teens to have sex as a minor, and they aren't even dying.

 

[captain thunder pants]

awsome last request

 

[avantguardian]

This happens often, and anyone against this is insane.

Who decided to respond after only reading half of the opening post and not the 16 pages of babble after it? Me. I suck. Also, self-deprecating ftw.

 

[HeyZeus_Ezekiel_Jesus]

So when can we expect to find out about your trial for some crime you're committed... I'm guessing downloading MP3s or burning CDs/DVDs might be a good start... A crime is a crime after all

First off, by "downloading MP3s" I assume you mean pirating MP3s as there are pay services for getting MP3s. Secondly, it's not illegal to make a copy of a CD you own. It's illegal to sell/buy that burned copy.

 

[scotth266]

This was done by his friends, not by his parents or the hospital staff. So in the end, there isn't a real dilemma.

 

[MicrosoftPaysMe]

well... if it was his last wish, why not?

Yea I mean thats what my last request would be

 

[Bealzibob]

I'm 15 and if i were to die tommorow I think my wish would be to first get laid, then get absolutely shit faced, eat some shrooms and jump out of a plane to the sounds of Yin's piano... I've talked to friends about this before and a large amount of them choose the same think this bloke did. Of course there are a few things better than his choice, things like watching ones children grow up and climbimg Mount Everest but He didn't have the time obviously =]

 

[space_oddity]

Sex without the emotional connection is worthless.

Why does it have to be worth anything?
Look, i can see alot of people are objecting to your viewpoint in this thread, so im sure we can agree that we both see sex (and the point of life) differently.

As far as i am concerned, we all die alone, nothing you ever do or acheive will last forever so you might aswell squeeze all the joy you can out of life. Sex is a beautiful, free (usually) and easy thing to do to make the world a better place, if only for a moment and if only for two people.

What the world needs now, is love, sweet love, its the only thing that there's just too little of.

 

[Ninja_X]

Sex without the emotional connection is worthless.

Why does it have to be worth anything?
Look, i can see alot of people are objecting to your viewpoint in this thread, so im sure we can agree that we both see sex (and the point of life) differently.

As far as i am concerned, we all die alone, nothing you ever do or acheive will last forever so you might aswell squeeze all the joy you can out of life. Sex is a beautiful, free (usually) and easy thing to do to make the world a better place, if only for a moment and if only for two people.

What the world needs now, is love, sweet love, its the only thing that there's just too little of.

Can we agree to disagree?

I have to really love the girl and know her for a long time before we do it. I say there are more important things to experience.

Also I till maintain that I think it was a dumb thing to do even as a last request.

 

[space_oddity]

Sex without the emotional connection is worthless.

Why does it have to be worth anything?
Look, i can see alot of people are objecting to your viewpoint in this thread, so im sure we can agree that we both see sex (and the point of life) differently.

As far as i am concerned, we all die alone, nothing you ever do or acheive will last forever so you might aswell squeeze all the joy you can out of life. Sex is a beautiful, free (usually) and easy thing to do to make the world a better place, if only for a moment and if only for two people.

What the world needs now, is love, sweet love, its the only thing that there's just too little of.

Can we agree to disagree?

I have to really love the girl and know her for a long time before we do it. I say there are more important things to experience.

Also I till maintain that I think it was a dumb thing to do even as a last request.

I can certainly agree to disagree.
Out of curiosity though, what are these more important things to experience?

 

[Damien_B]

The first list isn't exactly possible for someone who has months to live is it? You don't think he wanted to do that with his life? Do you think he wanted to be cheated the way he was and decide whether or not to die a virgin as a sexually mature human being?

Well I'd hardly consider loosing ones virginity to a whore, as an act of "Sexual maturity".

My point was, that for all the "atta boys" and seals of approval he was getting. The boy's final request pales in comparison to many things in life.

I was illustrating that loosing your virginity to a jaded prostitute that you've never seen before that day and has "done" it with countless guys, pales in comparison to the higher pleasures in life. Many people fail to realize that this kid missed the mark.

Its reasonable to say that he could have done something meaningful, and left this world with more than just his own self-interest. From asking for a way to thank his parents, who obviously had to work hard just to keep him alive. To donating his money to a cause that fights whats killing him. He could have even asked for something that might save another's life, like offering up any functioning organs (he obviously was healthy enough for sex so something must be salvageable).

Its worse than the many kids who are younger than him who wish for WOW accounts and Micheal Jordan. At least those have some form of meaning because your able to do what you love with those that love you. It has more to it than just primal gratification.
Thrusting your hips against something until your brain says stop, is no different than taking a drug. Its not like the sex hes having has any meaning to it, that whore is not his lover, he has no real attachment. Its just sexual release.

He was given the choice to have his wishes honored, he could worked toward true happiness in his or another persons life.
He asked for meaningless sex.

All I'm trying to say is that, why I don't abhor this scenario, nor do I think it was wrong for them to honor his wish, I do however think that the boy was making a mistake in asking for something so shallow.

So instead of leaving behind a meaning or a gift, he left behind his self-worth and a news story about it.

he was sexually mature, meaning he is able to produce offspring and had the hormones to create the instinct to want it.

its easy to be 'moral' when you have your life ahead of you and expect an important rite of passage to just happen in its own due course. He didn't have the luxury of time, and while I'm disappointed it was a hooker, the story said he didn't have any girlfriends or female friends. I'm also a little annoyed that a person who hasn't suffered what he has seems to be acting a little self-righteous and saying he lost his self worth for wanting to be a normal human being for a night in his short, hospital bound life.

You don't deserve to judge him like that.

Yet you get to judge me?
How very odd...

You claim I'm on a "moral high horse", when your riding right beside me.
My arguments aren't with the actual physical child, just his decision.
I'm not saying this kid was bad, I'm not saying that hes the worst thing since WWI, I'm not even saying that I'm much better. All I'm saying is that his final decision was less than I would have expected from a person his age.

And by loosing his "self worth", I'm speaking in relative terms. He could have done something that positively impacted others, he could have done something to impact the world before he left, but in the end he wished for sex, he got sex, the end.
He had the ability to do something great, but he didn't.
So all he left behind was sadness in his parents hearts, a hole in his parents wallet, and a news story about how he went behind the law and had sex.
Its for that reason I debate, not because I have some vendetta against the kid, but because his life was cut short, and his final decision was devoid of even the smallest attempt to fill that crevice.

I honestly cant say what my exact reaction would be if I were him. Id hope I would stay true to my morality, Id hope that Id be sted fast when under that specific weight.
But Ive been mighty close to deaths door a few times, and I did what I thought I would.

Were you never a normal fifteen year old?

 

[Christemo]

odd last will, i must say, but hey, its his last, how could they deny it without feeling bad about emselves the next few years.

 

[GrimFandango92]

I think thats totally resonable I mean sex and love are big parts of life, and to live and die without experienceing it is just....wrong, but thats my piece