Disabled Girl Dating Sim Katawa Shoujo Finally Available

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Uliana

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Calling Katawa Shoujo a "Dating Sim" is one of the most fundamentally inaccurate descriptions of it I've ever seen, and really quite unfair to it and others of the same genre. There's a reason these games are known as -Visual Novels-, with emphasis on "Novel". Anyone who has read a Choose Your Own Adventure (CYOA) book would know that Visual Novels are identical in concept, except that the medium is electronic, and you click instead of flip pages (I'd say VN's have images to match, but I remember the CYOA books have images too). It's really no different from reading a romantic story book written by, say Nicholas Sparks, except if his books was a CYOA with built-in music.

All stories revolve around the fact that they have a specific setting for them, no matter what you do. Why wasn't the Illiad set in modern day Europe with fighter jets and nuclear weapons, or why isn't Pride and Prejudice set in the Stone Age, or why is X-Men a story about mutants instead of a story about normal people? Katawa Shoujo isn't any different from its story being set in a school for the disabled. But as the story itself shows, there's a very good reason why it's done so. If Katawa Shoujo wasn't about crippled people, its entire story would fall apart quite easily, such is how well crafted its story is (weak as it is in some of the routes).

People here say the girls aren't defined by their disabilities, but I think that's a misstatement. No, the girls aren't all about their "defects" (the term Hisao, the main character uses), but it's hard to imagine the girls being anything without their defects. However, their conditions complement and shape their personality in ways that are both logical and not overbearing, they accentuate their person rather than define it (ex. Lilly is precise and careful, not just because she's blind, but because she was once in a strict Catholic all-girls school). And KS goes to show the practical effects of each disability, while at the same time showing that these characters do not use their disabilities as excuses not to be the best they can be - Shizune is a deaf-mute requiring her friend Misha to translate everything she says, yet is a highly dynamic student council president, Lilly is blind yet inquisitive and kind, Rin has no arms yet is a painter and artist etc... These are very fleshed-out personalities, despite being born out of stereotypes, and not at all exploitative or demeaning. I've seen more thought put into this game on the treatment and perception of people with disabilities than in many other mainstream media I've seen. The game makes a very good point: while people with disabilities will always have needs that non-disabled do not have, they are people like you and me first and foremost, and their disabilities will only be a big deal if you let yourself think it is.

The main controversy of this entire piece though is that this game has sex scenes. And yes there are sex scenes, that is indisputable. However, there is an option to turn them off, and the majority of them are tasteful examples, and not particularly glorifying, nor fetishisizing - in fact, most of the scenes give minimum focus on the particular disabilities at all. The conditions are only covered in the sex scenes when they logically have to, rather than being the centerpiece. And for most of the routes except one, you can actually cut out all of the sex scenes and still have a 100% complete story. Even with that sole exception though (which occurs in my personal favorite route), the sex is used as part of the story in a bittersweet manner that appeals more to the heart than to the crotch, and which is used as the springboard for much emotionally heartbreaking character development. In fact, if anyone were to get into Katawa Shoujo thinking to use it as a "fapping tool", it would be very difficult to do so. No, not because the girls are disfigured or have disabilities, but because by the time you get to those scenes (once you finish 75% of the game) you've come to know and respect the characters so much that the sex scenes feel entirely unnecessary, a feeling the story supports.

What strikes me the most about the game though is how much people with actual disabilities can relate to at least one aspect of either the story or a character. For me, it was Hanako's route, about the shy introverted girl with scars covering half her body. I was diagnosed with autism at a very young age, and though I had lots of support to overcome it it's hard not to have shreds of introversion. While my condition is different from the aforementioned character's, reading through Hanako's story was like looking at a mirror of my past self, of my thoughts and actions on how I was as an introvert, right down to her exact line, "I... don't like people, so I don't mind not having many friends.", words I have said at one time or another. And I've heard of testimony from a lot of others with at least a form of disability or know someone with disabilities who've played the game, and agree with the sentiment: there is much in this story that's relateable.

Objectively, Katawa Shoujo isn't something that I'd call a "Masterpiece" by any stretch due to a couple of slips in the story writing, but the fact that it has made me laugh, cry, and most of all think is something I would not attribute to something made simply for "cripple porn fetishists". This is a labor of love, not lust.

Finally, this game was not made in Japan despite the origin being Japanese art. This game was made by an grassroots international team who simply take inspiration from their love of anime and manga.
 

omega 616

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I think it's good the game was made, why not make a dating sim about disabled people?

The thing that weirds me out is the people who are going to buy it, do people go out looking for love IRL and it just happens to be with a disabled person or do they go out with the intent of getting a disabled person?

The same as will people just buy this game for teh lolz or what?
 

Alterego-X

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omega 616 said:
I think it's good the game was made, why not make a dating sim about disabled people?

The thing that weirds me out is the people who are going to buy it, do people go out looking for love IRL and it just happens to be with a disabled person or do they go out with the intent of getting a disabled person?

The same as will people just buy this game for teh lolz or what?
It's free, no one buys it. And most of the fans who were waiting for it are general visual novel fans, who are interested in that the writers can do with this particular setting.
 

Cliche

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After playing the whole way through one of the routes, it becomes clear that this game is definitely not porn.
In fact, the more physically intimate moments in the route I played seemed to be handled rather...awkwardly, and you can tell that the authors weren't entirely comfortable with having to write them in at all.

omega 616 said:
The thing that weirds me out is the people who are going to buy it, do people go out looking for love IRL and it just happens to be with a disabled person or do they go out with the intent of getting a disabled person?
Unfortunate as it may sound, 'dating sims' don't train you to become better at dating.
 

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Interestingly the idea for this game came from a quip in a doujinshi by the character designer of Valkyria Chronicles
 

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Colinmac93 said:
People were actually waiting for something like this? Dating sims always came across as creepy and stupid to me, but this one is just taking the piss.

Edit: Actually, I wanna know why all of the physically disabled people are all in the one class. I bet there's some strange reason for that in the game.
From the description it seems to be that the main character attends a school for the physically disabled because of his heart condition.
 

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omega 616 said:
The thing that weirds me out is the people who are going to buy it, do people go out looking for love IRL and it just happens to be with a disabled person or do they go out with the intent of getting a disabled person?
It's a linear written story, not a simulation. It has a word count of 400.000, almost as much as the Lord of the Rings trilogy. It's a romantic novel about a boy with a heart condition, trying to fit into this school for disabled students, and falling in love. It is pretty hyped among people who are interested in a serious, unique romantic story.
 

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darkmind35 said:
[color="900,0,0"]Visual Novel =/= Dating Sim[/color], come on are you guys even trying? While the two may overlap (a VN might have dating sim elements or vice versa) they're entirely different things. Let's get this straight:

Visual novels are distinguished from other game types by their extremely minimal gameplay. Typically the majority of player interaction is limited to clicking to keep the text, graphics and sound moving (most recent games offer 'play' or 'fast-forward' toggles that make even this unnecessary).

Most visual novels have multiple storylines and many endings; the gameplay mechanic in these cases typically consists of intermittent multiple-choice decision points, where the player selects a direction in which to take the game. This style of gameplay has been compared to the Choose Your Own Adventure books. Most, however, strive for a higher level of plot and character depth than the aforementioned series of interactive children's books. These can be more closely compared to story-driven interactive fiction. While the plots and storytelling of mainstream video games is often criticized, many fans of visual novels hold them up as exceptions and identify this as a strong point of the genre.
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Pic: Remember11

In a typical dating sim, the player controls a male avatar surrounded by female characters. The gameplay involves conversing with a selection of girls, attempting to increase their internal "love meter" through correct choices of dialogue. The game lasts for a fixed period of game time, such as one month or three years. When the game ends, the player either loses the game if he failed to properly win over any of the girls, or "finishes" one of the girls, often by having sex with her, marrying her, and/or achieving eternal love. This gives the games more replay value, since the player can focus on a different girl each time, trying to get a different ending.

Dating sims such as Tokimeki Memorial often revolve almost entirely around relationship-building, usually featuring complex character interactions and branching dialogue trees, and often presenting the player's possible responses word-for-word as the player character would say them. Dating sims such as Tokimeki Memorial, and some relationship-based role-playing games such as Shin Megami Tensei: Persona, often give choices that have a different number of associated "mood points" which influence a player character's relationship and future conversations with a non-player character. These games often feature a day-night cycle with a time scheduling system that provides context and relevance to character interactions, allowing players to choose when and if to interact with certain characters, which in turn influences their responses during later conversations.http://oi44.tinypic.com/mx0xs7.jpg
Pic: Love Plus

The difference is that a visual novel is mostly a linear story with choice points that influence the outcome and dating sims are statistic based dating games that repeat the same formula over and over again. Going by these definitions, something like Dragon Age or Mass Effect has more dating sim elements than Katawa Shoujo has.
It amazes me how many people get this wrong. One would assume that the names of the genres speak for themselves, i.e. dating sims being actual simulations of dating and visual novels being, well, lots of stuff to read with visual context.
 

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OmniscientOstrich said:
Imperator_DK said:
I'll help you!

With romancing the pigeons [http://vndb.org/v7836], that is.
0_0 I...I don't even...that's a joke right? That's not actually real...is it?
It's both, really.

It's a real game, but "Bird's love" would be an obvious parody of the "Boy's love" romance games sold in Japan to women and gay men.

You really can find the strangest things when it comes to visual novels, but then there's also something like Katawa Shoujo (or this other game [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_108/1315-Heart-wrenching-Hentai] The Escapist reported on), which is by all accounts a quality story (regardless of the pornography implemented in, or at least attached to it).
 

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Imperator_DK said:
It's both, really. It's a real game, but "Bird's love" would be an obvious parody of the "Boy's love" romance games sold in Japan to women and gay men.
Ohhhh, right, it's a yoai pardoy, yeah I see what they did thar. :3

Imperator_DK said:
You really can find the strangest things when it comes to visual novels, but then there's also something like Katawa Shoujo (or this other game [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_108/1315-Heart-wrenching-Hentai] The Escapist reported on), which is by all accounts a quality story (regardless of the pornography implemented in, or at least attached to it).
Hmm, so it's more a story with porn, then a porn with story in a sense? (If you couldn't tell already, I'm rather unfamiliar with the subject matter, beyond the odd reference/jibe in something like Lucky Star XD) But yeah, strange is definately the word.
 

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OmniscientOstrich said:
Hmm, so it's more a story with porn, then a porn with story in a sense? (If you couldn't tell already, I'm rather unfamiliar with the subject matter, beyond the odd reference/jibe in something like Lucky Star XD) But yeah, strange is definately the word.
Definitely. It's about 99% plot, 1% porn. And that's not an exaggeration, maybe it's an even lower rate. There is basically less sex than in an average Hollywood movie, except that when there is, it happens to be more graphic.

Just try out this one, it's free anyways. The first hour of the story gives a pretty good idea about it's style.
 

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My friend convinced me to download the game about a few hours before this was posted XD
I'm not a huge dating sim fanatic, but honestly it's a lot more like a book with illustrations than a video game. To top it off, the backgrounds are FREAKING AMAZING. I honestly thought some of them were pictures till I looked really close to my screen to see the brushstrokes. Plus, its a really well written story. I'd definetly recommend this to anyone in need of something new to read, and you can always turn the adult content filter on if that's not (given that it often isn't) your thing.
 

Gigano

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OmniscientOstrich said:
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Hmm, so it's more a story with porn, then a porn with story in a sense? (If you couldn't tell already, I'm rather unfamiliar with the subject matter, beyond the odd reference/jibe in something like Lucky Star XD)
Yep. And if it's like most other quality visual novels (at least those of them which feature explicit content, which far from all visual novels do), then it'll be 99,9 % story, and 0,01 % porn.

...not that explicit erotic depictions need be merely "porn", they can have plenty of artistic merit to them, and be an integrated part of the story. But when solely/also aimed at arousal, then there's of course also a "porn" aspect to it. And most games which feature sex do seem to have that purpose as well in doing so (not sure about Katawa Shoujo though).
 

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rhodo said:
You guys have no idea how the way you defend dating syms by stressing on calling them "visual novels" has me utterly amused. Well, I also pity you a bit, but I'm mostly amused. XD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_sim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_novel

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DatingSim
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VisualNovel
 

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Downloaded it and read through (not really "played" seeing as its a visual novel) a couple of the stories. There's definitely substance there - they obviously put a lot of effort into making it.
 

CarlMin

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This is probably, regardless of the motivation, the worst, most clusmy and insensitive way to handle this issue imaginable.