Disappointed by Assassin's Creed?

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HazelrahFiver

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Woodsey said:
Well, Revelations isn't set in Italy, and this is the last game with Ezio and Altair.

And to be fair, Rome was by far the most impressive environment so far.
I'm not sure they said it would be the last game with Altair. I think he's relevant in some way through out the entire series. I'd bet actually that all the people Desmond ends up reliving come around now and again (however many that turns out to be). However, if we don't get to play Altair in AC:R, which I'd bet we do, I would still enjoy another game with him. Not his trip to Constantinople obviously, but perhaps wherever he goes next.
 

HazelrahFiver

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I.N.producer said:
I bet in Revelations, he will be struggling with his age and end up with a heroic sacrifice. It would be a fairly fitting end for him.
Aww I couldn't disagree with this more. Ezio has never been one of sacrifice. In fact, a better end for him would be to have the enemy believe him dead while he escapes and perhaps takes up residence with Sforza, living out his days in hiding, fooling around with the handmaidens and such ;)

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AlAaraaf74

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AC: Altair in the Holy Land
AC2: Ezio in Italy
ACBroHood:...Ezio in Italy
ACRev: ...Ezio... in the Holy Land.......
AC whatever title: Probably Ezio again.

I'm getting sick of Ezio's screen time. I actually prefered Altair...
 

DanielBrown

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No, I think they improve with each game.
That said; I think it's well over due that they retire Ezio and start exploring other eras of time. I like him, but I thought they were making a one ancestor per game kind of thing. Would've been much cooler.
 

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Assassin's Creed 2 was like a marathon in the right direction-- the plot, setting, characters, gameplay, pacing, progression, atmosphere, music, and engagement were all given significant improvements over the first one (and that isn't to say the first one sucked).

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood felt like one step forward and then three steps backward. To me they just tired out the characters, dragged-on the story, and added a bunch of features that frankly made the game a lot less awesome.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Revelations. I just want them to be f***ing done with Ezio and Altair already, but I'm really hoping Ubisoft Montreal doesn't disappoint here.
 

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Although I do think its pretty substandard to be releasing games with such a similar gameplay and setting just with new gimmicks every year is pretty unacceptable, you have to give Ubisoft points for its excuse which went something along the lines of: "The game [AC 3] is set in 2012, so that's when we'll release it"
 

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ZeroMachine said:
Nope.

In fact, I thought Brotherhood was the best. And I'm really looking forward to Revelations. I love it.

As has been said many many many many many times, after Revelations, we'll be going to a new time and character.

To say that they didn't put effort in to these games is an insult. They actually do improve upon and add to the formula, as well as the story and characters.
This sums it up quite nicely. :)
 

cheese_wizington

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Yeah, no.

Ezio's story was always meant to be a trilogy, and Revelations explains an enormous amount of the plot of the entire series.

As I like to say, Ubisoft can make a better game in one year than Infinity Ward can in two.
 

Nieroshai

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Nope. And to inform you, Revelations isn't going to be in Italy. As far as I remember, Ezio is going to Ottoman Empire-controlled Constantinople. Soo it's Ezio in the near-middle-east. Same guy, different setting entirely.
 

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I wouldn't mind playing as Ezio for three games if he was a remotely interesting individual. No matter how refined the gampeplay is, Ubisoft's rehashing of Jason Statham in a period piece doesn't satisfy me on a narrative level.
 

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HazelrahFiver said:
Woodsey said:
Well, Revelations isn't set in Italy, and this is the last game with Ezio and Altair.

And to be fair, Rome was by far the most impressive environment so far.
I'm not sure they said it would be the last game with Altair. I think he's relevant in some way through out the entire series. I'd bet actually that all the people Desmond ends up reliving come around now and again (however many that turns out to be). However, if we don't get to play Altair in AC:R, which I'd bet we do, I would still enjoy another game with him. Not his trip to Constantinople obviously, but perhaps wherever he goes next.
Its the last game you play him, he may be featured in some capacity later on.
 

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I am okay with the games being set in Italy, what I don't like however is how all of the games go batshit crazy by the end of them. In brotherhood, after I *Spoilers* met Minerva, Mario just acted all normal. It ruined my immersion.
 

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I'm a bit disappointed with it too. I thought that this series would be an awesome time-travelling assassin thing, with the Desmond storyline being an excuse to go and visit a bunch of hugely different and interesting times, but instead we're stuck with an Ezio trilogy.

The Middle East, and then Renaissance Italy, both of which were fantastic. Then we got another Renaissance Italy game, and now we're getting a Renaissance period Ottoman empire. Thankfully that means that we'll get different architecture and culture, at least, but I was hoping for Feudal Japan, London, Paris, China, Ancient Rome - or just something different that you don't often see in video games.

Come to that, the Ottoman empire isn't half bad. It's cool, unique, it rarely shows up in video games or even popular culture, and it is very different. I guess I'm just bored of Ezio, and annoyed by Brotherhood.
 

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Hides His Eyes said:
I'm wondering if anyone else is as disappointed as I am by the route the AC series seems to be taking. When the second one came out and I learned it was the same idea set in a later time period, I got very excited and spent probably a little too much time and energy thinking about the historical periods I'd like to see in future installments, like a housewife dreamily leafing through the Argos catalogue. My favourite was Assassin's Creed in Victorian England. How cool would that be?

But the series seems to have got stuck in Renaissance Italy. The last two games were more akin to what would have been called expansion packs back when I first started playing games. To be fair I haven't played Brotherhood very much or Revelations at all, so I may well be wrong about SOME of this, but it seems to be mostly the same gameplay, mostly the same experience; worst of all, they are squandering the potential I got so excited about (see above). I guess the series has reached the point where its latest game can sell shitloads PURELY by virtue of being Assassin's Creed, so the developers feel free not to put in much effort. I think it's lazy and it sucks.
ACB was basically what people wanted. People liked Ezio and wanted more of him. ACRev isn't even out yet, is it? Aside from an attempt to merge all the story so far, which isn't really "stuck" anywhere, it's not out yet.

Besides, their next planned move was Desmond in the future. There was no plan for Victorian England. You know what might make that happen, though?

The current direction you are decrying. Now that it's become a major franchise, we might actually see that kind of expansion. Once they close the open arcs, which people seem to want.
 

nokori3byo

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No.

The AC games has shown consistent improvement over the last two iterations and they always hold my attention from beginning to end.
 

Hides His Eyes

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Beliyal said:
Hell yeah, I'd like to explore Ancient Greece or Victorian England, but I understand that the current story has no reason to go there, as of now
Sorry, but this just doesn't make sense. The game's original potential, as I see it, was that each installment could do the same cool concept at a new point in history. That premise must have come before the ins and outs of the story. My problem is that that story has been dragged out into multiple games instead of being kept tight and lucid and serving the original premise.

Anyway, interesting responses. I may have been a little harsh on Brotherhood and Revelations, but I still can't help feeling cheated. And to those people who claim Brotherhood is a proper sequel and not what would have been called an expansion pack, I can only assume you're too young to remember what games were like in those days. Consider the difference between Half-Life: Opposing Force and Half-Life 2, or Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark and Neverwinter Nights 2.

I'm glad to hear AC3 will be a new setting and character.
 

TheTim

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i think the creed games have gotten better, and i think revelations is going to be the best yet.
 

Hides His Eyes

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dashiz94 said:
Hides His Eyes said:
I'm wondering if anyone else is as disappointed as I am by the route the AC series seems to be taking. When the second one came out and I learned it was the same idea set in a later time period, I got very excited and spent probably a little too much time and energy thinking about the historical periods I'd like to see in future installments, like a housewife dreamily leafing through the Argos catalogue. My favourite was Assassin's Creed in Victorian England. How cool would that be?

But the series seems to have got stuck in Renaissance Italy. The last two games were more akin to what would have been called expansion packs back when I first started playing games. To be fair I haven't played Brotherhood very much or Revelations at all, so I may well be wrong about SOME of this, but it seems to be mostly the same gameplay, mostly the same experience; worst of all, they are squandering the potential I got so excited about (see above). I guess the series has reached the point where its latest game can sell shitloads PURELY by virtue of being Assassin's Creed, so the developers feel free not to put in much effort. I think it's lazy and it sucks.
If there's anything you can fault the AC development team for, it's NOT putting in a lack of effort. I know this is an opinion, but really, if you're saying that the developers are half-assing it than you're just being mean for the sake of being mean. I have enjoyed all aspects of the series so far. The story is still well written between the historical/modern period, the gameplay has the same fundamental core but always has new tweaks and changes to it that make it better, and as said previously the attention to detail and the way the AC team brings the time periods to life is something that I rarely see in other games.

The team has stated multiple times that this is the LAST game with Ezio in it, after this it's going to be a new protagonist and time period. I actually admire what they did. The team recognized that they needed to make three games to fully tie up all loose threads rather than just throw out an unrelated new protagonist and say "What? You expected closure? Here's some guards, go stab their neck or something you mindless SHEEP."
You're missing the point. The developers could have written the story however they wanted. It didn't HAVE to get stuck in Italy following Ezio around, that was not set in stone. They could have written it so that the Renaissance Italy part fitted into one game. And that's what they should have done, in my opinion, instead of dragging it out into three because they know the fans will pay for them all. They are not restricted by the story that THEY ARE MAKING UP, that's ridiculous.

And I agree they put a lot of effort into building the first two games, no doubt, and in fact that's why it bothers me that Brotherhood basically re-used everything they had built for AC2, and that they tried to pass it off as a completely new game and not what it was: a glorified expansion pack. I'm glad to hear Revelations moves to a new location, but it doesn't excuse the practice of dragging one game into three and selling each one at full price. In my humble opinion.
 

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I think it's too bad the developers decided to stick with Ezio for three whole games. Don't get me wrong, I love his character and I love the games, but... I had hoped Revelations to have a new character in a new time period.

For what it's worth, I just want the next game to be set in Paris during the Revolution and to play a female Assassin.